PC Minutes 2004-09-07MINUTES
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE
PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 7, 2004 - 6:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER - The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session
with Chair Guthrie presiding; also present were Commissioners Arnold, Brown, Fowler
and Keen. Staff members in attendance were Community Development Director, Rob
Strong, Associate Planner, Kelly Heffernon, Assistant Planners, Ryan Foster and Jim
Bergman and Public Works Engineer, Victor Devens.
AGENDA REVIEW: Chair Guthrie announced that Public Hearing item III.C, VTTM
Case No. 01-001 and PUD 01-001 (Tract 1998) would be continued and re -noticed for a
future date. In addition, Mr. Strong stated that at the request of the applicant a pre -
application involving a 21 -lot development has been suspended. Staff has notified the
applicant that due to the time factors and certification of the EIR for the original project
in April 2004, we need to obtain their consent for continuance or take action on the
original project by October 13, 2004.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: The minutes of August 17, 2004 were approved on a
motion by Commissioner Brown, seconded by Commissioner Arnold, on a 5/0 voice
vote with two corrections:
• Page 5, comment by Commissioner Arnold: change "that there is a water
deficiency to "if there is a water deficiency determined".
• Page 7, comment by Commissioner Arnold: add wording after "Models should
be mandatory over a certain size or value.
I.A. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: Steve Ross, 211 Garden Street, stated re the
Kennedy/Sheppel parking lot rearrangement that it did not appear that much movement
was going on to improve the situation. Re the driveways he suggested closing the curb
break into Kennedy Fitness and if further development is to take place, a 40 foot right-
of-way be installed in the lower access with center median with one way in and one way
out.
B. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS:
1 Copy of email from Russell Reed, re Public Hearing item 111.6 — CUP 03-002, 447
Lierly Lane.
2. Letter from Henry & Sonja Bernard, re item II.A. Viewshed Review 04-014 listed
under Minor Use Permits — subject to 10 -day appeal period.
IIA MINOR USE PERMITS APPROVED SINCE AUGUST 3, 2004 - SUBJECT TO 10 -
DAY APPEAL:
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TUP 04-021
St. Patrick's School
900 W. Branch
42nd Annual BBQ/Auction.
J. Bergman
3.
MEX 04-007
Dan & Margaret
496 Coach Rd.
3 ft retaining wall with 4 ft
J. Bergman
McLean
fence on top of wall.
4.
VSR 04-014
Bob Montano
1470 Sierra Dr.
Second -story addition.
R. Foster
5.
PPR 04-
Amerigas
408 E. Branch
Installation of propane
J. Bergman
013
dispenser.
6.
PPR 04-
Check N Go
1411 Grand Ave.
New business.
J. Bergman
012
The Commissioners asked for clarification on MUP's Nos. 1, 4 and 6. After discussion
the Commission had no further concerns and Mr. Strong stated the Minor Use Permits
would be approved if there were no appeals after a ten-day appeal period.
III. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
A. LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT CASE NO. 04-002 & VARIANCE CASE NO. 04-003;
APPLICANT — FLOYD CHISM; LOCATION — VACANT LOT ON BRANCH
STREET.
Assistant Planner, Jim Bergman, presented the staff report for consideration of a Lot
Line Adjustment and Variance to allow the use of an underlying lot.
The Commission had a number of concerns regarding the setbacks, density issues and
the not being able to make the required findings.
Chair Guthrie opened the hearing to the public.
Floyd Chism, 268 West Branch, stated he only owns one of the two lots and did not
have jurisdiction over the other lot. The other lot with duplexes, is owned by his son.
Mr. Strong clarified further that there were originally three lots owned by one person and
that the Chism's bought the two lots in question.
Peggy Gainer, 248 W. Branch Street, stated concern that if a house and garage were
built it would obstruct their view; setbacks were a problem; there was a problem with
debris and rats and trash barrels in the alley; and asked what would happen when
Wilton Place is paved? She asked Mr. Chism what size the house would be? Mr.
