PC Minutes 2006-01-03CALL TO ORDER - The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with
Chair Brown presiding; also present were Commissioners Fellows, Parker and Ray;
Commissioner Tait was absent. Staff members in attendance were, Community
Development Director, Rob Strong, Associate Planner, Kelly Heffernon, Assistant Planners,
Jim Bergman and Ryan Foster, and Public Works Engineer, Victor Devens.
ANNOUNCEMENT: Request the public to turn off their cell phones during the meeting.
AGENDA REVIEW: No changes.
A. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: None.
MINUTES
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6:00 P.M.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Commissioner Fellows made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Parker to approve the
Minutes of December 6, 2005 with the following corrections:
Commissioner Ray:
• Regarding her previous request to clarify why Items II.A. and II.C. were removed
from the Agenda, she wanted it made clear that the City was not granting time
extensions in these specific cases; time extensions were not required.
• Page 6, first paragraph, should read "...Tract 577 should have no more than 27
lots "....
• Page 7, correct John Reynolds to John Runels (twice on same page).
Commissioner Fellows:
• Page 8, should state, "Commissioner Fellows returned to the meeting ".
• Page 10, last line should state, "...he asked what action the City is taking... ".
• Page 11, first paragraph, last sentence, remove the word sort just before
parenthesis.
The motion was approved by a 4/0 voice vote, Commissioner Tait being absent.
B. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
1. Letter re public hearing item II.A. on the Agenda, received December 27, 2005, from
Jim and RayAnn Crouse regarding Tentative Tract Map Case No. 05 -003 & Planned
Unit Development Case No. 05 -007.
2. Letter re public hearing item II.B. on the Agenda, received January 3, 2006, from
Michael Frederick, regarding Conditional Use Permit Case No. 05 -014.
C. REFERRAL ITEMS FOR COMMISSION ACTION
None.
II. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
A. VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP CASE NO. 05 -003 AND PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT CASE NO. 05 -007; APPLICANT — CCRED; REPRESENTATIVE —
JASON BLANKENSHIP; LOCATION — FAIR OAKS AVE (vacant lot east of the
hospital)
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Associate Planner, Kelly Heffernon, presented the staff report for Commission review of a
mixed -use development proposed in two phases on a 5.5 -acre site, located east of Arroyo
Grande Community Hospital on Fair Oaks Avenue. She stated that proposed Phase 1
includes thirty (30) 2 -story town homes and a half -acre common open space area. Phase 2
is tentative at this time, but conceptually includes up to 120,000 square feet of medical
office space with underground parking structure. The previous site plan reviewed by the
Planning Commission as a Pre - Application on August 2, 2005, discussion had focused
mainly on:
• Archeological impacts.
• Drainage to the creek.
• Tree removal.
• Pedestrian paths connecting the two uses.
• Agricultural buffer.
• Potential extension of Woodland Drive to the residential neighborhood to the north.
The applicant has made numerous changes to the project plans based on comments from
City Council, Planning Commission, Architectural Review Committee (ARC) and Staff
Advisory Committee (SAC).
Ms. Heffernon then described Phase I and Phase 2 of the proposed project; explained that
Phase 2 would be subject to separate discretionary and environmental review as design of
the commercial component (Phase 2) is tentative until the medical office Needs
Assessment can be conducted; Woodland Drive is proposed to be extended through the
site, separating the two uses; the internal private access driveway would be privately
maintained; the existing exercise trail would be enhanced and the City would continue to
maintain it. Ms. Heffernon continued further describing the common and private open
space and stated that the project meets other Planned Unit Development (PUD)
requirements and office mixed -use design standards; the ARC recommended that the
project be approved subject to a condition that the applicant return to the ARC with the final
building colors and materials prior to issuance of a building permit. In addition, Ms.
Heffernon discussed the Initial Study with the recommended mitigation measures and
explained the affordable housing requirement for the project.
In conclusion, Ms. Heffernon stated that staff recommends that the Commission consider
the information and mitigation measures contained in the proposed Mitigated Negative
Declaration (Phase 1 only) and if the environmental review is determined adequate, adopt a
Resolution approving the Vesting Tentative Tract Map and Planned Unit Development for
the project.
The following are highlights of questions asked by the Commission to help clarify their
understanding of information contained in the staff report, and additionally some suggested
changes:
• Will the exercise area remain public open space? Ms. Heffernon: There are two
definitions in the Development Code for Common Open Space and so it is unclear;
staff determined that it was part of the project as the applicant owns the land;
subsequently future residents will be partial owners of the recreational trail; the City
has the public easement over the property.
