PC Minutes 2009-09-151
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CALL TO ORDER - The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session
with Chair Ray presiding; also present were Commissioners, Barneich, Brown, Keen,
and Ruth. Staff member in attendance were Planning Manager Jim Bergman.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: None
AGENDA REVIEW: None
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Brown made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Barneich to approve
the minutes of July 21, 2009, as presented, upon the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
6:00 P.M.
Commissioner Brown made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Ruth to approve the
minutes of September 1, 2009, with the following modifications:
• Page 3, first paragraph, should read "The issues and concerns raised include:
the residents did their homework as requested by the Planning Commission and
the Commission ignored past residents comments and concerns that were
presented at the previous public hearings regarding the General Plan
Amendment, redwood tree, water, development not consistent with the adjacent
referendums, Coastal Plan, and past Council Member comments, the citizens
that were against development in the past were against development in the
adjacent area, and there are vacant homes for sale in the same area of the
proposed project."
• Page 5, fourth paragraph, last sentence should read "She said she was told by
knowledgeable people that impacts to prime soils should be considered for
CEQA even though a property is zoned commercial."
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
Commissioner Barneich, Brown, Ruth and Chair Ray
None
Commissioner Keen
None
Commissioner Barneich, Brown, Ruth and Chair Ray
None
Commissioner Keen
None
A. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None
B. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS AFTER AGENDA PREPARATION:
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
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The following was received after agenda preparation: a letter dated and received on
September 15, 2009 from Shirley Gibson, HRC Member, regarding III.B. changes to
historic resources criteria.
II. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS: None
III. NON - PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
A. LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT CASE NO. 09 -003, APPLICANT — DORFMAN HOMES
INC. — TRAFFIC WAY /EAST CHERRY
Commissioner Brown stepped down from the dais due to a conflict on this item.
Planning Manager Jim Bergman presented the staff report to consider a proposal to
reconfigure four (4) existing lots, which would create three lots zoned as Traffic Way
Mixed Use and one parcel zoned as Agriculture. Staff is recommending approval of the
Lot Line Adjustment.
Commission questions /comments of staff included to split Tots with the buffer so lot is
more useful; referred to number 7. in the staff report regarding creating a
nonconforming lot in the development district in which it exists, except as allowed in
Section 16.48.110 of this title; can the buffer be imposed on residential and commercial
property; will a nonconforming lot be created; and is Lot C residential.
In response to Commissioners questions, Mr. Bergman said you could make three
skinny Tots so all lots would have a buffer on it; read Section 16.12.170(e) (4) of the
Municipal Code regarding the permitted uses /restrictions in the buffer; and if Lot C is
sold in the future, there will be language indicating there is an ag buffer for the potential
buyer.
Chair Ray invited comments from those in the audience who wished to be heard on the
matter.
Ed Dorfman, La Cresta, said this project meets the seven findings listed in the staff
report for a Lot Line Adjustment; kept land in agricultural use as long as possible; never
intended to farm the land but has in essence; is creating three equal lots; and Lot 3 is
not nonconforming.
Commissioner Keen supported the project; question if three Tots are more sellable than
one lot; the lot with the buffer may be hard to develop; and the lot may not meet the
criteria for nonconforming.
Commissioner Ruth and Commissioner Barneich supported the project, with the
understanding that the use for Lot C is limited.
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6:35 p.m. the Commission took a five minute break.
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Commissioner Barneich questioned how would Lot D, which is zoned ag be changed to
residential? Mr. Bergman said there is language in the General Plan and the Municipal
Code that talks about mitigations to prime land and CEQA guidelines would be
triggered.
Chair Ray stated she is concerned with the lot line adjustment as she was sued in the
past with a similar issue of the buffer on Whiteley Street and the size of Lot C.
Mr. Bergman stated staff feels comfortable with the recommendation of approval for the
Lot Line Adjustment and Lot C does have potential for development.
Commissioner Ray asked if Exhibit "A" is unfinished. Mr. Jim Bergman stated this is
complete and should have a period.
Mr. Bergman corrected the address on the Resolution.
Commissioner Barneich made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Keen, to adopt a
resolution approving Lot Line Adjustment 09 -003, and adopt
RESOLUTION NO.09 -2092
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT 09-
003; LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF TRAFFIC WAY AND EAST
CHERRY AVENUE; APPLIED FOR BY DORFMAN HOMES, INC
The motion was approved by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioner Barneich, Keen, Ruth and Chair Ray
NOES: None
ABSTAINED: Commissioner Brown
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 15th day of September 2009.
Commissioner Brown is now present at the dais.
