PC Minutes 1990-04-03ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION, APRIL 3, 1990
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in special session with
Chairman Robert Carr presiding. Present were Commissioners Flores,
Soto, Moore, Gallagher, Brandy and Fischer. Also in attendance
were Planning Director Doreen Liberto - Blanck and Current Planner
Scott Spierling.
MINUTE APPROVAL
Hearing no additions or corrections, the minutes of the special
Planning Commission meeting of December 13, 1989, were approved as
submitted, on motion of Commissioner Flores, seconded by
Commissioner Gallagher, and unanimously carried.
PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 90 -470 AND
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE 90 -446, 1064 MAPLE STREET, ARNO LASCARI
Mr. Spierling referred to the Staff Report of April 3, 1990, and
said the applicant is in the process of constructing a 1,527 square
foot residence and detached three -car garage on this site. He
showed plans of the project on the overhead projector, and said the
main entrance to the house will be approximately in the middle of
the south elevation. He said the main house and the second unit
will be connected by a double door that is located off the dining
room in the main house. He said the second dwelling unit is a
studio type unit with a main living area that has kitchen
facilities located along two walls, in an "L" configuration, and
a separate closet and bathroom also is provided. Mr. Spierling
said the colors and materials used in the structures will consist
of eggshell white stucco, pewter colored wood trim, and a black
composite shingle roof. He said the setbacks meet the requirements
of the R -1 zone (Single Family Residential) as set forth by the
Zoning Ordinance. He said the applicant is constructing a three -
car garage, that will satisfy the parking requirements of the
zoning ordinance.
Mr. Spierling said the Staff Advisory Committee has recommended
that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution which:
1. Approves the project subject to the findings and conditions of
approval;
2. Adopts a Negative Declaration; and
3. Instructs the Secretary to file a Notice of Determination.
After being assured that the Public Hearing had been duly published
and all legal requirements met, Chairman Carr declared the hearing
open and said all persons would be heard regarding the matter.
The applicant, Arno Lascari, said he would answer any questions
with regard to the project.
Commission Moore asked if Mr. Lascari has obtained a building
permit, and Mr. Spierling said he has one for the house he is
building, and is asking to be allowed to convert a bare -boned room
into a second residential unit with a kitchen.
When no one else came forward to speak, Commissioner Carr closed
the hearing to the floor.
There were further questions by Commissioners, and a discussion the
water shortage in the City and the wisdom of allowing second
residential units. Mr. Spierling said State law requires cities
to approve these units on any R -1 lots. The possibility of
adopting a Citywide ordinance with findings prohibiting the second
residential units was discussed. Ms. Liberto - Blanck pointed out
that the units are considered low- income housing, which is required
by the State.
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The following action was taken by the Commission:
RESOLUTION NO. 90 -1284
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT CASE NO. 90 -470, APPLIED FOR BY
ARNO LASCARI, LOCATED AT 1064 MAPLE STREET
TO CONVERT A 470 SQ. FT. PORTION OF A HOUSE
UNDER CONSTRUCTION TO A SECOND RESIDENTIAL
UNIT, ADOPTING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION, AND
INSTRUCTING THE SECRETARY TO FILE A NOTICE
OF DETERMINATION
A motion was made to adopt the Resolution by Commissioner Flores,
and was seconded by Commissioner Gallagher.
Referring to the City's Architectural Guidelines, Commissioner
Fischer suggested that there is a need for more defined
architectural guidelines with more design features, more character
and more quality built into the residential units being constructed
in the City.
The following roll call vote was taken:
AYES: Commissioners Flores, Gallagher, Carr, Brandy and Fischer
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioners Soto and Moore
the foregoing Resolution was passed and adopted this 3rd day of
April, 1990.
It was moved by Commissioner Flores, and seconded by Commissioner
Brandy to approve Architectural Review Case 90 -446. The motion
passed, with Commissioner Fischer voting no.
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE 90 -473, INSTALL 50 FOOT ALUMINUM
FLAGPOLE AT 1590 WEST BRANCH STREET, CARL'S JR. RESTAURANT
Mr. Spierling said in response to a request to install a flag pole,
the Planning Commission on September 18, 1979, determined that flag
poles should be subject to approval via the conditional use permit
process. He said the applicant is proposing construction of a 50
foot high flag pole, topped by a 10 inch diameter spun aluminum
ball. He said the pole will be used to fly a 10 foot by 15 foot
flag. He said the flag pole will be installed in a small lawn area
near the main entrance to the restaurant, and the decrease in
landscaping will not significantly affect the percent of
landscaping provided by the restaurant.
Mr. Spierling said the Staff Advisory Committee has recommended
that the Planning Commission adopt a resolution which recommends
that the City Council approve this project, subject to the findings
and conditions of approval.
There were Commission questions of Staff.