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• According to the map it shows that the open space is owned by individual owners,
but only on the back lot, how does this work? Ms. Heffernon: Staff assumed that
the public and all of the residents would share the recreational benefits; the City will
maintain the trail as the City has the easement.
• Is the creek and the riparian part of the common open space? Ms. Heffernon: The
creek and riparian area is shared open space; this part of the creek is owned by the
property owners; the applicant is required to do implement mitigation for enhancing
the riparian vegetation which would be maintained by the HOA; the City has an
easement for flood control (we are not supposed to get into the creek).
• Asked for clarification on common lot 31, and where it was defined on the map;
commented that it was difficult to define or calculate from the map: Ms. Heffernon
referred this question to the applicant's engineer.
• Lots 9 -15 look as if they encompass the road. Ms. Heffernon: They encompass the
private road /common driveway. Mr. Devens explained that an HOA or maintenance
agreement would take care of the maintenance.
• Does any of the drainage go into the sewer system or does it all go into the creek?
Mr. Devens: It is collected along an 8" storm drain line that runs parallel to the creek
and actually connects to an existing City line at the northeast corner of the project.
• Who would be responsible for testing the water run off for contamination? Mr.
Devens: It is not typical of a project to sample storm water run off after a
development; this would have to be a mitigation measure.
• How would the bio- swales work and how would they be set up? Mr. Devens: The
vegetation (normal lawn) would filter storm water into the ground.
• Is there parking on Woodland Drive? Mr. Devens: No parking would be allowed
along the western edge of the Woodland Drive extension until Phase 2 is developed
when it would be widened to 52 feet; parking is allowed along the east side; the
private interior road will be a fire lane and parking would not be allowed (the
applicant has proposed some guest spaces for parking).
• What percentage of the Woodland Drive project would go toward the Capital
Improvement Program? Mr. Devens: The applicant will pay a proportional share
toward the sanitation district trunk line upsize, at a later date.
• What are the improvements that the applicant will pay toward the intersection of Fair
Oaks and Woodland Drive? Mr. Devens: The applicant did the analysis for a traffic
signal and a four -way stop sign; however, the intersection did not meet the criteria so
just a stop sign on the north side of Fair Oaks on Woodland Drive extension will be
required; he then explained the criteria for a stop sign.
• There are conflicting times for construction activity in the conditions. Mr. Devens:
Public works limits times of construction activities requiring City inspections to the
City's normal business hours.
• Re Mitigation Measure (MM) 2.2: The Commission commented that this mitigation
may not be achieved and it is not viable to approve a Neg. Dec on something that
may not be achieved. Ms. Heffernon: This mitigation measure could be taken out
and put as a condition of approval and agreed that a buffer would then have to be in
place or eminent domain used.
• MM 3.16, sodium street lights (non glaring lights): Are these the least glaring? Mr.
Devens: These are the typical street lights normally installed throughout the City.
Ms. Heffernon: There will be a lighting plan; there will be low lighting on the
pedestrian walkway.
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• MM 4.3, this mitigation talks about grading into the creek; is there actual plans to cut
into the creek? Ms. Heffernon: This mitigation is based on discussions with Fish &
Game and related to the creek bank and the erosion at the outfall and corrugated
pipe.
• Page 20, sentence half way down paragraph, re California Red - legged frog; change
the word only to not, to make sense of this.
• MM 4.6, rock slope protection in the open space, 25 -foot setback riparian area,
should specifically refer to creek erosion. Ms. Heffernon: Agreed to add language to
state that, "Any invasion into the 25 -foot creek setback should not occur unless it is
to correct an erosion problem ".
• MM 4.10, why is a footpath to the creek being proposed? Ms. Heffernon: There is
already an informal path; this proposal is to direct people to an area where they
would not disturb riparian vegetation.
• MM 6.2, how will maintenance for the inline filter system work? Mr. Devens: The
inline filter system requires a check up just twice a year and vacuuming out if
necessary; maintenance would be taken care of by the City.
• MM 10.1, need to add the word pay.
• MM 14.4, need to clarify that the banks will only be stabilized where access to the
creek is designated.
• MM 14.6, re stockpiles of debris not being allowed to enter the creek: Ms.
Heffernon: Agreed that specific language should be added to state that this should
not be allowed in the riparian area (25 -foot creek setback).