B. DISCUSSION AND COMMENTS RELATED TO FUTURE CITY COUNCIL
CONSIDERATION OF POTENTIAL CHANGES TO HISTORIC RESOURCES
CRITERIA, CASE NO. 09 -010
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SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
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Planning Manager Jim Bergman presented the staff report for discussion and comments
related to the future City Council consideration of potential changes to historic resources
criteria.
Commission questions /comments of staff ensued why not a public hearing issue?
Mr. Bergman responded this is coming to Planning Commission due to the Commission
stating they want to comment on the Historic Resource process and assumes that there
will be a public hearing when this is presented to the City Council. The Commission
discussed the ten criteria presented in the staff report.
Chair Ray invited comments from those in the audience who wished to be heard on the
matter.
Bill Hart, Historic Resources Committee (HRC) Chairman provided the following
comments to the ten potential changes to the historic resource criteria listed in the staff
report and stated he would like everyone to be consistent in.the language:
1. Consideration of modifying Historic Resources Criteria
The HRC has made a recommendation that the Council adopt the National Register
Criteria.
2. Consideration of Utilizing the National Register Bulletin: How to Apply the
National Register Criteria for Evaluation or Similar Document
The HRC uses the Department of Interiors for Rehabilitation, adopted by the City.
The HRC has made a recommendation that the Council utilize the Council utilize the
National Register Bulletin: How to Apply the National Register Criteria for Evaluation
with a modifying statement related to Arroyo Grande's unique history.
3. Develop a Defined and Articulated Historical Context
The HRC is recommending that the Council develop an in depth history of Arroyo
Grande and develop categories (suggest Prehistory, Spanish Period, Town
Settlement, City Hood, Pre -War and II Post War II).
4. Development of Criteria to Designate Different Levels of Historic Resource and
Varying Mitigation Measures
The HRC did not discuss this criteria.
5. Development of a Process to Allow the Relocation of Historic Resources
The Historic Resources Committee has made a recommendation that the Council
not develop a new process (how /when) to allow the relocation of historic resources.
6. Establish ARC and HRC Review Procedures for Designated or Potential
Historic Resources
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Commissioner
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7
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9
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Elizabeth Ruth
Yes
Yes
Moot point
addressed
in #2
No
No
Yes
Yes
No
No
Yes
Tim Brown
Yes
Yes
Moot point
addressed
in #2
No
No
Yes
Yes
No
No
Yes
John Keen
Yes
No
comment
Yes
Yes
Yes
Yes
only in
the
Village
core
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
Kristen
Barneich
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
No
Yes
Yes
No
Agr
ee
with
HR
C
Yes
Caren Ray
Yes
Yes
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
No
Yes
Yes
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The HRC has made a recommendation that the Council allow the HRC to review all
discretionary projects within the D -2.4 overlay district and make a recommendation
directly to the decision making authority.
7. Better Coordination between the HRC and ARC
The HRC has made a recommendation that the Council encourage information
exchange between HRC and ARC on projects of mutual interest with a visiting
committee members not having voting rights.
8. Amend CEQA Guidelines
The HRC has made a recommendation that the Council not amend CEQA
guidelines.
9. Contract for a Historic Resource Survey
The HRC would like a Historic Resource Survey but is aware that the City has no
money.
10. Establishment of a Mills Act Program
The HRC was not presented with this option during their recommendation meeting
but individual members have discussed the merits of the Mills Act and have
expressed interest in encouraging the establishment of a program in past meetings.
The Commissioners made the following recommendation of potential changes to
Historic Resources Criteria listed above:
Case-No
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Action
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1. TUP 09 -019
Anne Agin
900 Wet Branch
Street
St. Patrick's Catholic
School Annual BBQ &
Auction
A.
J. Bergman
2. TUP 09 -020
Father Kenneth
Brown
501 Fair Oaks
Avenue 1221 E.
Grand Ave.
St. Patrick's Catholic
Church Annual Fiesta
A.
J. Bergman
PLANNING COMMISSION
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SEPTEMBER 15, 2009
V. REFERRAL ITEMS FOR COMMISSION ACTION /NOTICES OF
ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS SINCE SEPTEMBER 1, 2009:
The Commission had no comments /concerns.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
V. DISCUSSION ITEMS: None
VI. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS: None
VII. ACTING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND
FOLLOW -UP: None
VIII. ADJOURNMENT: The meeting was adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
ATTEST:
DEBBIE WEICHINGER,
SECRETARY TO THE COMMISSION
AS TO CONTENT:
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JIM
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DIRECTOR
(Approved at the October 6, 2009 meeting)
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CAREN RAYI CHAIR
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