After being assured that the Public Hearing had been duly published
and all legal requirements met, Chairman Carr declared the hearing
open and said all persons would be heard regarding the matter.
When no one came forward to speak, Chairman Carr closed the hearing
to the floor.
Commissioner Fischer said she believes that flag poles with
American flags belong on public property and should not be
connected with commercial ventures.
Commissioner Soto referred to a letter from Reuben Kvidt, developer
of Oak Park Acres, supporting the request for the flag pole.
The following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO.90 -12$5
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO THE
CITY COUNCIL OF USE PERMIT CASE NO. 90 -473,
APPLIED FOR BY CARL'S JR. RESTAURANT, LOCATED AT
1590 WEST BRANCH STREET TO INSTALL A 50 FOOT FLAG POLE
On motion of Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Gallagher,
and on the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Soto, Gallagher, Flores, Moore and Brandy
NOES: Commissioner Fischer
ABSENT: None
the foregoing resolution was passed and adopted this 3rd day of
April, 1990.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 983, RESUBDIVISION OF FOUR (4) EXISTING PARCELS
INTO SIX (6) PARCELS, 134, 141, 143 AND 145 TALLY HO ROAD, L. C.
LAVINE
Planner John Ashbaugh referred to his Staff Report, and explained
why the Staff Advisory Board had recommended this project for
denial. He said the location is in the neighborhood of Via La
Barranca in an area off Tally Ho Road. He said the property
consists of four acres, which are covered with heavy vegetation.
He said the property has the zoning of RAB -3 on the back two lots
and RAB -2 on the front two lots. He said the applicant wants to
divide the front two lots into four lots. He said it is in effect
a resubdivision of the property, and conditions for approval would
apply to the whole property. He said there is not enough
information at this time to develop conditions. He said there has
been a wholesale nursery on the site, and a greenhouse remains
standing but unoccupied.
Mr. Ashbaugh said the sensitive issues involved include steep
slopes, drainage, vegetation and sight distance at the primary
access road and Tally Ho Road. He said the City Engineer has
recommended a full forty foot road dedication. He said lacking the
results of a study of the sight distance, the City has been unable
to make findings that the proposed design and improvements of this
subdivision would be consistent with the City's General Plan. He
said it appears that the site is not physically suitable for the
proposed density of development, due to its steep slopes and
difficult drainage conditions. He said further that the
designation of this site in the new General Plan would limit parcel
sizes to one acre or larger.
Mr. Ashbaugh said the Planning Department has received
authorization for a 30 -day extension beyond the six -month time
limitation established by State law. He said a deposit of $575 for
the traffic study also had been received.
There was discussion of which General Plan the project would
conform to, and Ms. Liberto - Blanck said the application was found
complete prior to the General Plan Update. There was discussion
of the steep slopes, drainage, existing vegetation and wild life
on the property.
After being assured that the Public Hearing had been duly published
and all legal requirements met, Chairman Carr declared the hearing
open and said all persons would be heard regarding the matter.
O. F. Noss of 246 Miller Circle spoke about the drainage from the
property, and said the project should be postponed until the
problem of the water shortage is solved.
Mrs. Noss spoke about the wild life including the oak trees, deer
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and "rafters" on the property. She recommended against further
subdivision.
Mrs. Robert Tyler of 511 Via La Barranca said that drainage from
the property in question backs up when there is rain. She also
said that the greenbelt is becoming non - existent and the Eucalyptus
trees do house owls, hawks and other animals.
Tom Lane of 508 Via La Barranca said there needs to be more study
of the access road into the property. He said there is a lot of
debris and dried brush which should be cleaned up. He said the
drainage is a problem.
When no one else came forward to speak, Chairman Carr closed the
hearing to the floor.
There was discussion by the Commission of why the applicant was not
present and the possibility that he thought the item would be
continued without discussion at this meeting. Commissioners said
they were not in favor of the project generally because of the
aforementioned issues. Mr. Ashbaugh said he would convey the
serious reservations about the project on the part of the
Commissioners, and recommend that the applicant not spend the money
for the sight study at this time.
It was moved by Commissioner Soto, and seconded by Commissioner
Gallagher to continue Tentative Tract Case No. 983 to April 17,
1990. The motion passed, with Commissioners Brandy and Fischer
voting no.
SIGN PERMIT NO. 89 -96, 610 GRAND AVENUE, PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM, JOHN
HAYASHI
This agenda item was continued to the Planning Commission meeting
of May 1, 1990.
TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 1401 (REVISED), HALCYON ROAD AND ALPINE STREET,
JERREN JORGENSEN,
Mr. Spierling referred to his Staff Report, and said there were
seven issues which were discussed by the Planning Commission and
Staff which led to the continuance from December 13, 1989. He said
three of the seven issues have been resolved, and Staff and the
applicant have discussed the four remaining issues. He said they
have found ways the remaining issues can be resolved, but still
need to do some more work. He said the applicant has agreed in
writing to the continuance to April 17, 1990.