• Ms. Heffernon confirmed that it was proposed that Woodland Drive would have
bollards at the end, removable only by emergency vehicles.
• Mr. Devens: Re the corrugated pipe, staff was confident that it could either be
repaired or the whole pipe replaced.
• Mr. Devens: The Woodland Drive decision is temporary and would have to be
looked at again with Phase 2.
• What is the City accepting as a Hospital Facilities Plan (Phase 2), and is the
Commission being asked to approve the residential (Phase 1), without knowing what
Phase 2 will consist of, or even if it will be acceptable. Mr. Strong: The Office Mixed
Use (OMU) district included the design overlay and CHW requested that this be
placed to protect future development; CHW have conducted sufficient study of their
hospital needs to co- applicant this proposal to reserve an option to purchase the
entire west half of the property on which they estimate 120,000 sq. ft. of medical
related facilities could be built; there is no definition of what a hospital facility plan
was expected to contain.
• Does the City have adequate manpower to carry out all of the mitigation measures
required? Mr. Strong: It is the City's responsibility to monitor most of the mitigation
measures; if there was inadequate staffing we would impose on the developer
sufficient information requirements that he could employ independent consultants
selected by the City to assist them in monitoring.
• Asked for clarification on where the storm drain drop - inlets are located on the plan.
Mr. Devens: Described how the drainage would work; pointed out that the applicant
is proposing some short retaining walls to increase elevations and maintain the
natural drainage pattern of the site while still being able to connect to an existing City
facility.
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• Mr. Devens: Fire lines would not be required on Phase 1, but would be required for
Phase 2.
• Clarification was requested on the open space statistics table on the plan. Ms.
Heffernon explained how the calculations were arrived at for common and private
open space.
• Clarification was requested on Table 16.36.020 for OMU Minimum Site Development
Standards. Ms. Heffernon: The density is established at the zoning level; the zoning
allows for 15 units per acre and what is proposed is 11 units per acre; the PUD
process allows deviation from minimum lot width and depth; what is proposed is
consistent with the Development and density etc.
• Re the Geo Solutions Report: Mr. Devens: Staff is satisfied that most of the seismic
induced settlements would be addressed by the recommendations; a standard
condition could be added that a soils engineer be present on site, during stripping of
surface materials; staff is satisfied that the sub drains and back drain systems should
not be an issue.
• Asked for clarification on why both bio swales and an in line filtration systems are
recommended and that this condition should clarify that both are proposed. Mr.
Devens: Stated the dimensions of the bio swale and that maintenance would
probably be taken care of by the individual property owners; this requirement could
be added to the CC &R's to make sure no alterations are made.
• Asked for wall height starting from Fair Oaks and up towards the corner of the
project. Mr. Devens: It is a consistent height of two feet all the way except along the
top of the project which varies in height.
8:00 p.m.
The Commission took a 10- minute break.
Chair Brown opened the public hearing for public comment.
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Chair Brown announced that Gary Young, applicant, had requested to speak after the public
comment so he could respond to any questions that would be asked. Chair Brown stated
although this was not the normal order due to the number of public present he would allow
this; if the public wishes to speak again after the applicant they can do so.
Bernard Landsman, 579 Newman Drive, lives near the creek, stated he has great concern
with the traffic issue; during a recent discussion with Chief TerBorch he had been told that
sometimes it is difficult to get emergency vehicles through Brisco; joining Woodland Drive to
Fair Oaks is absolutely dangerous from every point of view; in the past he had discovered
jaw bones near the creek (Chumash remains) and he knows this is an area of burial
grounds for Chumash Indians; he would be interested to find out how sensitive the applicant
is to this.
Bardhyll Nushi, 641 Cerro Vista Circle, stated he was disturbed by discrepancies between
this project and the pre - application project reviewed in August 2005; he represented many
of the neighbors present at the meeting; their main concerns were that the traffic study does
not take Woodland Drive and South Alpine into consideration and is barely noted in the
report; at present at least forty children walk past his house going to school to get to Fair
Oaks and cross the road without too much activity; with this project it could add 240 trips a
day; removable bollards will not work for the community; for safety, Woodland Drive should
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no go through and should not connect to South Alpine; a single swing gate with knox box for
emergency access in place of the bollards is preferred; the open space beyond the gate
could be used for a dog park and it would not be much for the City to maintain. The building
setback with pathway behind it will create a long alleyway; to avoid this it would be better to
increase the building setback to the edge of property line to create a buffer and make the
open space safer, especially for the children who walk through this area on a daily basis; at
the previous meeting the applicant had stated that the buffer between the townhouses and
the current asphalt trail would be 40 feet, now it is 6 -7 feet. There is also a concern that the
density of the residential subdivision is based on Phase 2, which does not have a plan;
Catholic Hospital West (CHW) has not indicated how they could use the square footage and
there is no justification at present to show that they could use 120,000 square feet of
medical offices. The applicant is using Woodland Drive as an excuse to split the project.
