PC Minutes 2007-08-071
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6:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER - The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session
with Doug Tait presiding; also present were Commissioners Barneich and Marshall;
Chair Ray and Commissioner Keen were absent. Staff members in attendance were
Community Development Director, Rob Strong, Associate Planner, Teresa McClish,
Assistant Planner, Jim Bergman, Planning Interns, Andy Di Girolamo and Jimmy
Paulding, and Public Works Engineer, Victor Devens.
ANNOUNCEMENTS: Commissioner Marshall made a motion, seconded by
Commissioner Barneich, to appoint Commissioner Tait as Acting Chair for this meeting.
The motion was approved on a 3/0 voice vote.
AGENDA REVIEW: Mr. Strong announced that the City Attorney advised staff that
since item III.C. (Historic Resource Committee criteria) will ultimately involve a
Development Code Amendment, it would be beneficial to hold a public hearing at the
Planning Commission level. Commissioners can allow for public testimony if anyone is
present, but it hasn't been advertised yet, and will be agendized for a subsequent
meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Commissioner Marshall made a motion, seconded by
Commissioner Tait to approve the minutes of July 17, 2007 as presented. The motion
was approved on a 2/0 voice vote; Commissioner Barneich abstaining due to her
absence at that meeting.
A. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None.
B. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
1. Letter dated August 1, 2007 from Jeanne Bromley regarding Large Family Daycare
Case No. 07 -002, (Administrative Decision #2).
2. Letter dated August 3, 2007 from Helen Patricia Yager regarding Large Family
Daycare Case No. 07 -002, (Administrative Decision #2).
Mr. Strong commented that normally no action is taken on notices of administrative
items. Unless commissioners want to appeal one for public hearing at the next meeting,
it would be finalized. Large Family Daycare (LFDC) operations are largely State
regulated and City discretion is somewhat limited. In regards to their parking concerns,
he suggested that Traffic Commission could consider permit parking in the
neighborhood or another alternate solution instead of denial of the LFDC permit.
II. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
A. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 07 -007; APPLICANT — RICHARD AND
LAURIE WALLER; LOCATION — 1098 HUASNA ROAD
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Assistant Planner, Jim Bergman, presented a proposal to allow a secondary dwelling
unit and an agricultural accessory building. The subject property is approximately 30
acres in size and is zoned Agriculture. In response to Commissioner questions, Mr.
Bergman stated the Fire Chief would like the access driveway (as referenced in
condition 7) to extend to the rear existing house; the turnaround is adjacent to the
accessory structure and secondary unit; it doesn't look like any riparian vegetation
exists that would need to be removed for the turnaround; and the secondary unit helps
promote generational succession, because it will allow the current owner's son to move
onto the property to assist with day to day property operations.
In response to Commissioner Tait, Mr. Devens stated that grading could direct
stormwater runoff toward the ag field, instead of towards the creek. It would filter the
water, and most likely percolate into the earth before reaching the fields.
In response to Commissioner Barneich, Mr. Devens stated that the applicant is required
to hook up to the sewer according to current City codes.
Acting Chair Tait opened the public hearing for comment.
Richard Waller, applicant, spoke in support of the project.
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In response to Mr. Waller's questions, Mr. Devens stated that the sewer connection is
based on a 250' distance from the main to the edge of the property line (not to the
house); there is sufficient depth (about 14'); the hydrant condition is required by the Fire
Department; and although there's one across the street, traffic would have to be
stopped on Huasna if fire hose were laid across the street in the event of emergency.
Acting Chair Tait closed the public hearing to comment.
Commission questions and comments.
Marshall
• Appropriate concerns have been identified and addressed.
• He supports adding the drainage condition for stormwater runoff.
Barneich
• The secondary unit and accessory structure are okay.
• She was concerned about proximity of the secondary unit to active ag
operations, but with underlying lot layout, this is a better alternative than other
options.
Tait
• Does Mr. Waller acknowledge awareness of the health risk of living this close to
an active ag operation? Mr. Waller replied yes, he grew up on the farm and
understands potential risks.
• With that acknowledgement and the code reference that an ag buffer is not
required, he can approve the project.
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• It's important to protect farmland. He's glad the family wants to continue
operations.
• The condition to route stormwater away from the creek and toward the ag fields
needs to be added.
Commissioner Barneich made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Marshall, to
approve Conditional Use Permit Case No. 07 -007, with the added condition that
drainage shall be directed to runoff toward the ag fields (and not towards the creek),
and adopt:
RESOLUTION 07 -2039
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 07 -007,
APPLIED FOR BY RICHARD AND LAURIE WALLER, LOCATED
AT 1098 HUASNA ROAD
The motion was approved on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Barneich, Marshall, Tait
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Ray and Keen
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7 day of August 2007.
