PC Minutes 2004-07-061
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CALL TO ORDER - The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session
with Chair Guthrie presiding; also present were Commissioners Arnold, Brown and
Fowler; Commissioner Keen was absent. Staff members in attendance were
Community Development Director, Rob Strong, Associate Planner, Kelly Heffernon, and
Planning Intern, Andrea Koch.
AGENDA REVIEW: No Changes
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: No Minutes.
I.A. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
III. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
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JULY 6, 2004 - 6:00 P.M.
B. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
1. Fax received July 6, 2004 from Dennis Law, Andre, Morris & Buttery, re proposed
GPA 04 -002 for Noyes Road property (Public Hearing Item III.A.)
II.A. MINOR USE PERMITS APPROVED SINCE JUNE 29, 2004 - SUBJECT TO 10-
DAY APPEAL:
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The Commission had no concerns. Mr. Strong stated the Minor Use Permits would be
approved after a ten -day appeal period.
A. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT CASE NO. 04 -002; APPLICANT — CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE; LOCATION — NOYES ROAD. Staff report prepared and
presented by Associate Planner, Teresa McClish.
Mr. Strong presented the staff report, Ms. McClish being absent. He explained that the
Commission were to review a City Council initiated General Plan Amendment (GPA) to
consider change of land use designation from Conservation /Open Space and Single
Family Residential -Low Density Planned Development to Conservation /Open Space
and Single Family Residential -Very Low Density Planned Development, affecting
approximately fifty three (53) acres at the northwest edge of the City on Noyes Road.
He then stated the highlights of the report; stated that this GPA would cause a reduction
in the maximum number of units allowed from 35 to 21; the pre - application had not yet
been submitted to the Commission, but had been reviewed by the Staff Advisory
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Committee; on July 19, 2001 the Commission recommended on a 3/2 vote for
Conservation /Open Space on this parcel (for one dwelling unit per parcel).
Mr. Strong answered Commission questions re the staff report.
Chair Guthrie opened the hearing to the pubic.
Dennis Law, Attorney representing Castlerock, addressed the contents of the letter he
had submitted to the Commission stating that it appeared that the proposed action had
come from their submittal to the City of a preliminary application for Tract 2651 (a 35
residential unit).
Chair Guthrie closed the hearing to public comment.
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Condensed Commission Comments:
Brown:
• He had no problem moving forward with the amendment as discussed given the
information and his previous vote (which was for a lower density).
Fowler:
• Stated this was a perfect place for clustered development as it was in an area with
the same density and a road was available. She had voted against the open
space designation before and would not vote for a change now.
Arnold:
• He could vote for 21 units as long as they were in a clustered type development
(as 35 was too high).
Guthrie:
• He did vote for lower density before and even though things may have changed
this parcel was a long way from public services; he could support a change in the
GPA for the 21 units.
Commissioner Brown made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Arnold to amend the
General Plan Land Use from Conservation /Open Space and Single Family Residential -
Low Density Planned Development to Conservation /Open Space and Single Family -
Very low Density Planned Development for an approximate 53 -acre property located on
the south side of Noyes Road at the northwest edge of the City Limits owned by ASCG
and Sandstone Holding Corporations with an amendment to:
• Include a clustered planned development of a maximum density up to 21 units.
AYES: Commissioners Brown, Arnold and Chair Guthrie
NOES: Commissioner Fowler
ABSENT: Commissioner Keen
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V. NON PUBLIC HEARINGS:
A. TIME EXTENSION CASE NO. 04 -005; APPLICANT — RICHARD
BLANKENBURG; LOCATION — 1052 E. GRAND AVENUE. Staff report prepared
and presented by Planning Intern, Andrea Koch.
Ms. Koch stated this was a one -year time extension for a Lot Line Adjustment and a
Conditional Use Permit. The time extension is being requested for the project because
Condition No. 8 has not yet been satisfied due to a delay caused by the City.
Commissioner Brown made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Arnold approving the
one -year time extension for Conditional Use Permit 02 -003 and Lot Line Adjustment 02-
001. The motion was approved on a 4/0 roll call vote, Commissioner Keen being
absent.
The applicant for the next project was not present so the Commission heard Discussion
Item V. next.
V. DISCUSSION ITEM
1. Amendment to Tract 2328, Stonecrest, Drainage. and Access Driveway Grading
and improvement Plans: S & S Homes and Howard Mankins
Mr. Strong presented the staff report and explained that five of the 26 homes under
construction include a private road easement potentially providing access to two
adjoining Multiple Family zoned, undeveloped parcels owned by Howard Mankins; a
condition was included that stated the project access road should be designed to allow
future extension to these undeveloped parcels with two -way traffic along the easement.