The parking for the additional square footage has not been addressed. In conclusion, Mr.
Nushi stated that most important for the neighborhood is the safety of the children; any
decision on Woodland Drive and any additional traffic studies should be done now by the
City and not when Phase 2 comes in.
Chair Brown asked for a show of hands from the public present who were in support of Mr.
Nushi's comments; a majority of the public agreed with his comments.
Denise McDade, Cerro Vista Circle, stated concern for the safety of children; there are no
sidewalks on the brand new homes on S. Alpine and half of S. Alpine has no sidewalks so
children are walking on the streets now.
Piper Adleman, 606 Cerro Vista Lane, stated children use the pathway to walk to school
everyday and he would not like to think of this as being enclosed; there were a lot more
neighbors who were present earlier who had to leave due to the late hour; his concerns
were the traffic issue because all the children are directed to go through the "health park"
and up to Halcyon to school; some of the congestion is caused by the fact that homes on
Alpine Street are all red curbed so no one can park; this area is one of the prime Chumash
burial sites in the county.
Paul Wellencamp, 653 Cerro Vista, South Alpine dead -ends into his driveway; when he first
moved in a motorcycle came around the corner and crashed into his garage and there has
also been another accident at the same site since; opening up Woodland Drive will increase
traffic coming from both directions and make the corner even more unsafe.
Robert Chapel, 646 Cerro Vista Circle (Trustee of property), stated concern with timing of
the hearing, it had been difficult to get information from the City due to the holidays; a staff
report for a project of this size should be available at least two weeks before a hearing. His
main concerns were that it is a bad example of City planning to open up Woodland Drive
and allow traffic from a multi family area through a single family neighborhood; a traffic
study should be done that addresses the impact of the cars from and to the development
before this proposal goes further; the view impact of these buildings will be tremendous, but
this could be mitigated if flat roofed buildings were designed; the runoff into the creek needs
to be addressed as there is already a flood issue; runoff from onsite should be contained
onsite; paths on the property always end up being taken over by the adjacent property
owners as they do not like the public walking through their property; this needs to be made
clear in planning process to enforce people from walking through back yards; it is bad
procedure to approve a project without seeing the whole project because the impacts
cannot be properly addressed; when there are so many items in the negative declaration it
should probably not have been so declared.
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Robert Berryhill, 629 Cerro Vista, concern with older homes on Alpine Street that have
single width driveways as they use on- street parking; adding traffic to this by having
Woodland Drive go through would cause Alpine and Cerro Vista Streets to become a traffic
hazard.
Debra West, 159 So. Alpine, stated concern with the loss of open space in an area that at
present is a very beautiful place to walk through; right now there is a separation between
residence and commercial and she is concerned with how this would affect the feel of the
neighborhood and change the nature of it.
Chet Williams, 649 Cerro Vista Circle; concern with children that go to high school that walk
the pathway every day; would like to see access go through the hospital area; like the
proposed area to go for a park and be dedicated to the Chumash and Mr. Greib; workshops
need to be done on projects like this to study it and to make a better community for our
children and for ourselves.
David Butz, 295 Halcyon, stated his concerns were the traffic issue; Toss of viewshed and
open space. This is a sensitive area for the Chumash and he would like to see how
developers would be able to do anything without avoiding this. Regarding the light, there is
zero cut -off lighting available.
Jim Crouse, works for utility company, stated presently there is no lighting in the path area
of the proposed project; a gate would be much better to stop traffic going through than
bollards.
Gabe West, neighborhood child, stated he and his friends use the pathway a lot for biking
and going to the elementary school and with all the extra traffic it would not be safe; he
hoped there would still be a small access to get to the creek.
Gary Young, 2815 Mesa, applicant, spoke at length giving the history of their project and it's
progress through the City. They had made the requested changes to the proposal after the
pre - application had gone through the SAC, ARC, Planning Commission and City Council.