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B. GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT CASE NO. 06 -003; DEVELOPMENT CODE
AMENDMENT CASE NO. 06 -005; APPLICANT — 1) CITY OF ARROYO
GRANDE: LOCATION IN THE VICINITY OF FAIR OAKS AVENUE AND SOUTH
HALCYON ROAD AND, 2) DAVID ROBASCIOTTI; LOCATION — VICINITY OF
SOUTH ELM STREET AND POPLAR STREET
Associate Planner, Teresa McClish presented a proposal by the City of Arroyo Grande to
1) change the land use designation and rezone five (5) properties along South Halcyon
Road (362; 370; 378; & 382 South Halcyon Road) and 906 Fair Oaks Avenue, from
Multi- family Very High Density Residential (MFVH - formally Senior Residential) to
Office Mixed Use (OMU) in order to bring the properties more in line with areas
immediately to the north and east and allow for medical office opportunity, and 2) a
proposal by David Robasciotti to change the land use designation and rezone thirteen
(13) properties on South Elm Street (160; 162; 166; 168; 170; 174; 178; 180; 186; 190;
194; & 198 So. Elm Street) and 1205 Poplar Street, from Medium Density Single- family
Residential to Medium -High Density Multi - Family Residential. State law has
requirements whereby if the City wants to accommodate downzoning in one area, that
they identify an opportunity to upzone elsewhere in the City. This would satisfy the
City's responsibility in providing that density citywide.
In response to Commissioner Barneich, Ms. McClish stated that no additional
correspondence has been received, though there have been a few phone and counter
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inquiries; Mr. Robasciotti owns only one of the Elm Street properties; and the zoning
west of the property facing Harloe School is zoned Multi - Family.
In response to Commissioner Tait, Ms. McClish stated that the increased density on
EIm Street was considered through the environmental review, but it's not significant
enough to trigger a traffic threshold (only six additional units at a maximum).
Acting Chair Tait opened the public hearing for comment.
Jack Scarborough, 166 S. EIm Street, voiced concerns about the project,
particularly in regards to traffic, parking, and eminent domain.
Shawn Lombardo, 193 Aspen St., voiced concerns about two -story buildings boxing in
her property. Ms. McClish stated that there could be a 2 -story single family residence
proposed now, so that potential is already there. There is a difference in the setback for
single vs. two -story buildings (10' vs. 15' respectively). The Viewshed Review process
is currently in place, so neighbors would be notified by mail of any proposals (as well as
any subdivisions). City Council will be reviewing the Viewshed Review process in the
next several months, and she could be added to a mailing list to receive the agenda for
that meeting.
David Robasciotti, applicant, spoke in support of the project, because it would allow him
to develop his lot similar to other infill currently going on in this neighborhood. The
changes should be considered for additional development opportunities, and to allow for
smaller dwellings for young families and seniors.
Acting Chair Tait closed the public hearing to comment.
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Commission comments:
Marshall
• The proposed changes are good, particularly in combining the downzoning with
upzoning for an overall balance for the City.
• The increased density on S. EIm Street seems modest, but should provide for
positive changes (like additional housing opportunities).
• There shouldn't be adverse affects that can't be handled by other current
processes like Viewshed Reviews and Subdivision Review.
o Would the setback requirements remain the same with rezoning? Yes,
except for Planned Unit Developments, which allow more flexibility in
design, but they would be noticed public hearings.
Barneich
• The zoning changes on S. EIm Street and Halcyon seem natural fits.
• She's concerned about the second lot in on Fair Oaks across from Harloe
School. It seems that would allow for commercial use too far down the block
toward existing residential areas. There could be additional commercial traffic
and it wouldn't be a good fit.
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Marshall
• He likes the dividing line down the middle of the block, but understands Ms.
Barneich's concerns. Perhaps the corner parcel could be combined with it to
provide for a horizontal mixed -use project similar to the one at The Pike and Elm,
and the far parcel could be remain strictly residential.
Tait
o Could the second lot be separated from the resolution? Ms. McClish
replied that staff is trying to keep zoning in balance. Technically, the Elm
Street upzoning could be separated out, but that would preclude the
rezoning in the vicinity of the hospital.
• He also understood Ms. Barneich's concerns, but his aren't strong enough to
make changes to the resolution as submitted.
• He agreed with most of the other commissioner comments, specifically that
public concerns will be addressed when a new project comes forward.
• He hopes this will help the hospital by allowing additional medical office space.
• The area on S. Elm is great for infill housing.
• In the environmental review, he's glad to see cultural concerns will be addressed.
• He's supportive of both changes.
Additional public comments:
Margaret Jones, 382 S. Halcyon Rd., spoke in support of the rezoning on Halcyon. She
suggested an easement road off of Fair Oaks to access new businesses.
Commissioner Marshall made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Tait, to
approve General Plan Amendment Case No. 06 -003 and Development Code
Amendment Case No. 06 -005
The motion was approved on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Marshall and Tait
NOES: Commissioner Barneich
ABSENT: Commissioners Ray and Keen
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7 day of August 2007.
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In response to Commissioner Marshall's question if that was enough votes to pass at
Planning Commission level, Mr. Strong replied technically, no, but he would forward the
information to Council.
(After the meeting, this vote was determined incomplete by the City Attorney. A
majority vote of the entire Commission [3 votes one way or the other] is
necessary to approve or deny General Plan Amendments.)