Chism explained size of house and setbacks. Mr. Strong also stated the maximum
square footage of the house based on lot coverage and FAR.
Chair Guthrie closed the hearing to the public.
Commission Comments:
Brown:
• Concern for the number of variances being asked for.
• Concern for the density issue.
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• Concern with what future problems could be caused if this is approved.
• He suggested continuing the hearing and request more information.
Keen:
• Concern that this if this is granted how will finding No. 3 affect other requests in
the future.
• He had a problem with making the findings.
• Not in favor of having to make 7 variances to make the findings and that
sidewalk not be put in.
Fowler:
• There are two lots that need to be changed.
• Would this be consistent with the neighborhood.
• This corner is not attractive at present and this would improve the neighborhood.
• The density is an issue, but the City is looking for higher density and this would
not be much smaller than other sites in the Village.
Arnold:
• There was not enough information to be able to make a decision.
• Could be some benefits, but need to make the findings.
• Need to have better understanding of lot sizes in the area, like to have some
statistics.
• Lot 6 could become non -conforming as long as it is conditioned to become
conforming if any improvements are made in the future; lot 6 should be made as
conforming as possible to the neighborhood.
• Could not approve tonight; he would prefer to postpone the hearing on this and
receive additional information.
Guthrie:
• Owner of lot 6 should be here to request the variances on his lot.
• He could not make the variance findings.
• Need to do a survey and have an overlay area.
• This could be a PUD to make it work.
• He suggested that the hearing be continued or project be denied.
After discussion with the applicant and staff the Commission decided that it would be
more advantageous to the applicant to deny the proposal; this would allow the applicant
to appeal to City Council or return with more relevant information on the neighborhood.
Commission Brown made a motion, seconded by Chair Guthrie, to deny the Lot
Line Adjustment and Variance based on not being able to make the findings.
The motion was approved on the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioner Brown, Guthrie, Arnold, Fowler and Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
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B. CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 03-002; APPLICANT — TONY
JANOWICZ; LOCATION — 447 LIERLY LANE. (Continued item: This item was
previously considered by the Planning Commission at the meetings of December
16, 2003 and February 17, 2004.)
Assistant Planner, Jim Bergman presented the staff report for consideration of a
Conditional Use Permit to convert an existing 1,463 square foot house into a 1,012
square foot second residential dwelling. Mr. Bergman gave a proposed project recap:
• Reduce the size of the existing second house to 1,012 square feet.
• Fully sprinkle the second house.
• Provide a 20 -foot wide access, utility and drainage easement from the
southwest corner of the property, turning northeast between the two
residential units and to the northeastern property line.
In conclusion, Mr. Bergman explained that due to the applicant being unable to
negotiate an economically feasible access easement and widening of Lierly Lane, the
Fire Chief had agreed that if the existing residence is reduced in size and fully sprinkled
the existing 8-12 foot wide access driveway is sufficient to allow the structure to remain
as a secondary dwelling.
Staff answered Commission questions regarding the meters for 2nd residential units.
Chair Guthrie opened the hearing for public comment.
Tony Janowicz, applicant, stated he had lived in the property for 14 years and that he is
only wishing to improve the area. In reply to a question from Commissioner Brown Mr.
Janowicz stated that he would be willing to have single meters if required for approval.
Mr. Strong said the State may allow 2nd residential units to have separate meters in the
future.
Steve Ross, 211 Garden Street, spoke regarding tiered water rates and believed this
would penalize owners of 2nd residential units.
Chair Guthrie closed the hearing to the public.
Commission Comments:
Fowler:
• The applicant has worked hard trying to meet all the conditions and would ask
him to not change the meters.
Brown:
• If tiered water becomes reality make need to revisit this in the future.
Arnold:
• The applicant has done everything we asked for at the last meeting and he could
approve this.
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Keen:
• We should not be approving any 2"d residential units if the City is going to be
running short of water.
