PC Minutes 1994-09-20ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 20, 1994
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairperson Keen
presiding. Present are Commissioners Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny and Hatchett. Planning
Director Doreen Liberto - Blanck and Current Planner Scott Spierling are in attendance.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
On a motion by Commissioner Carr, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and unanimously carried,
the minutes of September 6, 1994 were approved.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
1 1'UBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 92 -495, ANNUAL
REVIEW UNION OFFICE AND TRAINING CLASSROOM, 117 POOLE STREET,
APPLICANT IS CARPENTER'S UNION LOCAL #1800,
Current Planner Spierling gave a summary on this item to the Commissioners, pointing out
reasons for the annual review, the status thus far, and apprising them of the three options for
them to consider.
Chairperson Keen opened the public hearing and as no one from the audience wished to speak,
he closed the public hearing.
After a brief discussion, on a motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Carr,
and unanimously carried, to accept option 1 which approved the annual review and made the
next annual review a non - public hearing.
PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 94 -524, VARIANCE
CASE NO. 94 -186, AND PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM CASE NO. 94 -114 FOR
CONSTRUCTION OF A 2300 SQUARE FOOT MINI -MART AND GAS STATION WITH
A 900 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE AT 525 TRAFFIC WAY, APPLICANT IS KHATCHIK
II. ACHADJIAN
Using the overhead projector and referring to posted blueprints of the project, Current Planner
Spierling gave a thorough report of this project to the Commission. He discussed items such
as parking, traffic, mini -mart design, canopy structure, landscaping, and signage. Current
Planner Spierling concluded his presentation by referring to a letter from Alan Hanson, which
was sent to the Planning Department, and subsequently distributed to the Commissioners.
Chairperson Keen opened the public hearing, inviting the applicant to speak first.
Tony Orefice of RIM Architects, representing the applicant, stated that Current Planner
Spierling had done a great job presenting this item, and he had nothing to add. He did speak
briefly regarding the signs. He ended by stating that the conditions were well written and his
client was ready to accept then.
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Jim McGillis, San Luis Engineering, also representing the applicant, discussed a few items of
concern. The first was regarding the traffic mitigation fees and credit provided because this site
was previously a gas station. The next item Mr. McGillis discussed was the agreement to use
the strip of land that will be behind the new sidewalk, pointing out that Mr. Achadjian planned
to landscape this area.
Mr. McGillis passed out information to the Commissioners regarding the location of the
driveway and using the overhead projector pointed out reasons why the planned location was
chosen. Commissioners questioned the space allowed around the pumps, lighting in back of the
mini mart, rest room locations, and lighting in the back of the parking lot near residents.
Khatchik Achadjian, applicant, came forward to discuss the rest rooms, giving reasons why they
are outside, rather than inside the mini mart. Staff was asked to clarify this item and Current
Planner Spierling stated that the Development Code indicated that the service station shall
provide rest rooms that are accessible to the general public during all hours that the service
station is open to the public; therefore, if the mini mart was closed certain hours and the service
station was still open, the doors to the rest rooms would have to be outside.
Melvin Johnson spoke, stating that he and his wife owned the property at 535 Traffic Way
known as the Vagabond Mobile Home Park. He asked where the gas tanks were located and
Chairperson Keen responded that they were shown to be at the back of the property, which was
adjacent to the mobile home park. Current Planner Spierling pointed out that they were ten feet
back from that property. Mr. Johnson questioned the amount of vehicles that would be
generated . Mr. Achadjian, responded that at this time there was no way of knowing.
Mr. Johnson said that in talking to the residents of the mobile home park, they were generally
enthusiastic about the project and had confidence in Mr. Achadjian, but there were some
concerns. One of these is that it will be open 24 hours, and there are at least four mobile spaces
within 30 feet of the wall at the back of the project. Mr. Johnson stated that in the 20 years
they have owned and operated the mobile home park, when the previous gas station was open
24 hours, the residents had been subjected to loud radios, squealing tires, car doors slamming
and so forth. He pointed out that these noises are much louder at 2 a.m. than in the afternoon.
The last concern he stated were the lights that would shine into the park.
Mr. Johnson handed out a signed petition dated September 20, 1994 stating:
1. The operation should not be open 24 hours. It should be closed at a reasonable time
compatible with the sleeping of the residents of the Park.
2. The ten (10) foot wide planting area around the Gas Station should be installed.
3. The height of the existing block wall should be increased to six(6) feet.
4. The main sign should be installed at the north end of the lot, encased in wood, and kept
as low as possible.
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Commissioner Carr asked Mr. Johnson about the vacant space south of the proposed site. Mr.
Johnson stated except for the first 10 -15 feet it did belong to him. Commissioner Carr asked
if it would be a problem if the landscaping was less than 10 feet along that side to which Mr.
