PC Minutes 2002-09-031
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CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
SEPTEMBER 3, 2002
CALL TO ORDER - The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session
with Chair Costello presiding. Also present were Commissioners Brown, Fowler,
Guthrie, and Keen. Staff members in attendance were Community Development
Director, Rob Strong, Associate Planner, Kelly Heffernon, and Planning Intern, Ryan
Foster.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - The minutes of June 18 and August 6, 2002 were
unanimously approved with minor changes to the June 18 minutes.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS — None.
AGENDA REVIEW — The Commission agreed to hear the Non - Public Hearing items
first.
NON - PUBLIC HEARING — TIME EXTENSION CASE NO. 02 -002; APPLICANT — S &
S HOMES; LOCATION — 1189 EL CAMINO REAL. Staff report presented by Ryan
Foster.
Mr. Foster gave the presentation and asked the Commission to consider a request
for a Time Extension for Tract 2328, a 26 -unit Planned Unit Development.
Nan Fowler commented that Conditions of Approval, under 'Noise', relating to the
construction time does not reflect the correct times. Ryan Foster said he would
add the condition with current construction times to the Conditions of Approval.
PUBLIC COMMENT OPENED
Jack Hardy, representative, S & S Homes, stated they would not object to the
development impact fees.
PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED
The Commission discussed City Development Impact fees with staff and agreed
that the applicant should pay the fees as stated in Exhibit 'A' Condition No. 5.
Commissioner Keen made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Fowler, approving
Time Extension Case No. 02 -002 including amending Condition No. 5, Exhibit 'A',
to be consistent with current construction times and adopting:
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RESOLUTION 02 -1847
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING TIME EXTENSION 02-
002 FOR TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 2328 AND PLANNED UNIT
DEVELOPMENT 99 -001, LOCATED AT 1189 EL CAMINO REAL
The motion was approved with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Keen, Fowler, Brown, Guthrie and Chair Costello
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
The foregoing resolution was adopted this 3rd day of September 2002.
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TIME EXTENSION CASE NO. 02 -003; APPLICANT — BRUCE & MARGARET
SUMMERS; LOCATION — 1470 NEWPORT AVENUE. Staff report prepared and
presented by Ryan Hostetter.
Ms. Hostetter said this is the second time extension and the applicant may apply
for one additional one -year time extension for Vesting Tentative Parcel Map 99-
002.
Commissioner Guthrie made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Brown approving
the one -year Time Extension Case No. 02 -003, including Exhibit 'A' and adopt:
RESOLUTION 02 -1848
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING A ONE -YEAR TIME
EXTENSION FOR VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 99 -002,
LOCATED AT 1470 NEWPORT AVE., APPLIED FOR BY BRUCE
AND MARGARET SUMMERS.
The motion was approved with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Guthrie, Brown, Fowler, Keen, and Chair Costello
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
The foregoing resolution was adopted this 3rd day of September 2002.
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PUBLIC HEARING — AMENDED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 02 -003 &
VARIANCE CASE NO. 02 -004; APPLICANT — LARRY PERSONS; LOCATION —
1530 EAST GRAND AVENUE. Staff report prepared and presented by Kelly
Heffernon, Associate Planner.
Ms. Heffernon introduced the project and gave the Commission an update on this
previously approved project to construct a 108 -unit low and moderate income
senior apartment complex and stated that the applicant resubmitted their
application to the state for a 9% low income tax credit.
Ms. Heffernon further stated that the proposed amendments for Commission
consideration are that the six original buildings have been combined into two
buildings, there will be no fill imported to the site, a subterranean third floor is to be
created on the north section of the project, the 32 two - bedroom and 76 one -
bedroom units have been changed to 20 two - bedroom and 88 one - bedroom units.
The requested Variance is to deviate from Development Code standards for wall
height, building height and front setback. The proposed amendments are intended
to improve the usefulness of the courtyard, to provide better connection between
the buildings for the residents, to minimize the grade difference between the
commercial and residential uses and to improve the aesthetics by moving the stairs
internally, decreasing the overall building coverage by 8% and increasing the
landscaping by 8 %. The parking will also be increased by two additional spaces.
She then described the layout of the project.
Commissioner Brown:
• Would approval of the amendments set a new precedence for 40 -foot high,
3 -story buildings?
• Re a letter received from citizens regarding evacuation of the building, are
there enough ways of getting persons out of the second floor?
Rob Strong stated under certain circumstances it could be a beneficial precedent to
build up under planned circumstances than to have increased coverage.
Ms. Heffernon stated the buildings would be fully sprinkled.
Commissioner Fowler:
• The plans show heights of 33 feet, so why is the applicant asking for 40
feet?
Ms. Heffernon stated the applicant wanted design flexibility based on preliminary
plans and that is why they are asking for 40 feet.
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Commissioner Keen:
• He would prefer that the variance requests not all be lumped together as he
may not agree with some individual ones.
• He questioned why this project was being called an "amendment" as it had
been substantially changed?
Rob Strong:
• Alterations have been done to the building without specific changes to the
site plan and architecture.
• The amended application is treated the same as a new project for a
Conditional Use Permit.
• The development agreement considered by Council still applies.
• The objectives of the applicant are still the same.
• The location and composition of the project is very similar.
PUBLIC COMMENT OPENED
Larry Persons, Pacific Harbor Homes, stated that the primary reasons for the
redesign were that City Council conditioned the project to have elevators for 100%
of the units above the first floor. The original design had garden apartments with
walkways up each side of the units and there was no connection from one side to
the other: it would have required 10 elevators to service the units. He then
displayed a 3- dimensional model of the revised project, explaining in detail the
grading and how residents would access the building using 2 elevators and internal
stairs.