• No problem with separate meters on this lot as there is 114 feet between the two
structures.
Guthrie:
• The problem has been resolved with the fire issue.
• He did not have a problem with separate meters on this lot.
• Re the tiered water issue he believed there is a way to deal with this.
Commissioner Keen made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Arnold, to approve the
Conditional Use Permit with the condition that dual utilities would be acceptable, and
adopt:
RESOLUTION 04-1934
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE
NO. 03-002, LOCATED AT 447 LIERLY LANE, APPLIED FOR BY TONY
JANOWICZ
The motion was approved on the following roll call vote:
AYES:
Commissioners Keen, Arnold, Brown, Fowler and Chair Guthrie
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of September 2004.
C. VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP CASE NO. 01-001; APPLICANT — TAOS
HOLDING CORPORATION/CASTLEROCK DEVELOPMENT; LOCATION —
NEAR THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF INTERSECTION OF JAMES WAY AND
LA CANADA. Staff report prepared by Associate Planner, Teresa McClish.
Mr. Strong restated his comments from "Agenda Review" and recommended that the
Planning Commission not take action on the proposed project (as requested by the
applicant), and direct staff to re -notice the project analyzed under the Certified Revised
Final Subsequent EIR (RFSEIR) for the Planning Commission hearing of September 21,
2004; the applicant had suspended processing of the revised 21 -unit project that had
been duly noticed for consideration at this public hearing in a letter dated August 27,
2004.
Chair Guthrie opened the hearing to the public and hearing none closed it.
Commissioner Arnold made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Brown, to continue
the hearing on VTTM 01-001 and PUD 01-001 for a single residential subdivision of a
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26.6 -acre site into 21 single family lots and 1 open space parcel located at the northeast
corner of the intersection of James Way and La Canada, by Taos Holding
Corporation/Castlerock Development to a date uncertain.
The motion was approved on the following roll call vote:
AYES:
Commissioner Arnold, Brown, Fowler, Keen and Chair Guthrie
NOES:
None
ABSENT:
None
D. (CONTINUED ITEM) GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT CASE NO. 04-003 -
HOUSING ELEMENT; APPLICANT — CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE; LOCATION
— CITYWIDE.
Associate Planner, Kelly Heffernon, presented the staff report and stated that the
Planning Commission had considered proposed amendments to the 2003 Housing
Element on August 17, 2004 and continued the public hearing to September 7, 2004 for
final review and action. Ms. Heffernon described the 2004 Housing Element
amendments for HCD review. In conclusion Ms. Heffernon stated the HCD has
confirmed that:
• The City has shown that it has sufficient lower-income sites to accommodate its
Regional Housing Needs.
• With minor modifications as shown in Exhibit 'A' of the Resolution the document
will be fairly easy to certify (staff is awaiting written confirmation from the State to
verify this).
In reply to a question from the Commission, Ms. Heffernon stated that secondary units
are eligible to be counted as lower-income units as we now show in revised Table 15,
(there are 60 secondary units within the time frame of the Housing Element).
Chair Guthrie opened the hearing to the public and hearing none closed it.
The Commission had no further comments and thanked staff for a great job.
Commissioner Brown made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Fowler to
recommend approval of the General Plan Amendment and adopt:
RESOLUTION 04-1935
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING
COMMISSION RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT 04-003, AMENDING THE 2003 HOUSING ELEMENT OF
THE GENERAL PLAN
The motion was approved on the following roll call vote:
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AYES: Commissioners Brown, Fowler, Arnold and Chair Guthrie
NOES: Commissioner Keen
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of September 2004.
IV. NON-PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS:
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A. PRE -APPLICATION REVIEW CASE NO. 04-015; APPLICANT — HARVEST
BIBLE FELLOWSHIP; LOCATION — 124 W. BRANCH STREET. Staff report
prepared and presented by Assistant Planner — Ryan Foster.