There were questions by the Commissioners. After being assured
that the Public Hearing had been duly published and legal
requirements met, Chairman Carr declared the hearing open and said
all persons would be heard regarding the matter.
Dr. Jerren Jorgensen, the applicant, said he plans to remove the
details on the R -1 section of the property and leave it as a
separate parcel unspecified.
Mr. Spierling said the applicant plans to subdivide the commercial
section into three lots and leave the residential property for
subdivision at a later date.
Clifford R. Parson of 653 Cerra Vista Circle said he was wondering
about the project's driveway interfering with his driveway.
When no one else came forward to speak, Chairman Carr closed the
hearing to the floor.
After Commission discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Soto, and
seconded by Commissioner Fischer to continue the discussion of
Tentative Tract No. 1401 to the meeting of April 17, 1990.
PARCEL MAP CASE 89 -482, SUBDIVISION TO CREATE TWO LOTS ON A 22,830
SQ. FT. PARCEL, PROPOSED GROSS LOT SIZES ARE 9,900 SQ. FT. AND
12,930 SQ. FT., 1040 MAPLE STREET, ALEX J. RAMEY
Mr. Spierling referred to his Staff Report, and said the Planning
Commission continued this item from the meeting of February 20,
1990 to the meeting of April 17, 1990. He said the City Council
had given some direction on the water issue sooner than expected
and the item was rescheduled for this meeting. He said the Council
direction consisted on requiring projects to use water conserving
fixtures, drought tolerant landscaping and drip irrigation. He
said based on this direction, Staff has added mitigation measure
number 4 to the resolution for approval of this project.
Mr. Spierling recommended that the Commission adopt a resolution
which:
1. Approves the parcel map with the findings, and subject to the
conditions of approval shown on the resolution;
2. Approve a negative declaration with mitigation measures; and
3. Instructs the secretary to file a Notice of Determination.
Mr. Spierling explained the particulars of the map, and said it is
a two lot subdivision fronting on Maple. He said it is in a flag
lot configuration, and parcel size is 20,130 sq. ft. He said new
lot sizes are 12,330 sq. ft. on the rear parcel, and 7,800 sq. ft.
on the front parcel. He said there is a 20 ft. access and utility
easement provided for the rear parcel, and that also can serve
parcel 1. He said all setbacks and lot coverage can be met, one
tree may have to be removed, an archaeological study has been done,
and the applicant has agreed to pay $2,656 for traffic mitigation.
Commissioner Fischer asked if the Public Works Department has in
place a monitoring system for the water conservation requirements
on this project.
Mr. Spierling said the City's Mitigation Monitoring Program
requires each department to sign off prior to the time frame listed
and before recording the Parcel Map.
Commissioner Fischer asked if the landscaping would have to be in,
and Mr. Spierling said no, just the approval of the CC &Rs which
require the landscaping to be installed.
Ms. Liberto - Blanck said the City will be employing a Water
Conservation Director to handle these matters.
There was discussion of whether the City would be involved in
enforcing the CC &Rs, which are agreements between the homeowners
in a subdivision, or if the City's water conservation program is
more advisory in nature.
After being assured that the Public Hearing had been duly published
and all legal requirements met, Chairman Carr declared the hearing
open and said all persons would be heard regarding the matter.
Terry Orton of Westland Engineering said the conditions on this
project are similar to those on the Olsen project which was
approved recently. He said the applicant would not be opposed to
having the landscaping installed prior to final approval of the
building. He said that the City could be part of the CC &Rs and
thereby have input into the enforcement of the water conservation
measures.
When no one else came forward to speak, Chairman Carr closed the
hearing to the floor.
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There was extensive Commission discussion of the City monitoring
the CC &Rs on this lot split in order to make sure the water
conservation requirements are complied with.
There also was discussion of allowing second dwelling units in the
City and the potential of four units eventually being built on the
parcels if this lot split is approved. There was Commission
concern about limiting second units because of the water shortage.
Chairman Carr suggested an ordinance limiting them with findings
that it would be in the best interest of the City. Ms. Liberto-
Blanck said the ordinance would have to be Citywide. She said
State law says the City must permit second units in R -1 Zones. She
also said the second units could Se-counted as the City's low
income housing. She said she would discuss the issue with the City
Attorney again.
After further discussion, it was moved by Commissioner Soto, and
seconded by Commissioner Flores, to pass a Resolution approving
Parcel Map Case No. 89 -482 with an additional Mitigation Measure
No. 5, which shall read, "Prior to final occupancy of any structure
constructed on either Lot 1 or 2, all water conserving designs or
fixtures shall be installed."