He introduced the experts who were available to answer Commission questions:
• Lenny Grant, LGA, project architect
• Jim Burrows, Firma, landscape plan
• Jeremy Larney, Arborist
• Ken Chicone, Civil Engineer
• Gary Dillinger, Catholic Health Care West (CHW)
• Derek Rap, Penfield & Smith, Traffic Report
• Sherry Gust, CogSource Realty Management (digging and archeology report)
In reply to a question from Commissioner Ray regarding Mr. Nushi's comment on the buffer
between the houses and the asphalt trail, previously stated as 40 feet, he may have been
referring to the area between the townhouses and the wall.
In reply to a question from Chair Brown in regard to the different heights of the wall, Mr.
Young replied that it was probably due to the grading; his engineer could confirm this.
In reply to a question from Commissioner Parker, Mr. Young verified the width of the path
as being 12 feet.
In reply to a question from Commissioner Fellows, Mr. Young agreed that buildings 7 -11
would block pedestrian access to the creek.
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Lenny Grant, LGA, described recent similar projects the applicants had completed locally.
Chair Brown stated this project does not have enough parking due to the fact that there are
no driveways for parking and that guest parking spaces would be used instead and asked
Mr. Grant if there were any similar projects in the City with this parking. Mr. Grant stated
that the Stonecrest project had similar parking and explained that in order to get the density
and affordable housing it was necessary to design the project in this way. Chair Brown
stated a concern that after this project was developed it might be found that the parking
does not work.
In reply to a question from Chair Brown, Ken Chicone explained the grading of the project
and why there are so many retaining walls and why the height is six -foot in one area.
In reply to a comment from Commissioner Fellows, Mr. Grant said the ARC had not
requested materials samples; Mr. Young stated they could do this.
In reply to a question from Commissioner Ray, Mr. Young explained that one of the reasons
it is better for them to design with PUD's rather than condominiums is due to the high cost
of insurance for the project.
In reply to a request from Chair Brown, Mr. Young pointed out common Lot 31 and the
easement on the site plan.
Sherry Gust, archeologist, stated that the largest archeological site in Arroyo Grande area
(site 393) is situated entirely north of the proposed development; if the site development
does not go below five feet (there are probably artifacts below the five feet) there should be
no impact; there is property just above Newman Drive that is just pure midden (black dirt)
with chip stones, shells etc.
Mr. Landsman spoke again refuting the fact that there is black dirt on Newman Drive and
was concerned that Ms. Gust's comment that unless the ground is disturbed below five feet
there should be no concern.
10:00 p.m.
Commissioner Ray made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Fellows to continue the
meeting to 10:30 p.m. The motion passed on a 4/0 voice vote; Commissioner Tait being
absent.
The Commission took a 15- minute break.
Commissioner Fellows made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Ray to continue Item
II.C. and III.A. to the meeting of Feb 7, 2006; the motion passed by a 4/0 voice vote.
Chair Brown asked for the experts on various aspects of the project that were present, to
speak next.
In reply to a question from Chair Brown, asking about the potential number of trips going
toward Halcyon if bollards were not there, Mr. Rap, Penfield & Smith, stated that this was
not a part of Phase 1, so they had not got into this, but instead the traffic report provided
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figures for traffic projected toward Halcyon and going north; their general observations for
the cut through was that there would not be an extensive number of non -local traffic using it.
In reply to a question from Commissioner Parker, Mr. Rap stated that the analysis for the
build out included Phase 1, and Phase 1 & 2 separately; re Page 38 & 39
(recommendations to bring down LOS), most mitigations deal with Phase 2 and later
focused on Phase 1; Phase I added about 6% cumulative traffic.
In reply to a question from Chair Brown, Mr. Burrows, Firma, explained how they justified
the type and size of the Ag buffer included in their report; they had not yet completed the
mitigation measure 4.6 (riparian habitat and restoration plan). Chair Brown stated he had a
difficult time approving something they had not seen.
In reply to a question from Commissioner Parker, Mr. Burrows replied that the actual Ag
buffer footage between lot 30 and the agricultural land is less than 100 feet. Commissioner
Parker asked about runoff containment on site; stated she had a concern about runoff into
the creek, she did not have a lot of faith in the in line system, bio - swales are not 100 %. Mr.
Burrows said the bio - swales for light rains improves water quality before it goes into any
pipe or the creek; for heavy rains the inline system cleans it further and tests it.