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III. NON - PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
A. ADMINISTRATIVE SIGN PERMIT CASE NO. 07 -017; APPLICANT —
ALBERTSON'S; LOCATION —1132 WEST BRANCH STREET
Planning Intern, Andy Di Girolamo, presented a staff report proposing changes to the
existing signage for Albertson's. He noted that ARC added conditions at their meeting of
August 6, 2007 stating that: the logo shall be reduced to 80% of proposed sign and the
Savon sign shall be moved to next wall plane for more frontage symmetry. In response
to commissioner questions, he stated that the reason for reducing the logo is that ARC
felt it was too large for the area, the logo accentuated the verticality of an otherwise
horizontal building, and the trimmed tree in the graphic was just a cutaway to show the
changes to the building.
Although this was not a public hearing, Acting Chair Tait opened the public hearing for
public comment, and seeing none, closed it.
The Commission had no further comments.
Commissioner Barneich made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Tait to approve
Administrative Sign Permit Case No. 07 -017 with the proposed conditions as
recommended by ARC.
For clarification, Commissioner Marshall stated that he didn't feel the size reduction was
necessary; the proposal is a big improvement over the existing sign; and if more
symmetry was necessary, the Savon sign could be moved to the opposite side of the
Albertson's logo to balance the Mid -State bank sign.
The motion was approved on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Barneich and Tait
NOES: Commissioner Marshall
ABSENT: Commissioners Ray and Keen
B. ADMINISTRATIVE SIGN PERMIT CASE NO. 07 -018; APPLICANT — GRYPHON
SOCIETY; LOCATION —1587B EL CAMINO REAL
Planning Intern, Jimmy Paulding, presented a staff report for consideration of
discretionary approval for a slight deviation from Development Code Section 16.60.040
for implementation of a third proposed sign at the above location. In response to
Commissioner Marshall, Mr. Paulding replied that ARC did not have to review this project.
Commissioner Comments:
• Commissioner Tait stated he didn't know these buildings even existed, so the
signage proposal seems appropriate.
• Commissioner Marshall stated that the sign sizes are appropriate and well- designed.
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Commissioner Marshall made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Barneich to
approve Administrative Sign Permit Case No. 07 -018 as submitted.
The motion was approved on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Barneich, Marshall and Tait
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Ray and Keen
IV. NOTICES OF ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS SINCE JULY 17, 2007:
The Commission had no comments on items 1 and 3.
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C. DISCUSSION ON HISTORIC RESOURCES COMMITTEE CRITERIA
There was no public in the audience to comment on this item. Per Mr. Strong's
announcement, Commissioners decided to hold their comments until the public hearing.
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1. PPR 07 -007
2. LFDC 07 -002
3. TUP 07 -014
K. Schultz
Kamber Doucette
Donna's Interiors
Address
1012 E. Grand
Ave.
265 N. Elm St.
1069 Grand Ave.
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Dance studio in existing commercial
building.
Large Family Daycare for
I nfant/toddlers
Annual Labor Day tent sale (furniture)
Action,
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T. Montgomery
J. Bergman
J. Paulding
Commission comments on item 2:
Marshall
• In response to his questions regarding State vs. City discretion and the written
concerns received, Mr. Strong stated the City may be able to implement a
resident parking permit program similar to the high school to address parking
concerns. However, concerns like neighborhood disturbance from kids playing in
the yard are regulated by the State. In addition, the City can condition that
residents park in the garage to allow for pickup /dropoff in the driveway spaces.
• Is there still time for the correspondents still file an appeal if they so wish? Yes.
Tait
• Can business employees (like Jack In The Box and Sunset Car Wash) park on
business property, instead of on- street? Mr. Strong replied the City could
attempt to informally contact the business owners /managers to request that; in
addition, there is substantial parking across the street at the Cookie Crock
center, which could be another option.
Barneich
• She takes her kids to Oceanview daily, and while difficult, it's not impossible to
find parking on Elm Street. It only takes five minutes to drop kids off and leave,
so it doesn't seem like there will be a big parking problem. Also, the school lets
out at 3pm, and most parents will pick up kids after work (closer to 5pm.) In
terms of the "tight -knit community ", the kids in daycare probably live in Arroyo
Grande and need help, as well.
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Marshall
• He used to live near a residential daycare, and there were more people coming
and going. Anyone can park on public streets. In this neighborhood, there's an
unusual concentration of people with challenging medical conditions. He
speculated it doesn't count for special consideration, but it does make the
decision harder. Noise will have to be addressed by current City standards.
Tait
• He agreed with Commissioner Marshall that they can condition it to be as
neighborhood friendly as possible, but he's not inclined to pull it for appeal at the
Commission level tonight.
Commissioners did not pull any of the administrative decisions for public hearing.
V. DISCUSSION ITEMS: None.
VI. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS: None.
VII. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND FOLLOW -UP:
None.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 7:45 p.m.
ATTEST:
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(Minutes approved at the PC me: ting of , 2007)
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