RESOLUTION NO. 90 -1286
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING PARCEL MAP CASE NO. 89 -482
LOCATED AT 1040 MAPLE STREET APPLIED FOR BY J. ALEX
RAMEY, ADOPTING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND INSTRUCTING
THE SECRETARY TO FILE A NOTICE OF DETERMINATION
AYES: Commissioners Soto, Flores, Gallagher and Fischer
NOES: Commissioners Brandy and Carr
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Moore
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 3rd day of April, 1990.
THE COMMISSION RECESSED FROM 8:50 TO 8:55 P.M.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 90 -447, 221 E. BRANCH STREET,
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF A RETAINING WALL AND PROJECT SITE
DEVELOPMENT PLAN, MARK GODFREY
Continued to the meeting of May 1, 1990.
CITY COUNCIL ANSWERED AGENDA
No additional information was presented.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW OF ADDITION TO VILLAGE CREEK PLAZA I
Mr. Spierling referred to his Staff Report of April 3, 1990, and
said Mid Coast Land Company has requested permission to enclose the
breezeway under the clock tower of building A with a glass
enclosure. He said it would provide a wind -free seating area for
the patrons of the deli which is housed in this building. He said
the applicants feel this is a minor change to the building and
should not be required to undergo architectural review.
After questions of Staff and discussion, it was moved by
Commissioner Brandy, seconded by Commissioner Flores, and the
motion passed, to require the applicants to go through the
Architectural Review process so that Planning Commissioners can
clarify what the interior space will be used for, and whether or
not the enclosed breezeway will become an extension of the
delicatessen. Chairman Carr also asked that installation of just
one panel in front be considered in the review.
PLANNING COMMISSIONERS INSTITUTE
Ms. Liberto - Blanck and Commissioner Fischer reported on the
institute, and said the sessions on community themes,
architectural guidelines, and water were very informative. The
Planning Director said future conferences will take place in
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Monterey. There was discussion of the Planning Commission holding
workshops on subjects such as architectural guidelines and water
conservation, with outside speakers invited.
SIGN INTERPRETATION - LAST CHANCE LIQUOR
Mr. Spierling referred to his Staff Report of April 3, 1990,/ and
said Staff felt that the sign permit application constituted three
signs, and as a result, only issued a permit for thesign over the
arched window on the front of the building. He said the applicant
disagreed with Staff and felt the three signs constitute , ,one
continuous sign.
CHARLES DOSTER, the applicant, 1152 Tenth Street, Los Osos, spoke
in favor of the signs being considered as one sign. He said
additional signs are needed on the sides.because the middle sign
with the arch is not lighted.
After Commission discussion, it was moved by Commissioner
Gallagher, and seconded by Chairman Carr to interpret the signs as
one single sign. The motion passed on a roll call vote, with
Gallagher, Carr, Brandy, Moore and Soto voting aye and Fisher and
Flores voting no. Chairman Carr asked Staff to research the use
of plastic signs in the Village. Mr. Doster said the flagpole at
the business establishment would be 20 feet high and fly only
United States and California flags.
COMMISSION DISCUSSION OF DEVELOPING GENERAL ARCHITECTURAL
GUIDELINES FOR THE CITY
Commissioner Fischer suggested getting input from other cities, and
some of the speakers at the Planning Commissioners Institute.
Commissioners discussed the Village having guidelines but the rest
of the City having none. They said guidelines would allow planning
applicants to know what would be expected of them. Commissioner
Flores said there should be a consistent theme in the commercial
areas but not in residential. Commissioner Soto said he would like
to see the Village historical character confirmed. After further
discussion, Commissioners directed Staff to begin a review and plot
a course toward general architectural guidelines for the City, and
set up workshops on the subject, with the public and other cities
being invited.
Ms. Liberto - Blanck said she would have to include in the 1990/1991
Budget monies for speakers for the workshops. She said she has
included in the budget so far a Master Trails Plan, an Historic
District Plan for the Village area, a Sphere of Influence Study and
a Low Income Housing study.
Commissioners Fischer and Gallagher volunteered to work with Staff
on developing the architectural guidelines.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
The Planning Director brought to the attention of the Commissioners
Assembly Bill 4242, which would set up seven regional agencies
throughout the State. She said the agencies would have certain
land use powers, which could take some control away from local
government.
The Commission was reminded that the City Council would be holding
its first meeting on the General Plan Update at 7:30 P.M. Monday,
April 9, 1990, at the South County Regional Center.
Also announced was a County -wide Planning Commission meeting on
April 5, 1990, at the Embassy Suites, San Luis Obispo.
ADJOURNMENT
The Commission adjourned at 9:50 P.M. to the Special County -Wide
Meeting at 1:00 P.M. Thursday, April 5, 1990.
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ROBERT W. CARR, CHAIRMAN