PC Minutes 2002-07-16MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
JULY 16, 2002
CALL TO ORDER - The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session
with Vice Chair Keen presiding; also present were Commissioner's Fowler and
Guthrie. Chair Costello and Commissioner Brown were absent. Staff members in
attendance were Planning Intern, Ryan Foster, Community Development Director,
Rob Strong and Public Works, Associate Engineer, Rodger Olds.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - None
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
AGENDA REVIEW - No changes in the agenda.
PUBLIC HEARING — PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM CASE NO. 02 -002; APPLICANT —
A.G. EDWARDS & SONS, INC. AND VIGNETO RESTAURANT; LOCATION —
RANCHO PARKWAY, FIVE CITIES CENTER, PHASE II. Staff report prepared and
presented by Ryan Foster.
Ryan Foster described the project and informed the Commission that the ARC, at
the July 1, 2002 meeting, found the signs to be consistent with the existing
Planned Sign Program (PSP) and that the requested placement of all signs was
consistent with the PSP definition of frontage. A.G. Edwards & Sons, Inc. would
get an additional frontage sign and the Vigneto Restaurant would get two
additional frontages signs.
Ryan Foster answered Commissioner Guthrie's question saying that the approved
Planned Sign Program for the Five Cities Center differs from the Development Code
in that it is more restrictive.
Commissioner Keen questioned if the Planned Sign Program is amended for
buildings 'L' & 'M' will these same amendments also apply to future new buildings
in the center. Mr. Foster said if any changes were requested in the future on any
new buildings an amendment to the Five Cities PSP would have to be processed.
The business owners came forward to answer questions. The Planning
Commission at that time they had no questions for either Vigneto Restaurant or
A.G. Edwards & Sons, Inc.
Nan Fowler commented that signs are very important to attract business, she liked
the signs and that it was reasonable to have signage on three major frontages.
Commissioner Guthrie had no concerns with the proposed signage stating that the
signs were very reasonable considering the amount of frontage available and he
could support this sign program.
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Commissioner Keen agreed with Commissioner Guthrie stating that according to
the calculations for the Planned Sign Program the signs could have been much
larger. He asked if all the wires sticking out around the Edwards building were for
light fixtures; he had noticed them when he went to view the building, but had not
seen them on the drawings. Mr. Alpardo, owner, replied that these were flexes for
light fixtures that would shine up to awnings around the perimeter of the building;
there would also be recessed channels for lighting to shine down. Commissioner
Keen had a concern that other buildings in the center may want signs on the back
of their buildings facing the freeway and he would not like to see this happen.
Commissioner Guthrie made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Fowler, to
recommend that City Council approve the Planned Sign Program Case No. 02 -002
and adopt resolution:
RESOLUTION NO. 02 -1843
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
APPROVE PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM CASE NO. 02 -002, APPLIED
FOR BY SIGNTECH, FOR BUILDINGS 'L' AND 'M', LOCATED IN THE
FIVE CITIES CENTER
The motion was approved with the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioner's Fowler, Guthrie, and Vice Chair Keen
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner's Brown and Costello
The foregoing resolution was adopted this 16th day of July 2002.
PUBLIC HEARING - PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT CASE NO. 02 -002 &
VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP CASE NO. 02 -001; APPLICANT - ANTHONY
TOSTE; LOCATION - 1060 MAPLE STREET
The applicant had requested the item be continued to the meeting of August 6,
2002.
Commissioner Guthrie made a motion, seconded by Commissioner Fowler, to
continue Planned Unit Development Case No. 02 -002 & Vesting Tentative Parcel
Map Case No. 02 -001 to the August 6, 2002 meeting.
The motion was unanimously approved by a 3/0 voice vote.
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NON - PUBLIC HEARING - PRE - APPLICATION CASE NO. 02 -007; APPLICANT -
LAWRENCE VENTRESCA & SHARON CLARK; LOCATION - 1171 SUNSET DRIVE.
Staff report prepared and presented by Ryan Foster.
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Mr. Foster described the proposed project stating that currently the lot is drawn as
a flag lot, but after averaging out neighboring lots it had been established that two
longer narrower lots might be more appropriate. Staff has a concern with the
density because of the way the current Development Code standards are
calculated. Alternative ways to get the density bonus would be to dedicate one of
the units as an affordable housing unit or payment of an in -lieu fee for affordable
housing.
In answer to Commissioner Guthrie's question Mr. Foster said the narrowest lot in
the area is about 42 feet; there are several that are 52 feet and directly across the
street the lots are 57 and 70 feet wide.
Lawrence Ventresca & Sharon Clark, applicants, said they would like more
information on the cost of the alternatives.
Ryan Foster explained in more detail what is meant by density bonuses and low -
income- housing. He stated that the City is in the process of re- writing the actual
agreements that would be satisfactory to the City and the banks for affordable
housing units.
Cecila Hinds, 324 Short Street, one of the five owners of the homes, asked
whether the old structure or the new structure would qualify for the low income?
Commissioner Keen replied that either structure could qualify.
Commissioner Guthrie said he thought it would be much wiser to split the lot
lengthwise based on the narrow width of the, other lots in the neighborhood and
the fact that there are no other flag Tots in the neighborhood. He stated that in this
case in -lieu fees would be most applicable, but he was not sure how the fees could
be assessed. Mr. Strong said that staff had discussed this issue and had
concluded that in a case such as this if a density bonus is being requested the
equivalent of an in -lieu fee (3% of construction value) could be asked for in
addition to the 3% affordable housing fee assessed for new development; staff
would like to get some guidance from the Planning Commission as to whether this
would be equitable.
The Commission and staff then further discussed at some length affordable housing
units and how they should be assessed.
Commissioner Fowler stated that she would like to see the lot divided into two
narrow lots so the Oak tree could be saved and less cement would be required; an
in -lieu fee would be better than a deed restriction.
Commissioner Keen had a concern with flag Tots because of fire and stated a flag
lot home would have to be sprinkled, shared drives can become a nuisance and the
oak tree would be difficult to work around. A one -lot subdivision with a house
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already on it does not seem fair, but dividing the lot into two smaller Tots creates
more affordable housing.
Commissioner Guthrie said he could not support a flag lot at all as opposed to
splitting the lot.
Mr. Ventresca stated they would prefer to split the lot into two smaller lots and
wanted the Commission to know that they have plans to revamp the existing home
to make it more desirable to the neighborhood.
The Commission had no other comments or concerns.
DISCUSSION ITEMS - Rob Strong discussed a request from Castlerock
Development for Minor Exceptions to allow an increase in square footage at 521
and 529 Sombrillo, Tract 1834. The Planning Commission had no concerns with
the 50 sq. ft. increase in floor- area -ratio on the 3,000 and 4,000 sq. ft. homes.
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS - None
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND FOLLOW -UP - Rob
Strong said he had received a Draft EIR and Comment for Biddle Ranch Agricultural
Cluster Subdivision project. He distributed a memo, project description and
summary of Project Environmental Impacts, Mitigation Measures and Residual
Impacts for Commission review and comment at their August 6, 2002 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT -There being no further business before the Commission, the
meeting was adjourned at 8:20 p.m. on a motion by vice Chair Keen, seconded by
Commissioner Fowler, and unanimously carried.
ATTEST:
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LYN REARDON- SMITH,
COMMISSION CLERK
ROB STRONG,
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
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