Johnson's response was not in agreement to lessening this 10 feet. Mr. Johnson brought up the
back part of the property and its problems.
Jim McGillis spoke in response describing the height of the wall and landscaping they planned
to alleviate some of the potential problems of the lighting.
Marlene Johnson, 535 Traffic Way, said she had talked with the residents of the mobile home
park, who were in favor of the project. However, there were some concerns she wanted to
present for them. One concern is that the bells on the pumps would be noisy at night. Mrs.
Johnson said the people closest to the park were concerned about the lights. She also said that
one man was concerned about the type of landscaping, which might be a place the homeless
would stay. Mrs. Johnson stated her concerns about the type of trees that would be planted, as
some are messy in dropping leaves or fruits. She continued regarding the narrowing of Traffic
Way to the side street as indicated on the plans would make that turn very difficult, stating that
it was difficult even now. Mrs. Johnson said that she was pleased about the wall being planned
adjacent to the side property as many people used that for their dogs. She mentioned the sign
and would prefer it be placed lower and in a better location on the site, but said it would help
to encase it in wood like the ARCO sign.
Chairperson Keen advised Mrs. Johnson that the intersection reconfiguration she spoke of was
a condition of approval put on the project based on a traffic study.
Current Planner Spierling responded to some of the concerns mentioned by the audience.
Regarding the number of vehicles visiting the site, a nationwide survey indicated about 3,000
per day and 190 during the peak hour which is probably somewhere between 4 P.M. and 6 P.M.
He responded credit for past use would be given when calculating traffic fees. Current Planner
Spierling said that the City ordinance states that at the highest point the wall cannot be more than
six feet high; therefore if the applicant wants to increase the height to over six feet, the applicant
would have to either go through a variance or a minor exception. He indicated that the 10 foot
planted strip on the south side was a Code requirement. To reduce would require a variance.
Current Planner Spierling said that there was a condition of approval requiring that the pole be
encased in wood and that the sign frame be painted to match the building, as was done with
ARCO. Regarding the security in the back of the building, he responded that the Police
Department carefully checked into this and another light has been added, although there are no
cameras required.
Khatchik Achadjian then addressed some of the concerns mentioned. One of these was the
parking in the back to go to the mini -mart at night. Mr. Achadjian stated that his experience
has been that most of the customers park at the pump and walk into the Mini Mart. He stated
that he would cooperate in any way on the trees. Mr. Achadjian also stated he was not aware
of the problems with the dogs and would be glad to work with the Johnsons to alleviate this
problem and any other concerns they had. Mr. Achadjian ended by extending his appreciation
to the Scott Spierling for all his assistance.
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Jim McGillis said that from a traffic engineering viewpoint, the new design of the intersection
would be safer. He stated that if the Commission wanted to refer the no parking curb to the
Traffic Commission, the applicant would support that.
Chairperson Keen asked John Wallace, Acting Public Works Director, his opinion of the corner
design. Mr. Wallace stated the road is being narrowed about two feet, which is unusual, but
the reason is to line up with the other curbs and make the width uniform. He further stated that
the bulb -out did make more of a right turn, which is a safer turn. Mr. Wallace said that they
liked the new design and recommended it. Commissioner Carr asked Mr. Wallace what his
opinion was on red curbing that corner and his response was to wait and see.
Marlene Johnson said when people pull up to the stop sign on the corner and it was difficult to
see the stop sign. Mrs. Johnson asked Current Planner Spierling if it was possible to add a
trellis with plants on the top of the wall. Current Planner Spierling responded that the trellis
was not workable, but that the applicant could go through a minor exception process to raise the
wall to eight feet.
Jim McGillis approached the Commission on a personal basis stating that he has been a member
of this community for 35 years, owned a house at 238 West Branch, which is right behind the
applicant's Shell station, and lived there for three years. During that time the station was open
24 hours and he was never disturbed.
Commissioner Tappan asked Mr. Orifice about the hours the mini -mart was expected to be open.
Mr. Orifice stated that they could not determine that at this time; it would depend upon the
needs of the consumer. Commissioner Tappan inquired about the use of the second story of the
mini -mart and Mr. Achadjian responded that it would be his office. Mr. Achadjian said that he
would prefer not to operate 24 hours because it is the most expensive and least productive time
for the business. However, when you sign a lease with a major oil company, 24 hours is
required.
With no further comments from the audience, Chairperson Keen closed the public hearing.
