PC Minutes 1986-04-01ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING CO.'(IIS,SION
April 1, 1986
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The Arroyo Grande Planning Corornsion met in re altar session with Chairman Gerrish
presiding. Present are Commissioners Olsen, Flores, Moore, Carr and Soto. banning Director
Eisner and Associate Planners Iversen and Rosen are also in attendance. Comaissioner Bogg
is absent.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE. NO. 86 -358, REQUEST FOR TWO WALL SIGNS, 840 OAK
PARK BOULEVARD. (MARIE CALLEITDE tS RESTAURANT).
Planning Director Eisner advised that he had received a telephone call from the
applicant of Agenda Items 1 and 2 asking for a continuance of two weeks due to the fact that
their slide presentation of the issues at hand are incomplete. clearing no objections to the
continuance, Chairman Gerrish advised that Architectural Review Cerise No. .86-358 and 86 -359
are being continued to the next meeting of April 15, 1936.
COr',MISSIONER BOGGY ENTERED Ti-U3 MEETING DURING TIM ABOVE DISCUSSION
AND IS NOW • N. T.
PUBLIC HEARING — USE PERMIT CASE NO. 86-405, REQUEST TO INSTALL CAR WASH
AND RFT1OCATE STORAGE BUILDING, 222 GRAND AVENUE. (IHATCBIK
ACHADJIANJARROYO GRANDE SIhELL).
Chairman Gerrish turned the meeting over to Vice Chairman Carr.
Planning Director Eisner advised the request is to add an automatic car wash to the
Shell Service Station facility at the cover of Grand Avenue and East Branch Street. The
building will be a brick veneer with a new rock roof to match the existing service station. The
application has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Co,-rrrittee and is forwarded to the Planning
Commission with a list of 7 conditions that, if the Commission following public hearing chooses to
approve this, should be added to clarify any concerns that staff has.
Commissioner Soto inquired about the condition to • reverse the flow of traffic. Planning
Director Eisner stated that in reviewing the applicantion, there was some concern that if the
traffic flow was from the west to the east, it would create a situation where cars would stack
up and tend to be out on the sidewalk. If the flow of traffic ran from east to west through
the car wash facility, there is a larger area for drying and no traffic hazard would be created.
Commissioner Boggess inquired regarding additional parking. Mr. Eisner stared • there. is no
additional parking required for this facility since it is fully automatic. The eight spaces now
available on the site meets the requirements for the service station facility. Vice Chairman
Carr asked about the amount of water used in an automatic car wash such as this. Mr.
Eisner stated that the concerns of the Staff Advisory Committee had more to do with the
condition of the water going back into the sewer system rather than the amount used.
Upon being assured by the Plannin Secretary that public hearing for Use Permit Case
No. 86 -405 had been duly published and property owners notified, Vice Chairman Carr declared
the hearing open.
Mr. Achadjian, Arroyo Grande Shell, 222 Grand Avenue, spoke in favor of the .
Permit being granted. He d the proposed facility as being one where you drive th car •
in, it is automatically washed and blow dried. He stated there is a new method of purifying the
water through a recycling system, so the water is not wasted.
l ;i •l Gerrish, 823 Plata Road, stated at Grand Ae E, Street
uses about 5 acre. feet t water T ,� stted that the car wash v
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let t of wa er• year. The ; ^gash, water is recycled for the rinse wat a
then goes out through the sewer.
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business and he doesn't
regard to the flow of
because there is plenty
get into the car wash.
traffic more on Branch
stated that the service station is not geared just for a car wash
expect to have excessive useage with this type of an operation. With
traffic, he advised that the reason it was designed the way it was is
of room in the back on station property to take care of cars waiting to
He stated, in his opinion, reversing the flow of traffic will back up
Street.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed Use Permit, Vice Chairman
Carr declared the hearing closed.
. Comissioner Boggess stated, in his opinion, it seems like quite a :few uses are being
crowded onto a small lot here and some traffic is going to be created. Mr. Eisner stated staff
does not anticipate that the overall impact is going to be great. Vice Chairman Carr .stated it
seems they are cramming a lot of building on that small lot,. and he also has some concerns
about the water useage. He stated his feelings that the Commission should be presented with
more information beforehand on issues such as this.
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After further discussion, the following action was taken:
RR SOLUTION NO. 86-1081 "
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING USE PERMIT CASE' NO. 86 -405,
APPLIED FOR BY KHATCHIK ACHADJIAN /ARROYO GRANDE SHELL,
AT 222 GRAND AVENUE.