Commissioner Brown asked for more explanation on the building height as
mentioned previously by Commissioner's Fowler and Keen, with respect to the 33
feet versus 40 feet.
Larry Persons replied that when they had completed the preliminary elevations they
came out to 33 feet and they would like a couple of feet leeway. On the
application they had originally requested 40 -feet which is not necessary, but they
would like some flexibility.
In reply to a questions from Commissioner Fowler regarding the distance between
parking and the units, Mr. Persons explained that the units in the 3 -story building
bottom floor have a raised foundation behind them and each have one door and
windows on their front side. If a resident did not wish to walk up any stairs when
entering the building they could use the elevators.
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John Knight, RRM, explained the reasons for each of the requested variances.
Commissioner Fowler asked for clarification on how much linear distance of the
retaining wall would be the height of 8 feet. In addition she suggested that some
stakes be put up to show the height of the buildings so potential Grover Beach
residents and Arroyo Grande neighbors would be aware of this. She said she had
no problem with the front setback because she thought it would look better than a
blank wall and she had no problem with a 35 -foot building height but did not think
it should be 40 -feet.
Mr. Knight said the majority of the wall is 7 -feet and there is approximately 6 -8
linear feet that will be 8 -feet.
Commissioner Keen
• The new project design was far superior to the original.
• He asked for clarification on the setbacks.
Mr. Persons stated the measurements were figured from the property line.
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Commissioner Keen said then he had no problem with this. He further stated that
the explanation from Mr. Knight on the other variances had answered his concerns.
Chair Costello asked for clarification on the amount of bicycle parking spaces.
Staff said the spaces were assigned for both commercial and residential.
PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED
Commissioner Brown said he had no problem with the amendments except he
would like the building height to be kept at no more than necessary (33 or 34 feet).
Commissioner Fowler said she had no further comments or concerns.
Commissioner Keen commented he would like to see the building height more
precisely specified. He further stated that he now found all the variances
acceptable, but he did not agree with the criteria for the findings as stated by the
applicant. He thought the findings for the variances could stand - alone.
Commissioner Guthrie said he believed the building height concern had been
addressed and he had no problem with allowing 35 -feet as long as it is internal to
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the site. He commented that the amendments made the project superior to the
original.
The Commissioners then discussed the building height. Chair Costello reminded
the Commissioners that an exception above the 30 feet or two -story building
would be a precedent.
Commissioner Brown made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Keen, to
recommend City Council approve Amended Conditional Use permit Case No. 02-
003 including Exhibit 'A', with a condition that the building height be 34%2 -feet and
that all language in the findings for the conditions for approval consistently state
that 100% of the units be for affordable housing and adopt:
RESOLUTION 02 -1849
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
APPROVE AMENDED CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 02 -003,
LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF EAST GRAND AVENUE
AND COURTLAND STREET, APPLIED FOR BY LARRY PERSONS
Commission Discussion:
Commissioner Keen asked the applicant if bicycle parking was normally requested
for senior residential projects.
Mr. Persons said it was not, but that the bicycle parking was for the commercial as
well as residential part of the project.
Commissioner Guthrie stated he believed a building height exception of 35 -feet
should be allowed because it was internal. Commissioner Fowler agreed with
Commissioner Guthrie. Commissioner Keen did not agree because allowing the 35-
feet height would be setting a precedent for future projects and Commissioner
Brown agreed with him.
The motion was approved with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Brown, Keen, Fowler and Chair Costello
NOES: Commissioner Guthrie
ABSENT: None
The foregoing resolution was adopted this 3rd day of September 2002.
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Commissioner Brown made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Keen, that the
Planning Commission recommend to City Council approval of Variance Case No.
02 -004 to deviate from Development Code Requirements for wall height, front yard
setback and building height, with amendment to Exhibit 'A' Condition 'C' that the
building height be 34 -%2 feet, and that all language in the findings for the
conditions for approval reflect that 100% of the units be affordable housing and
adopt:
RESOLUTION 02 -1850
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING
COMMISSION RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE
VARIANCE CASE NO. 02 -004 TO DEVIATE FROM DEVELOPMENT
CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR WALL HEIGHT, FRONT YARD SETBACK
AND BUILDING HEIGHT, LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER
OF EAST GRAND AVENUE AND COURTLAND STREET, APPLIED FOR
BY LARRY PERSONS
The motion was approved with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Brown, Keen, Fowler, Guthrie and Chair Costello
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
The foregoing resolution was adopted this 3rd day of September 2002.
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DISCUSSION ITEMS — Rob Strong gave the Planning Commission an update on
Viewshed Review 02 -013 for a 2 -story building at 135 Tally Ho. He stated that
because there are inconsistencies in the Development Code that relate to the
viewshed review process versus new construction he felt this case should be
considered by the Commission.
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS — Commissioner Keen
commented on the news of the State legislature's position on Granny flats.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND FOLLOW -UP — Rob
Strong said there have been some applicants to participate in the Local Housing
Task Force and the next step will be for the Commission to make recommendations
to City Council.
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ADJOURNMENT -There being no further business before the Commission, the
meeting was adjourned at 9:15 P.M. on a motion by Chair Costello, seconded by
Commissioner Fowler, and unanimously carried.
ATTEST:
LYN REARDON- SMITH,
COMMISSION CLERK
AS TO Jo NTE
ROB STRONG,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
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JOSEPH M. COSTELLO, CHAIR
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