Mr. Foster presented the staff report for review of a proposal to convert land use from
retail commercial (Amanda's Interiors) to public facility so that the existing building may
be used as a church.
Commission Questions:
Guthrie:
• Would is this building included in the Village Parking. Mr. Foster said it was not.
Keen:
• What is the required parking? Mr. Foster explained how the parking was
calculated.
Although this was not a public hearing item, Chair Guthrie opened the hearing to the
public and hearing none closed it.
Steve Henry, applicant, stated there are 26 spaces on site and they were in process of
acquiring a written agreement from Pankey Enterprises for additional spaces.
Commission Comments:
Brown:
• He would like to have information on hours of operation, peak hours of operation
and activities during the week when the proposal comes forward.
Keen:
• Asked about alternative parking areas. The applicant said they were looking at
other options for parking and believed there would be enough parking.
Guthrie:
• He had concern that Village Centre businesses would be agreeable to the
Sunday parking. Mr. Strong said this would be acceptable if the applicant can
secure an agreement for the additional parking that the Planning Commission
would be agreeable to.
• What is the current seating capacity of Amanda's? Mr. Henry stated about 280,
and there would be a formal agreement for the parking and hours of operation
etc.
• Has the issue of the parking triangle been resolved? Mr. Foster said he would
check this out and also the visibility issues.
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Fowler:
• What if the congregation grows? Mr. Henry stated they would have a second
service.
• Stated it would be wonderful if this were to become a church again.
Keen:
• Sprinkling the church building would be expensive. The applicant said they had
been offered some financial assistance for this.
The Commission had no further comments or concerns.
V. DISCUSSION ITEMS:
1. Appointment to the San Luis Obispo County Housing Trust Fund (HTF)
Commission to serve as an Alternate; to be selected by the Planning Commission.
After a short discussion the Commission agreed that Commissioner Brown should be
appointed to this position and Commissioner Brown agreed to serve as an Alternate.
VI. PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS:
In reply to a question from Commissioner Brown, Mr. Strong stated that the Traffic
Commission had not made a date -certain yet for discussion of the traffic report on Allen
Street.
In answer to a question from Chair Guthrie, Mr. Strong said that there has been some
interest by drug chains to locate in the Halcyon and Grand Avenue area.
Commissioner Keen stated that the pavers in the Gateway, pedestrian friendly area of
Grand Avenue are not wearing well and look really stained; the whole sidewalk looks
terrible; if these pavers are required there should be a product that does not strain. Mr.
Strong said he would check with Public Works to see if they had0 been sealed and what
the problem is.
In reply to a question from Commissioner Brown re mitigation for City trees, Mr. Strong
stated that the Parks and Recreation Department will be putting the mitigation and
maintenance of City trees on an agenda in the near future for discussion.
Commissioner Keen stated that there were two trees- at the corner of Courtland and
Grand Avenue in 48" containers (thought they had been temporarily planted) that had
been allowed to die.
VII. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND FOLLOW-UP:
Mr. Strong reminded the Commission that the joint meeting of City Council and Planning
Commission was confirmed for September 22, 2004 at 6:30 p.m.
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With respect to the memorandum from Public Works regarding Traffic Commission
comments on "skinny streets" Mr. Strong stated that the Planning Commission should
be the primary adviser re land use and circulation decisions and the Circulation Element
of the General Plan does need to be amended to reflect more relative street standards
of all types. Chair Guthrie recommended that that the Traffic Commission and Planning
Commission have a joint meeting for discussion of this item.
VIII. TENTATIVE AGENDA ITEMS FOR SEPTEMBER 21, 2004 MEETING:
No discussion.
IX. ADJOURNMENT:
The meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m. on a motion by Commissioner Guthrie,
seconded by Commissioner Brown.
ATTEST:
L N REARDON-SMITH, MES G THRIE, CHAIR
SECRETARY TO THE COMMISSION
AS TO CONTENT:____.___...
ROB"STRONG;
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
(Approved at PC meeting of 'T/Z12004)
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