Commissioner Fellows stated he would like to see an Ag buffer design based on the
Queensland Report in order to protect the farmers, the agricultural land and the residents of
any new homes. Regarding a letter from David Foot, Firma, re mitigation measures,
Commissioner Fellows asked for clarification re permeable paving for the parking bays,
down drains discharge, additional native ground covers to provide filtration and slow the
runoff; he also stated that there may be some controversy between the ARC's
recommendations for more trees and having a non - combustible fire break along the ag
buffers; use of recycled construction materials where ever possible was recommended.
In reply to Chair Brown, Mr. Young explained that maintenance of the bio - swales included
being mowed maybe twice a year and plant materials need to be kept moist; during summer
it will need to be irrigated.
Mr. Bardhyll spoke again and stated some of his questions had not been answered,
specifically regarding justification for the density of the housing and clarification of the
rearyard setbacks on the units. Chair Brown stated that the applicant was aware of his
concerns and they would be addressed.
Chair Brown closed the public hearing for public comment.
Commission comments:
Ray:
• Concern with allowing the creative solution for Phase 1 without seeing Phase 2.
• Not satisfied with the Traffic Study.
• Very concerned with the tunnel effect on the walkway and safety for the children.
• Not sure about Woodland Drive; will need a lot more information to make a decision.
• Uncomfortable with the information received from CHW, although they did not have
a chance to speak tonight and she would like to hear from them at the next meeting.
• Open space /common /maintenance /individual versus community issue is muddy and
needs to be cleared up.
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Fellows:
• The worst thing you can do to a neighborhood is to dump thru- traffic into streets that
were not built for this and where people have lived for years; Halcyon will become
like a freeway; he would do anything he could to keep traffic off South Alpine.
Brown:
• The staff report and applicant's discussion should include the definitions on this
project and define where the public open space and common open space lies and
how it was calculated, specifically in regards to the Vesting Tentative Tract Map.
• Commissioner Fellows's concern on the Ag buffer is a huge issue; how was the
buffer arrived at and how was it determined it to be appropriate; concern with open
space versus trees: there is probably a solution for this.
• Like to see other similar successful projects in Arroyo Grande; is not comfortable
that people will be required park in their garages because there are no driveways;
believes this is not human nature.
• Did not see a specific condition regarding affordable housing.
• Agreed with Commissioner Ray's concerns about being asked to accept a part of the
project on faith.
Parker:
• This project does not look like Office Mixed Use; it looks more like a PUD; would
rather see this coming in as a PUD in two phases.
• She would like to see a map that designates the distance between buildings etc; she
would like to see the wall and heights designated.
• She has concern with the walkway and the safety issue.
• Would like to see Plan B for the ag buffer on the northeast area; does not believe
eminent domain is the answer.
• Hazardous materials and run off into the creek is a big issue although bio- swales
and in line filters are a good start; wants to know for sure if there will be no
contaminants running into the creek.
• Like to see Fish & Game involved with the creek plan and for the walkway that goes
to the creek (to review chemical runoff).
• Does not like private ownership of public open space; also has concern with the
common open space designations.
• Would like to see footprint statistics corrected to show what the true lot coverages
are.
• Would like to know what will be addressed by the HOA and CC &R's.
• Has a problem with the parking; removing the front yard setbacks removes two
possible parking spaces; need to provide adequate parking somewhere.
Commissioner Ray made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Parker, to continue
discussion of the item to a special adjourned meeting, January 31, 2006, at 6:00 p.m.
B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 05 -014 & MINOR EXCEPTION 05 -001;
APPLICANT — CINGULAR WIRELESS; REPRESENTATIVE — GORDON BELL,
STRATEGIC REAL ESTATE SERVICES; LOCATION — 301 TRINITY AVENUE
Associate Planner, Kelly Heffernon presented the staff report to consider the proposed
construction of a 53' 11" tall -bell tower on an existing church to house panel
telecommunication antennas, and installation of a 12' (W) x 20' (L) x 10' (H) equipment
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Chair Brown opened the hearing for public comment.
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telecommunication antennas, and installation of a 12' (W) x 20' (L) x 10' (H) equipment
shelter. The SAC & ARC recommended approval of this Conditional Use Permit with the
addition of condition of approval No. 8, "The applicant shall submit different design
alternatives to the ARC for the bell tower facility for final approval ".