On motion by Commissioner Flom, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Moore, Flores, Soto and Olsen
NOES: Commissioners Bogge and Vice Chairman Carr
ABSENT: Chairman Gerrish
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 1st day of April 1986.
Architectural Review Case No. 86
Planning Director Eisner advised that the design is appropriate and is in keeping with
the design of the existing service station.
On motion by Commissioner Flores, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and unanimously
carried, Architectural Review Case No. 86 -360 was approved.
CHAIRMAN GERRISH ASSUMED '11E CHAIR AND IS NOW PRESENT.
PUBLIC TEARING - LOT SPLIT CASE NO. 86 -426, (REVERSION 10 Aa EAGE),
PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED SOUTH OF HALCYON ROAD AND DODSON WAY.
(JORGENSSEN /GILTON/M11 LER).
Planruring Director Eisner noted that the public hearing was advertised as reversion to
acreage, however, technically it is a resubmission of a previously approved and existing parcel
map for the purposes of removing a notation on the map which reads "This parcel can only be
disposed of to adjacent property owners to the west or south". He stated the purpose of this
notation was to remove the possibility of creating a landlocked parcel and, subsequent to that
approval, Alpine Street has been extended and now provides direct access from a dedicated City
street. He pointed out that the only object of this hearing is for the purpose of removing the
stated - notation.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public hearing for Lot
Split Case No. 86 -426 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing open. Hearing no comments from the audience for or against the proposed
lot split, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Carr inquired about the access to Parcel 2. Planning Director Eisner
advised that, depending on the development plan proposed, access could be on Alpine Street or
it could go back out to Halcyon. He commented that it is staff's understanding that the
applicant is proposing to modify the General Plan to create 4 or 5 single family lots facing on
Alpine Street and designating the other portion as "P -C" for sorrie type of medical facilities.
Mr. Eisner stated that the application has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory
Corrnittee and is submitted with the following recommendation:
1. Owner's Certificate shall be changed to reflect the deletion of
the notation on Parcel "B ".
After a brief discussion, on motion by Commissioner Olsen, seconded by Commissioner
Boggess, and unanimously carried, Lot Split Case No. 86 -426 was approved subject to the
recommended condition noted above.
PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS
RELATING TO AGRICULTURAL ZONES.
Planning Director Eisner reviewed that in June of 1985, at the direction of the City
Council, an amendment to the Comprehensive General Plan of the City was prepared and was set
for public hearing by both the Planning Commission and City Council. The purpose was to adopt
the agricultural soil designations prepared by the Soil Conservation Service which designated
prime agricultural soils. He noted that the classifications of Class I or Class II soils, or general
soil classifications were not used, but provided designations such as Prime Farmland which
included Class I and mss II soils, and in sorne cases Class III soils; also in some cases Class I
and II soils are deleted. He stated that after study sessions before the Planning Commission
and two public hearings, and after a study session and public hearing with the Council, the
General Plan was amended and the categories added, including "Prime Farmland" area with a
minimum size of ten acres.
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Mr. Eisner pointed out that the General Plan Map has been amended, and staff was
directed by the Council to prepare the necessary ,implementing ordinance sections. He advised
that the issues before the Planning Commission are six -fold:
1. Deletion of the existing "A" Agricultural zone from the Zoning Ordinance
2. Recommend adoption of a designation "Prime Ag ieultural District" or "A -1" Zone
to implement the General Plan.
3. Recor:n:end adoption of a proposed designation of Agricultural. or "A -2" zone.
4. Redesignation on the map of land presently zoned "A" to "A -2" Agricultural zone,
where the development standards in terra of land size would remain the same.
5. Designation of those areas now . zoned Agricultural and identified in the Soils
Report as not Prime farmland to "A -2".
6. Modify "RA -B3" zoning on Prime Farmland to "A -1" zoning.
Mr. Fisner reminded the Commission that the general policy has already been adopted,
and that is that the General Plan has already identified those areas of "A -2" - 1 -1/2 acres,
and those areas of Prime Farmland have already been identified and changed to 10 acre
minimum.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public hearing for
proposed Zoning Ordinance and Zoning Map amendments had been duly published and property
owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. H. E. Bean, 1212 Flora Road;
Rev. B'Gjorgen, Pastor of the Assembly of God Church, 207 Pilgrim Way; Tom Runnels, Valley
Road; Daniel Leaf, Bank of America, repr the Dixson Ranch on Cherry and Branch Mill.