Discussion was then held among the Commissioners of the items brought out during the public
hearing such as the canopy, lighting, wall height, delivery times, landscaping, signage, and so
forth. Planning Director Liberto - Blanck mentioned that the landscaping could be lessened by
10% if the applicant applied for a minor exception. Chairperson Keen advised Mr. Orifice to
use discretion on the way the lighting in the back was positioned and recommended that the extra
security light on the back building be put on the angle wall to match the one on the other angle
wall to help light up the back area. Chairperson Keen asked Staff the reason for the attached
canopy requirement in the code to which Planning Director Liberto - Blanck responded that it was
for aesthetic reasons, so that they would not have the usual service station appearance.
Chairperson Keen then pointed out that on Conditional Use Permit No. 94 -524, Item 7 under
Mitigation Measures, the word "significants" should be changed to "significance ". Consensus
was that overall it was a good workable project and suggested that the applicant apply for minor
exceptions, on the wall height and reduction of landscaping on the South side to allow more
turnaround.
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The following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 94 -1481A
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING VARIANCE CASE NO. 94 -186 FOR SITE
DEVIATIONS TO CONSTRUCT A MINI -MART AND GAS STATION APPLIED
FOR BY KHATCHIK H. ACHADJIAN AT 525 TRAFFIC WAY; ADOPTION OF
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION WITH MITIGATION MEASURES AND
INSTRUCTION THAT THE SECRETARY FILE A NOTICE OF
DETERMINATION
On motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Deviny, and by the following roll
call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny, Hatchett and Chairperson
Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was passed and adopted this 20th day of September 1994.
Commissioner Carr then inquired about the title not reflecting the words mentioned in the "Now,
therefore, be it resolved" on page 2 of the resolution. Chairperson Keen asked Current Planner
Spierling who responded that technically it should be included. Then the following action was
taken to add verbiage to the title as shown in Case No. 94 -524 as follows:
RESOLUTION NO. 94-1481A
A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING VARIANCE CASE NO. 94 -186 FOR SITE
DEVIATIONS TO CONSTRUCT A MINI -MART AND GAS STATION APPLIED
FOR BY KI H. ACHADJIAN AT 525 TRAFFIC WAY; ADOPTION OF
A NEGATIVE DECLARATION WITH MITIGATION MEASURES AND
INSTRUCTION THAT THE SECRETARY FILE A NOTICE OF
DETERMINATION
On motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Hatchett, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny, Hatchett and Chairperson
Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was passed and adopted this 20th day of September 1994.
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The following action was then taken including changing the word "significants" in Item 7 under
Mitigation Measures to "significance ":
RESOLUTION NO. 94 -1482
A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 94-
524 AND ASSOCIATED ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW TO CONSTRUCT A MINI -
MART AND GAS STATION, APPLIED FOR BY KIIATCHIK H. ACHADJIAN
AT 525 TRAFFIC WAY; ADOPTION OF A NEGATIVE DECLARATION WITH
MITIGATION MEASURES AND INSTRUCTION THAT THE SECRETARY FILE
A NOTICE OF DETERMINATION
On notion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Tappan, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny, Hatchett and Chairperson
Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Then the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 94 -1483
A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING VARIANCE CASE NO. 94 -186 FOR SIGN
DEVIATIONS, APPLIED FOR BY KHATCHIK II. ACHADJIAN, AT 525
TRAFFIC WAY
On motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Carr, and by the following roll
call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny, Hatchett and Chairperson
Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
The following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 94 -1484
A RESOLUTION OF TIIE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM CASE NO. 94-
114A, APPLIED FOR BY KIIATCHIK II. ACHADJIAN, AT 525 TRAFFIC WAY
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On motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Hatchets, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny, Hatchett and Chairperson
Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Current Planner Spierling mentioned the availability of the appeal process and advised the
applicant to get a calculation on the traffic mitigation and signalization fee within the 15
consecutive business day appeal period in the event they felt the fees were inappropriate.
During recess, Commissioner Hatchett left the meeting.
NON - PUBLIC HEARING - REQUEST FOR INTERPRETATION OF WHETHER AN
AUTOMOBILE RENTAL AGENCY IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE GENERAL
COMMERCIAL ZONE AT 1205 GRAND AVENUE, APPLICANT IS ENTERPRISE
RENT -A -CAR
Current Planner Spierling gave an overview on this item, advising the Commissioners of the two
resolutions, one indicating the proposed use is permitted and the other indicating it is not
permitted.
Dave Molnar, Area Rental Manager for Enterprise Rent -A -Car, gave reasons he felt their
business would be workable at this location. He stated that they operated different from other
rental car companies in that they served the local community with replacement cars, delivering
the car to their residence or business, and that their average rental is about 11 days. Mr.
Molnar stated they would have only a few cars parked there at one time and felt they would not
exceed and perhaps even use less spaces than the previous business.
Commissioner Carr told Mr. Molnar that he felt there should be a limit on the total number of
vehicles he could have on the parking lot, perhaps 20 to 30, and Mr. Molnar agreed.