Commissioner Parker asked Ms. Heffernon, in regard to a letter received from Mr. Fredrick,
if he had received a staff report as this would answer many of his questions. Ms. Heffernon
stated she did not believe he had.
Chair Brown stated that he would like to see a more peaked look on the tower to match the
other steeple; he agreed with the ARC and would like to see the boxy look taken away.
Gorden Bell, representative, stated re the tower design, to achieve a peaked steeple design
on the tower the height would have to be increased by about four feet. Cingular is replacing
sites in the area that were lost when the merger with T- Mobile took place.
Chair Brown closed the public hearing for public comment.
Commissioner Parker stated she had no problems with the design and felt the Planning
Commission did not need to see this again.
Chair Brown agreed that it would be sufficient for it to go back to the ARC for review.
Commissioner Ray made a motion, seconded by Commissioner to Fellows, to approve the
Conditional Use Permit and Minor Exception 05 -001, and adopt:
RESOLUTION NO. 06 -1985
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO
05 -014 & MINOR USE PERMIT 05 -001, APPLIED FOR BY CINGULAR
WIRELESS; LOCATED AT 301 TRINITY AVENUE
The motion was approved on a 4/0 voice vote, Commissioner Tait being absent.
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 3rd day of January 2006.
IV.
A. NOTICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS SINCE DECEMBER 20, 2005:
Plot Plan Review 05 -023
Mr. Devens stated that when the improvement plans were done for this building a restaurant
use was not anticipated. A grease trap needs to be installed on the sewer lateral and this
Case No "
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Little Caesar's Pizza
1540 Grand
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Fast food restaurant and
patio seating.
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PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
JANUARY 3, 2006
Chair Brown opened the hearing for public comment.
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telecommunication antennas, and installation of a 12' (W) x 20' (L) x 10' (H) equipment
shelter. The SAC & ARC recommended approval of this Conditional Use Permit with the
addition of condition of approval No. 8, "The applicant shall submit different design
alternatives to the ARC for the bell tower facility for final approval ".
Commissioner Parker asked Ms. Heffernon, in regard to a letter received from Mr. Fredrick,
if he had received a staff report as this would answer many of his questions. Ms. Heffernon
stated she did not believe he had.
Chair Brown stated that he would like to see a more peaked look on the tower to match the
other steeple; he agreed with the ARC and would like to see the boxy look taken away.
Gorden Bell, representative, stated re the tower design, to achieve a peaked steeple design
on the tower the height would have to be increased by about four feet. Cingular is replacing
sites in the area that were lost when the merger with T- Mobile took place.
Chair Brown closed the public hearing for public comment.
Commissioner Parker stated she had no problems with the design and felt the Planning
Commission did not need to see this again.
Chair Brown agreed that it would be sufficient for it to go back to the ARC for review.
Commissioner Ray made a motion, seconded by Commissioner to Fellows, to approve the
Conditional Use Permit and Minor Exception 05 -001, and adopt:
RESOLUTION NO. 06 -1985
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO
05 -014 & MINOR USE PERMIT 05 -001, APPLIED FOR BY CINGULAR
WIRELESS; LOCATED AT 301 TRINITY AVENUE
The motion was approved on a 4/0 voice vote, Commissioner Tait being absent.
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 3rd day of January 2006.
IV.
A. NOTICE OF ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS SINCE DECEMBER 20, 2005:
Plot Plan Review 05 -023
Mr. Devens stated that when the improvement plans were done for this building a restaurant
use was not anticipated. A grease trap needs to be installed on the sewer lateral and this
PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
JANUARY 3, 2006
should be a condition of approval for the Plot Plan Review. Mr. Strong stated this request
would be taken care of.
V. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
Summary of Project Activity and Tentative Schedule for Commission Hearings. Due to the
late hour there was no discussion on this item.
VI. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS:
Mr. Devens handed out some information on fossil filters requested by Commissioner
Fellows for the Commission's information.
VII. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND FOLLOW -UP:
Mr. Strong stated that a memo will be sent out to property owners in Design Overlay areas
advising them of the alternative date for the workshop of February 16, 2006, for further
review of Development Code Amendment 04 -006 for residential districts.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 11:45 p.m.
ATTEST:
LYN REARDON -SMITH
SECRETARY TO THE COMMISSION
AS TO CONTENT:
COMMUNITY DEVELOPME T DIRECTOR
(Minutes approved at the special PC meeting of January 31, 20061
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TIM BROWN, CHAIR
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