PC Minutes 2001-12-041
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CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE
PLANNING COMMISSION
DECEMBER 4, 2001
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Costello called the regular Planning Commission meeting of the City of Arroyo
Grande to order at 7:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
X Commissioner Brown
Absent Commissioner Fowler
X Commissioner Guthrie
X Vice -Chair Keen
X Chair Costello
APPROVAL OF MINUTES -None.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS -None.
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
1 Memo from D. M. Lowry, 237 Miller Way, regarding Conditional Use Permit 01 -009 for
the proposed Bed & Breakfast at 212 Miller Way stating not in favor of the Bed &
Breakfast.
2. Color pictures of the B & B at 212 Miller Way.
3. Memo from residents at 262 Miller Circle, 219 Miller Way, and 206 Miller Way stating
they were in favor of the Bed & Breakfast at 212 Miller Way (received after written
communications distributed).
(Items are in the order they were recorded)
NON PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
TIME EXTENSION 01 -004; APPLICANT - ZADDIE R. BUNKER TRUST; LOCATION - 410
SOUTH ELM STREET
Teresa McClish, Associate Planner, said this is a request for a one -year time extension for
Tentative Tract Map 2240. This is for a site located at 410 South Elm Street that divided
a 40,000 square foot parcel into nine lots. This Tentative Tract Map was first approved in
1997 and there have been two earlier Time Extensions for this site.
Commissioner Guthrie asked if grading could start on a project before the tract map is
approved?
Ms. McClish said they can start off -site improvements and related improvements on -site.
Rodger Olds, Public Works, said the applicant is putting in all the public improvements, but
they will not be able to have a building permit before their map is recorded.
Commissioner Brown moved that the Planning Commission adopt:
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X Chair Costello
RESOLUTION 01 -1811
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING A ONE -YEAR TIME EXTENSION FOR
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP CASE NO. 2240 FOR A NINE PARCEL
SUBDIVISION, LOCATED AT 410 SOUTH ELM STREET, APPLIED
FOR BY ZADDIE R. BUNKER TRUST
Commissioner Guthrie seconded the motion. The motion was approved by the following
roll call vote:
ROLL CALL
X Commissioner Brown
Absent Commissioner Fowler
X Commissioner Guthrie
X Vice -Chair Keen
TIME EXTENSION CASE NO. 01 -002; APPLICANT - ORIN COCKS; LOCATION - 1196
GRAND AVE
Teresa McClish, Associate Planner, said this is a one -year time extension for Tentative
Parcel Map Case No. 99 -005 for a condominium subdivision, splitting one office into two
offices having 1000 square feet and 460 square feet each. This is the first one -year time
extension.
The Planning Commission found that all of the circumstances under which this extension
could be granted had been met.
Commissioner Guthrie moved that the Planning Commission adopt:
RESOLUTION NO. 01 -1809
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING A ONE -YEAR TIME EXTENSION FOR
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP CASE NO. 99 -005, LOCATED ON 1196 A
AND 1196 B GRAND AVENUE APPLIED FOR BY ORIN B. COCKS
including Exhibit "A ". Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. The motion was
approved by the following roll call vote:
ROLL CALL
X _ Commissioner Brown
Absent Commissioner Fowler
X Commissioner Guthrie
X Vice -Chair Keen
X Chair Costello
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TIME EXTENSION 01 -003; APPLICANT — CASTLEROCK DEVELOPMENT; LOCATION —
TRACT 2306, SOUTH ALPINE STREET
Teresa McClish, Associate Planner, stated that this property is located on the south side of
South Alpine Street, between Cerro Vista Lane and Cerro Vista Circle and was purchased
by Castlerock Development last year. The Planning Commission approved the Tentative
Parcel Map in 1999 and there has been one previous Time Extension. There have been no
changes in the codes or the character of the area that would effect this project.
Commissioner Keen asked if the applicant was aware of the Chumash findings?
Ms. McClish said they were.
Commissioner Guthrie moved that the Planning Commission adopt:
RESOLUTION 01 -1810
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING A ONE -YEAR TIME EXTENSION FOR
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 2306, LOCATED ON THE WEST SIDE OF
SOUTH ALPINE STREET BETWEEN CERRO VISTA LANE AND CERRO
VISTA CIRCLE APPLIED FOR BY CASTLEROCK DEVELOPMENT
including Exhibit "A ". Commissioner Brown seconded the motion. The motion was
approved by the following roll call vote:
ROLL CALL
X _ Commissioner Brown
Absent Commissioner Fowler
X Commissioner Guthrie
X Vice -Chair Keen
X Chair Costello
PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS
Commissioner Guthrie asked if the Architectural Review Committee (ARC) was aware of
the proposed changes to the landscaping, with respect to the proposed cellular tower at
the Methodist Camp, and how this would affect the camouflaging of the storage tanks that
are to be replaced; the notes of the ARC meeting did not include knowledge of this.
