PC Minutes 1984-09-04ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
September 4, 1984
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with
Chairman Gerrish presiding. Present are Commissioners Fischer, Moore, Moots,
Olsen and Soto. Commissioner Carr is absent. Planning Director Eisner and
Associate Planner Stonier are also in attendance.
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Upon hearing no additions or corrections, the minutes of the regular
meeting of August 21, 1984 were approved as prepared on motion by Commissioner
Fischer, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and unanimously carried.
nicamcluzu, BIELEA CASE NO. 84___315 F „UNIT MAIM= ALL. LUZ .6.69E
STREET 1 MIE. "R -G" DISTRICT. (GARY WHITE) -
Planning Director Eisner advised that the drawings for this project
have not arrived and the applicant is asking for continuance to the meeting of
September 18, 1984.
PUBLIC k1 '.Al2TNG = LOT SPLIT CASE LIS2.. 84 -398, 73Z PRTNTZ ROAD IN TIM "R -S"
DTSTRICL (F, KIRKPATRICK).
:Manning Director Eisner advised that the applicant is requesting a
division of property into two parcels, and the proposal complies with City
Standards for minimum lot size in the R -S Zone. He further advised that the
applicant has offered for dedication a seven foot strip for right of way on
Printz Road. A cross easement of twenty feet on Parcel 2 and twenty five feet
on Parcel 1 is proposed for access (ingress /egress), drilling, operation and
maintenance of a well, sewer, water, public utilities and drainage.
Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for
Lot Split Case No. 84 -398 had been duly published and property owners
notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open.
F. J. Kirkpatrick, applicant, spoke in favor of the Lot Split being
approved. He stated that the 7 ft. easement was deeded about 5 years ago, so
that requirement has been taken care of. He further stated that the easements
are shown on the map. Mr. Heorge Hiester, 1414 So. Miller, Santa Maria,
stated he owns the property contiguous to Mr. Kirkpatrick, and he has a 20 ft.
easement that is not specified across the north side of the property. He
stated he would like to have that easement specified in the split. Mr. Eisner
advised that there are overlapping easements and they are there by deed
restriction. Mr. Kirkpatrick commented that the easement is specified right
on the title report.
Upon hearing no further comments for or against the proposed lot
split, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed. After a brief
discussion, Lot Split Case No. 84 -398 was approved, subject to the recommended
conditions in the staff report, dated September 4, 1984, on motion by
Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner Moore, and unanimously carried.
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Planning Director Eisner advised that the subject property has already
been split by the construction of Linda Drive and the purpose of this
procedure is to formalize the legality of the parcels as separate entities so
that the applicants can list them with the County as separate parcels. He
commented that the request complies with all of the standards of the City of
Arroyo Grande, both in terms of zoning and the subdivision.
Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for
Lot Split Case No. 84 -399 had been duly published and property owners
notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. Upon hearing no
comments for or against the proposed lot split,'Chairman Gerrish declared the
hearing closed.
Commissioner Moore inquired if there is a pond on Parcel B, and if the
ponds have been discontinued in the Fair Oaks Area? Planning Director Eisner
advised that the existing pond is on Parcel B and it has been there for quite
awhile. Mr. Moore inquired about the pipe line to Walnut Street. He
commented they are putting up a 36 inch riser 2 ft. above the ground, and the
water is going to go to Walnut Street and Maple Street. He stated that about
a half mile down the line, after the water leaves Walnut Street, it comes by
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his place, and his concern is that some of his neighbors' property is 2 ft.
below the water on Walnut Street, and his question is, when is this pipeline
going to be built? Planning Director Eisner advised he did not know about the
pipeline, and he was not sure if the question would be germane to the request
for a ministerial lot split. Commissioner Moore questioned if we are prepared
to take care of the water? Chairman Gerrish stated he• doesn't quite
understand why there is a city street in here with parcels on both sides of
that street with the same parcel numbers. He further commented that if there
is any development on the parcels, they would have to take care of their own
water.
After further discussion, Lot Split Case No. 84 -399 was approved on
motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner Moots, and carried,
with one "no" vote and one abstention.
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Planning Director Eisner advised that the subject lot split is noted
as a lot line adjustment under the provisions of the Subdivision Map Act of
the State of California. He noted the request is to re- orient two existing
lots, one of which does not now comply with the Zoning Ordinance, so as to
create two lots of 7,000 sq. ft. and 7,100 sq. ft. respectively. He further
noted that the adjustment, as proposed, would meet the minimum standards of
the Zoning Ordinance, including the side yard setback for the existing house.
Staff recommends that this parcel alignment be conditioned that any
improvements on Crown Terrace or on LePoint Street required by the Public
Works Department be completed in accordance with the adopted atlas of the City
of Arroyo Grande.
Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for
Lot Split Case No. 84 -400 had been duly published and property owners
notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open.
Jim McGillis, Surveyor, San Luis Engineering, 136 Bridge St.,
representing the applicant, stated they would ask the Commission for
consideration in timing of the improvements and ask that the Commission
condition the improvements on the application for building permits rather than
recordation.
Upon hearing no further comments for or against the proposed lot
split, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed.
With regard to Mr. McGillis' request, Planning Director Eisner advised
that staff would have no problem with conditioning the improvements at the
time of application for a building permit.