Howard Mankins is now pursuing, drainage and access driveway grading and
improvements to enable construction of this future extension (staff agree that this
should be pursued now). Mr. Strong then further explained the road easements, slope
bank, grading, drainage and ditch involved in the improvements.
In conclusion, Mr. Strong stated that negotiations are continuing, but any change to the
approved tract would require City approval; the houses close to the roadway are
nearing completion and if the grading is not accomplished before they are sold there is
potential for misunderstanding between buyers and S & S Homes. S & S Homes and
Howard Mankins are not ready to submit grading plans to the City, but the City would
like to get this accomplished by Oct 1, 2004.
Mr. Strong answered Commission questions.
Chair Guthrie opened the hearing to the public.
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Mr. Mankins, 200 Hillcrest Drive, stated they had owned this 50 -foot easement for 25 -30
years and a condition had been included for Stonecrest to assure that a two -way access
easement to his property would be included, but S & S homes had been allowed to build
for one -way traffic. In conclusion, Mr. Mankins stated that a proposed revised plan be
submitted for the 50 foot easement (except for one area which was on his property) so
the curb and gutter would not have to be torn up, and that he be allowed to extend the
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utility while the road is being torn up; that he have controlled access and that the buyers
be notified of the drainage and easement (prefer a recorded document) and the revised
plan be brought to the Commission for approval.
Mr. Strong answered further questions from the Commission.
Mr. Strong recommended that the revised grading and drainage concept be approved
by the Commission and reported to City Council.
Chair Guthrie closed the hearing to the public.
Commission Comments;
Arnold:
• Encouraged the two parties to come to an agreement.
Guthrie:
• He could agree to approve the change in grading and some reasonable
accommodation be made to extend any utilities that would interrupt the quiet
enjoyment of the homeowners.
The Commission agreed to approve the changes if they come forward.
B. PRE - APPLICATION REVIEW CASE NO. 04 -011; APPLICANT — RUSS
SHEPPEL; LOCATION — OAK PARK AND JAMES WAY. Staff report prepared
and presented by Associate Planner, Kelly Heffernon.
Ms. Heffernon gave an overview of the proposal for a phased Mixed -Use Planned Unit
Development composed of residential units added to existing offices and fitness club
uses; stated that the parking arrangement does not fit current parking standards; there
will be an entrance only on the Kennedy side and exit only on the Sheppel side
(creating a looped driveway) and is subject to continuing monitoring that will be re-
evaluated in February 2005.
Victor Devens, Public Works, added the following comments for Commission
consideration:
• Existing utilities would have to be relocated.
• The present wastewater line from this project (County collection line) is at
capacity; the City should not grant occupancy until a relief line in place (could be
one to two years); there are other projects already approved not yet connected to
this line.
• Traffic report would be required.
Although this was not a public hearing Chair Guthrie opened the discussion for public
comment.
Kim Hatch, Pults & Associates, handed out site plans and answered some of the
Commissioners concerns; stated the applicant would like an interpretation from the
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Commission on the "top of bank" issue so they could decide how to move forward with
the project.
Chair Guthrie closed the public discussion portion.
Commission Comments:
Arnold:
• He would have a hard time assessing this project until the entry and exits have
been determined if they will work or not.
• Need to see cross - sections of how top of bank would work.
• He had a concern with regard to traffic on the four units closest to James Way,
but he did not have a problem with the concept of residential use at this location.
Fowler:
• Agreed with Commissioner Arnold on the parking issue.
• Creek issue— should be site specific.
• Parking not resolved and not yet working.
• A viable project — she liked how it overlooks the creek.
Brown
• Parking is a big issue and he would not approve deviations unless they were
clearly justified.
• The top of bank issue would also affect other properties and he would like to
have further confirmation from other sources on this.
Guthrie:
• Liked idea of residential fronting the creek.
• He would have concern for residents as the commercial flows all the way through
this site.
• He was fairly comfortable with the "top of bank" issue.
• Had concerns about how parking would be controlled.
• Does not think the exit only will work.
• He liked the carports.
• Some concerns about the office space in this project (displacing needed
employee parking).
Mr. Hatch stated originally they had looked at commercial development for this site and
the residential seemed to be a better solution to relieve parking; they do want to develop
the land and next time will bring a full package for the Commission to review.
VI. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS:
Commissioner Brown will be absent the next two Commission meetings.
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VII. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND FOLLOW -UP:
None
VIII. TENTATIVE AGENDA ITEMS FOR JULY 20, 2004 MEETING: No discussion
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IX. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 8:15 p.m. on a motion by Commissioner Brown,
seconded by Commissioner Fowler.
ATTEST:
AS TO CONTENT:
.s-
L'YN REARDON- SMITH,
SECRETARY TO THE COMMISSION
ROB STRONG,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
(Approved at PC meeting of July 20, 2004)
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J MES GUTHRIE, CHAIR
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