Kelly Heffernon said the ARC was aware of this issue and they had requested the applicant
return with a more detailed landscape plan.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND FOLLOW -UP REPORTS
Rob Strong gave a progress report on the consultants agreements preparing for the EIR for
Rancho Grande /LaCanada, Castlerock Development (former site of Tract 1998), and the
Creekside Center.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 01 -009; APPLICANT — TERRY FOWLER; LOCATION — 212
MILLER WAY
Kelly Heffernon, Associate Planner, stated the applicant is proposing a three -room bed and
breakfast within an existing 2,800 square foot, 4 -bed and 3 -bath single - family residence.
No structural modifications to the house are proposed, and the applicant would continue to
reside in the residence.
The Development Code has specific operational standards for Bed and Breakfast facilities,
such as limitations on length of guest stays and when meals can be served. The
Development Code also requires 1 parking space for each guestroom for a total of 3
additional parking spaces, which are provided in a combination of 1 space in the detached
3 -car garage and 2 spaces in the circular driveway. Traffic is not expected to be an issue
since there would not be more tenants than what a typical 4- bedroom household could
accommodate.
Per the Development Code, the proposed sign is not internally illuminated and does not
display the words "hotel ", "motel ", or "Bed & Breakfast ". The applicant proposes a
ground sign that is 6 square feet in size, displays the words "Grandview Manor Guest
House ", and uses muted colors of mauve and gray. The sign hangs from a 6 -foot high
wood post painted white. There are no specific Development Code requirements for the
size, height color or text of signs for Bed & Breakfasts, so these features are to be
determined through the CUP process.
Letters received from neighboring property owners suggest there are existing sight
distance problems along Miller Way, especially when pulling out of driveways, and a
general concern about guests of the Bed & Breakfast parking on the street and aggravating
the situation. If it is the desire of the Planning Commission, a Condition of Approval could
be added prohibiting any guest parking on the street.
Commissioner Brown asked for clarification on the General Plan designation /zoning for this
area.
Ms. Heffernon said the new land use designation per the General Plan update for the whole
area is medium density, but the existing density is low density because that was the
previous land use designation and what was constructed.
Commissioner Brown asked if the width of Miller Way is the standard width for a City
street?
Staff said they were not certain about the width of Miller Way.
Commissioner Brown spoke asking if it would be acceptable for the residents to park on
the street in order to allow guests to park in the driveway?
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Ms. Heffernon said currently the applicant does not park on the street, in order to
accommodate her neighbors, because the street is extremely steep making it difficult to
maneuver around parked vehicles.
Commission Brown asked if the room above the garage was plumbed and if it had
electricity?
Ms. Heffernon said currently the room above the garage is not a second residence and only
has a building permit for a workshop.
There was a discussion on the section of sidewalk already on the property and whether
more sidewalk should be installed.
Rodger Olds, Public Works, said it is the opinion of Public Works that sidewalks would not
be well placed on either side of Miller Way.
PUBLIC HEARING COMMENTS
John R. McGrath, 273 Miller Way, spoke saying that he was not in favor of the Bed and
Breakfast because it would increase the dangers already present on the street due to the
steepness of the hill, parking problems, and difficulty of vision when exiting driveways.
Terry Fowler, applicant, spoke at length, describing past and present uses of her driveway.
Ms. Fowler said her property is not on top of the hill and there is no visual obstruction
from the driveway. Ms. Fowler said visitors never park on the street, and if they do, I ask
them to move into the driveway.
PUBLIC COMMENT CLOSED
The Planning Commission had further questions regarding the parking, exiting and entering
the driveway for residents and guests.
Rob Strong, Community Development Director, stated that it was previously emphasized at
the Staff Advisory Committee meeting that the parking space within the front yard cannot
be used, and that the site plan is incorrect.
In conclusion the Planning Commission said they thought the Bed and Breakfast would be a
nice addition to the neighborhood, but did not see how the parking would work very well.
They had concerns with safety issues regarding the parking and entering and exiting the
property.
The applicant was requested to return with pictures and a site plan showing clarification of
the proposed parking for guests.
Commissioner Keen made a motion to adjourn and continue the item to the meeting of
January 15, 2002; the motion was seconded by Commissioner Guthrie and unanimously
approved with a 4/0 voice vote.
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ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 8: 30 p.m.
ATTEST:
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Lyeardon- Smith, Commission Clerk
AS TO C I LATENT:
Rob Strong,
Community Development Dir: ctor
eph Costello, Chair
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