After a brief discussion, Lot Split Case No. 84 -400 was approved on
motion by Commissioner Moore, seconded by Commissioner Fischer, and
unanimously carried, subject to recommended condition, amended to read:
"completion of improvements prior to issuance of building permit ".
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$,F _ T L L BIJBDIVISION IN TEE "R -1" DISTRICT. _LN HANEY) .
Planning Director Eisner briefly reviewed the staff report, dated
epten,ber 4, 1984. He advised that the Staff Advisory Committee had reviewed_
the application and recommended the following special conditions over and
above the standard conditions of the City of Arroyo Grande.
1. A fire hydrant as approved by the Fire Department.
2. Curb, gutter and sidewalk as approved by the Public Works Dept.
3. Conformance to the Halcyon Rbad plan line as approved by the
Public Works Department.
4. Pavement of cul-de -sac shown on property "not -a- part" of this
development; curb, gutter and sidewalk on this portion of the
street is not a requirement of this development.
5. Appropriate easements as required by public utilities.
Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for
Tract No. 1223 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman_
Gerrish declared the hearing open.
Joe Mautz, 950 The Pike, questioned if the street would go through to
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Halcyon Road? He further questioned how the residents of the proposed
subdivision would get to their property? Mr. Eisner responded by advising
that the extension of Magnolia Street would serve the 8 parcels in the
subdivision, and access to the project would be one of two ways; it would
either be off Halcyon down Sycamore Drive to Mulberry and then east again on
Magnolia to the subdivision, or along The Pike into Gaynfair Terrace, into
Magnolia and then into the property, but Magnolia would not be pushed through
to Halcyon.
Jim McGillis, representing the applicant, placed a large map of the
proposed tract on the board for review by the audience. Chairman Gerrish
declared a 5 minute recess.
The meeting was reconvened at 8 :15 P.M. with all Planning Commission
members present as shown on roll call.
Mr. McGillis advised that all of the improvement water and drainage
water will drain into the street. The lots are basically more than the normal
6,000 sq. ft. lots; it is a standard City street and meets all of the City
requirements. He requested the Commission's consideration regarding
recommended condition No. 4 requiring pavement of property "not -a- part" of the
development, noting that normal requirements are building one parking lane and
one driving lane on the developed side of the street, and the applicants are
asking for the same consideration, even though it is a cul-de -sac.
Mrs. Wade, Sycamore Drive, stated she is concerned about more traffic
on Sycamore Drive, and she doesn't think it is fair to but more houses in
there without having an access. Jay Melton stated he owns the property that
is not included in this subdivision, and he was concerned about the elevation .
of the cul-de -sac; he conuented that right now the present ground level is
about 16" higher than his house. Mr. McGillis stated they would have the cul-
de -sac lower than Mr. Melton's house so the flow line in front would be lower
than his house. Mr. Melton inquired about shortening the street so that it
doesn't take so much out of his yard. Chairman Gerrish advised there is no
way the City can require the applicant, or Mr. Melton, to do that section of
the street at this time. Mr. Eisner advised that the radius of the cul -de-
sac, even without that piece, is wide enough to serve the needs of the
property owners and emergency vehicles.
Curt Nelson, Mulberry Lane, stated he is curious about the agreement
that the "not -a -part" portion would not necessarily be finished, and what it
would look like; the sidewalk would end at "not -a- part ", and the street would
simply be paved, but there would be no curb, gutter and sidewalk. Mr.
McGillis advised Mr. Nelson he is correct. He commented they had explored
shortening the cul-de -sac, however, the City was very adamant about not having
access onto Halcyon Road. As an overall comment, Mr. McGillis pointed out
that the property is located in the City with all types of City services
available to it and, in his opinion, it should be supported.
Upon hearing no further comments for or against the proposed
subdivision, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director Eisner advised that a letter from the San Luis .
Obispo County Health Agency was received and is on file, indicating that as a
standard condition, if any wells are found on the property, they should be
capped and destroyed.in accordance with County and State Standards.
Commissioner Soto inquired if the proposed lot sizes are compatible to
other lot sizes in the area. Mr. Eisner advised that they are compatible.
Commissioner Moore inquired if we are leaving Mr. Melton with an unsolvable
problem. Mr. Eisner commented that, in taking a look at it, he could probably
get two lots out of his property; there are 150 ft. across the back, so he
could get two 75 ft. lots, even though the depth would be restricted a little
bit because of the cul-de -sac.
After discussion, it was agreed to delete No. 4 from the list of
special conditions recommended by staff. There being no further discussion,
the following action was taken:
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by the
AYES:
NOES
ABSENT:
the foregoing
ATTEST:
RESOLUTION NO. 84 -1012
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY CF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING
TENTATIVE TRACT NAP NO. 1223, FILED BY
DON MC HANEY, AND REFERRAL TO THE CITY
COUNCIL FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.
Commissioners Fischer, Moore, Moots, Olsen,
Soto and Chairman Gerrish
None
Commissioner Carr
Resolution was adopted this 4th day of September 1984.
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On motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner Moots, and
following roll call vote, to wit:
AEGOURNIEET
There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was
adjourned by the Chairman at 8:30 P.M.
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