Commissioner Soto said he assumed Mr. Molnar had the approval of this business with other
tenants of that shopping center as well as the owners of the center to which Mr. Molnar
answered in the affirmative. Commissioner Soto said he felt that this particular site would be
the most appropriate of any in the City because of the large number of parking spaces.
Commissioner Deviny expressed concern about parking too many cars on the lot because the
area was not well lit. Commissioner Soto asked Mr. Molnar how the cars were dispersed and
Mr. Molnar stated that, for example, if they needed five cars for Monday, shuttle drivers would
bring them down from San Luis Obispo. Commissioner Soto inquired if it was true that they
did not rent inter - State, but local only to which Mr. Molnar said that was true.
Glen Martin, who stated he was an Arroyo Grande resident and handles the property
management for Tri -W Enterprises (the owners of the shopping center), said they have granted
5 specific parking spaces. Mr. Martin stated that they, however, have not limited them in
regard to parking in other spaces on the lot.
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Commissioner Carr said he was concerned that if a conditional use permit is not required, then
how can they stipulate certain constrains and would there be a potential problem with setting a
precedent. Planning Director Liberto - Blanck said they could place conditions on the business
license and that the Commission would need to make detailed findings.
Current Planner Spierling responded that each business had to have a Certificate of Occupancy
and conditions would be placed on that.
After a discussion by the Commissioners, the following action was taken, to include the
following findings:
1. There will be a limitation of 10 vehicles parked on site at any one time.
2. The . nature of this particular use supports the general service business areas of the
City.
RESOLUTION NO. 94 -1485
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE PROVIDING AN INTERPRETATION OF THE
DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT A ENTERPRISE RENT -A -CAR IS A PERMITTED
USE, AT 1205 GRAND AVENUE, IN TIIE GENERAL COMMERCIAL ZONE
On motion by Commissioner Carr, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and by the following roll
call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny and Chairperson Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Hatchett
the foregoing Resolution was passed and adopted this 20th day of September 1994.
NON - PUBLIC HEARING - PLANNING COMMISSION RULES AND PROCEDURES,
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE
Planning Director Liberto - Blanck presented this item, stating that this item was amended
incorporating the suggestions made by the Planning Commission, as well as sorne minor
typographical corrections.
The following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 94 -1486
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION AMENDING RULES AND
PROCEDURES
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On motion by Commissioner Carr, seconded by Commissioner Tappan, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioner Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny and Chairperson Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Hatchett
the foregoing Resolution was passed and adopted this 20th day of September 1994.
NON - PUBLIC HEARING - REQUEST FOR INTERPRETATION OF WHETHER
SIDEWALKS ARE NECESSARY CONSIDERING THE RURAL NATURE OF THE
PROJECT AT 241 CORBETT CANYON ROAD, APPLICANT IS JOHN WALLACE,
ACTING PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR
John Wallace pointed out the Staff Report he had prepared and that the resident was Mr. Ross
McGowan, who was present at this meeting. Mr. Wallace gave an overview of this item,
discussing the different options for the Commission to consider and two resolutions are provided
with one to be voted upon. Mr. Wallace ended his presentation giving reasons why approval
was recommended.
During the discussion concern was raised about future determinations that might conflict with
this particular recommendation and Staff responded that it would not present a problem for
future decisions. When Mr. McGowan was asked about future improvement of his property,
he stated that he understood if he later developed his property that curbs and gutters might be
required.
After a discussion by the Commissioners, the following action was taken, including the
language; "Now, therefore, be it resolved that the Planning Commission of the City of Arroyo
Grande hereby determines that frontage improvements at 241 Corbett Canyon Road are not
required in conjunction with the current building permit according to the provisions of
Development Code Section 9- 15.020 ":
RESOLUTION NO. 94 -1487
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF TIIE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE PROVIDING AN INTERPRETATION OF SECTION 9- 15.020
OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE RELATING TO 241 CORBETT CANYON
ROAD
On motion by Commissioner Tappan, seconded by Commissioner Deviny, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioner Tappan, Soto, Carr, Deviny and Chairperson Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Hatchett
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the foregoing Resolution was passed and adopted this 2001 day of September 1994.
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS
Planning Director Liberto- Blanck reminded the Commission of the Planning Commission
Training Workshop to be held Saturday, October 1, 1994.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
Chairperson Keen stated these were the Outline for the Planning Commission Training
Workshop, two Resolutions that were handed out by John Wallace, and the Tentative Schedule
for Upcoming Meetings.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Commission, on a motion by Commissioner Tappan,
seconded by Commissioner Carr, and unanimously carried, the meeting was adjourned at 10:20
P.M. to the regular meeting on October 4, 1994.
ATTEST:
Nancy BroVvii, Commission Clerk
Joh een, Cl rperson