Road; Ray Jones, 831 E. Cherry Avenue; Gabe DeLeon, Coach Road; L. E. Vandeveer, 756
Myrtle Street; Mrs. Stilwell, 734 Myrtle Street; Tony PMIarsalek, 536 E. Cherry 'Avenue; C. S.
Curicic, 603 E. Cherry Avenue; Glen Peters, 706 Myrtle Street; June Waller, 1098 Huasna Road;
Coker Ellsworth, 129 E. Bridge Street; Raul Fstes, 811 E. Cherry Avenue; Scott Runnels; Joe
Marsalek, Marsalek Estate on Cherry Avenue; John Oreuta, 444 Lierly Lane; Barbara Grieb,
Lopez Drive, spoke in opposition to the proposed amendments. Marie Cattoir, 195 Orchid Lane,
inquired as to how the change will affect the RA -B3 properties off of So. 'll.affie Way
Extension. Planning Director Eisner advised the properties will remain exactly the same.
• Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed amendments, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing closed. He asked Mr. Eisner if there were any property owners included
in this proposal that did not object to the change. Mr. Eisner suggested that, all things
considered, it aright be of benefit to continue this matter and allow staff time to map and
identify the parcels. owned •by those persons opposing the amendments and, perhaps bring it back
to the Cbinwission for a study session on the 29th • of April, and back on the Corimrriission agenda
the first meeting in May.
Commissioner Flom stated he doesn't think the Carrnrission can create agricultural land
just like that, and he was impressed with the discussion by the property owners here tonight.
He further stated it doesn't make sense to classify land as . agriculture when it can't be used as
such and, in his opinion, when we start tairang about this in concept, we have to look at parcels
that are economically feasible as agricultural lands. Commissioner Olsen stated her feelings are
that if the City has to bring something into conformity, then it should be done by charging the
General Plan. Commissioner Carr stated he is in favor of the suggestion to do more detailed
work on the matter and bring it back to the Commission the first meeting in May. He further
stated he feels special consideration should be given to those parcels that are too small to be
farmed. He commented he would like to see some information that says you can convert an old
walnut orchard and make money, or is it really prohibitive? He questioned if we are honestly
attempting to preserve prime farmland and, if we are interested in doing that, then we should
have the kind of information to use to make the right determination; we need to have better
detail on what we are looking at and more information on what is feasible. Chairman Gerrish
stated, in his opinion, it is a waste of time to consider this any more, and he would recommend
to the City Council that none of these changes be made, and ,that we change the General Plan
back the way it was before. Commissioner Carr stated the Commission has been charged•by the
City Council to look at these properties. and, in his opinion, it is the Commission's responsibility
to give an honest look to determine whether or not any or all of that property should be
rezoned.
After further discussion, on motion by Commissioner. Carr, seconded by Corrrrassioner
• Boggess, and carried with three "no" vot to review this matter at a study session on April
29th, requesting staff to provide the information indicated, such as information on the parcels
we are dealing with, and that the matter be back on the Commission's Agenda for the May 6th
meeting.
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PUBLIC HEARING - SAFETY AND SEISMIC SAFETY ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
Mr.. Eisner referred to the draft of the revision to the Safety and :seismic Safety
Element of the General Plan. He advised that the draft has been reviewed by the Police
Department and Fire Department, other City departments, and has been distributed to all
necessary public agencie . He stated that the draft element was previously sent to the
Commission for review and, following the public hearing, staff suggts that a recommendation
for adoption be forwarded to the City Council.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public hearing for the
Safety and Seismic Safety Element of the General Plan had been duly advertised, Chairman
Gerrish declared the hearing open.
- Marie Cattoir, 105 Orchid Lane, commented on the apparent lack of public interest in
issues of public safety. She referred to Diablo Canyon as being the greatest potential for
damage that could affect al of the population of this area.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed Element, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing closed.
Associate Planner Nancy Iversen pointed out that this document is not an emergency
plan; it is an element of the General Plan. Eisner stated that this is not intended to be
the answer to all of the prepardness planning that has to be done. The State Law says that
within the scope of the General Plan, sorne basic framework has to be established.
After general discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 86 -1082
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMENDING TO '!lit CITY
COUNCIL ADOPTION OF THE SAFETY AND SEIS MIC SAFETY
FLFR,IENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN.
On motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Cor:•nrissioner Moore, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
- -- AYES: Commissioners Soto, Moore, Carr, Olsen, Flores, Boggess and Chairman Gerrish
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 1st day of April 1936.
ADJOURNWMIT
There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned by
the Chairman at 10:50 P.M.