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CALL TO ORDER
Chair Greene called the regular meeting of the Planning Commission of the
City of Arroyo Grande to order at 7:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
X Commissioner Costello
X Commissioner Keen
X Commissioner London
Absent Vice -Chair Parker
X Chair Greene
MINUTE APPROVAL
On motion of Commissioner Keen, seconded by Commissioner London, and by a
unanimous roll call vote, the minutes of September 7, 1999 were approved as
written.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
None
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
1. Written comments received in the Community Development Department on the
Village Glen Annexation EIR.
2. Written comments received in the Community Development Department on the
Arroyo Linda Specific Plan EIR.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
A. ARROYO LINDA SPECIFIC PLAN - DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT;
PROJECT LOCATION - SOUTH EAST PORTION OF ARROYO GRANDE WITH 107
ACRES INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS AND 185 ACRES IN UNINCORPORATED
COUNTY AREA; APPLICANT - MICHAEL FREDERICK.
Kerry McCants, Community Development Director stated that this is a continued
hearing to receive comments on the Draft EIR for the Arroyo Linda project. He
would like to emphasize that in addition to the verbal comments made at tonight's
meeting; it is helpful to the applicant and the consultant to also provide a written
statement.
Chair Greene stated that the purpose of tonight's hearing is to take comment
regarding the Draft EIR. The Planning Commission will take no action on this item
tonight. There will be future public hearings on the project when decisions will be
made and there will be additional opportunity for the public to comment on the
project.
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Further, it is the tradition of the Planning Commission to offer the applicant or his
representative to comment before the Public Hearing. For the record, they have
already commented at the previous hearing.
The applicant chose not to comment at this time.
Chair Greene reminded the public that staff would be receiving public comments in
the Community Development Department until October 15, 1999.
Chair Greene opened the Public Hearing.
Karen Cross - Harmon, 390 Mercedes Lane, had several issues she put before the
Planning Commission. She stated that she was a recent resident to the area and
she does not know why this "bucolic and placid" town is even considering such a
huge and sprawling undertaking.
After some research, she decided to come to the Planning Commission and share
her new understanding of the facts concerning this development.
• She felt that the lack of water was one of the main problems.
• She does not agree that this project will have little impact on the Village.
• She does not believe that you can attract tourism to an industrial complex.
• This development will encompass a "sprawling area ".
• This development will be the demise of Grand Avenue.
• She felt there should have been more public input before this had gone to
LAFCO for the Sphere of Influence Amendment.
• This will cause the traffic problems, especially at Halcyon and Brisco Road, to
worsen
• This development will put additional pressure on the already overtaxed public
services.
• This development will cause "conversion pressure" on the surrounding
agricultural land. This will cause a type of domino effect, where the remaining
ag land will have a harder time withstanding the "pressure" to convert to other
uses.
• The current EIR does not address' the issue of the incompatibility impacts to the
adjacent ag users.
• She does not feel that the Planning Department and the Developer started this
project in an appropriate and legal manner.
• She is concerned with land, slope and soil erosion.
• Since this project is visible from Highway 101, this will change the site and
look of Arroyo Grande when entering from the south.
• She feels this project is inconsistent with how the citizens of Arroyo Grande
view themselves and the area they live in.
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• She feels the former City Council that approved the sphere of influence moved
ahead without real public awareness and that the economic conditions that
were present at the time are no longer viable.
• She would like to continue the discussion of the project and hold workshops,
like those held for the General Plan, so the public can participate in the
discussion.
To substantiate her arguments and concerns about the project, Ms. Cross - Harmon
read from several County and City historical documents.
Commissioner London thanked everyone who came forward at the last meeting, as
well as this one and all those who submitted written responses to the DEIR. He
stated that he looked forward to the applicant's response to all the various issues
that were brought up.
Chair Greene closed the Public Hearing.
B. VILLAGE GLEN ANNEXATION, TRACT 2265 AND ELEMENTARY SCHOOL #12;
PROJECT LOCATION - UNINCORPORATED AREA OF SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY,
ADJACENT TO AND NORTH OF JAMES WAY NEAR MESQUITE LANE;
APPLICANT - VILLAGE GLEN HOMES, LLC.
Kerry McCants, Community Development Director stated that the project included a
19.1 acre elementary school and a thirty -six UNIT residential project. The total
acreage is 86.3 acres, which is included in the annexation proposal. This is an
opportunity for the public to make comments on the EIR and again, he would
encourage everyone to submit written comments to the Community Development
Department as well as their verbal comments.
Chair Greene again explained to the public that the purpose of tonight's hearing
was to take public comment only and that the Planning Commission would not take
any action on this item.
David Foote, Firma Consulting stated that he was in attendance tonight to listen to
public input. His responsibility at the end of the comment period was to take all
public comment and respond by incorporating them into the Final EIR.
Commissioner Greene asked Mr. Foote if he was going to address the traffic study
or would the traffic comments be passed on to the consultant that had prepared
the original traffic study?
Mr. Foot replied that the comments would be passed on to the traffic engineer that
did the traffic study.
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Chair Greene wanted the public to understand that Mr. Foote was selected by the
City of Arroyo Grande, not by the applicant and therefore he is serving as a
consultant to the staff on this issue.
Christopher Charles, 766 Phillips stated that he was in second grade and that the
City needed this new school. He said that he rides on the bus now for over two
hours. His little sister needs the school too. He thanked the Commission for his
future.
Tobie Charles, 766 Phillips stated that there were so many kids that crossed
through the Brisco intersection to get to school that he felt it would help somehow
with the impact at that intersection.
Micalene Moran, 289 James Way stated that she was concerned about the
children. When there is a large storm the electricity in this area always goes out. It
would not be a good situation for the children to be in. She felt that the parents
would be out of touch with their children and vice - versa.
Patrick Voeqlle, 230 Canyon Way stated that he has very upset because he had not
been notified about tonight's meeting. He does not have a problem with the school
however; his problem is with the lack of information that has been discriminated to
the residents of Canyon Way. They will be impacted by the placement of the
school in a couple of different ways. His fear is that the traffic pattern on their
street will change for the worse. At Ocean View there is a big traffic problem
because there is a "key- hole" dead -end street where parents come to drop off and
pick up their children. He is afraid that the kids will leave the school, go down the
proposed fire access road to the top of Canyon Way and parents will be picking up
their children there. Because of this potential traffic issue for them he felt it was
iligitment and deceitful that the people on Canyon Way were not notified. He
would like to know why this happened? He would also like to know if there had
been any traffic impact study done on the potential change?
Chair Greene asked Mr. McCants to address what efforts were taken to notify
residents, both within and outside the three hundred foot limitation, regarding the
project.
Mr. McCants stated that a display ad was placed in the Times Press Recorder, as
well as the standard noticing procedure of noticing residents within three hundred
feet. He explained that there was a problem with the list that was provided to the
Department in that some of the parcels were not identified correctly.
Karen Lange, 146 Avenue de Diamonte stated that she would like to support the
school, which she felt was absolutely needed. She felt that the Planning
Commission needed to look at other cities and see what a Planning Commission is
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supposed to do. She finds that in this City the developer's word is taken for what
is going to happen. Developers are not the kind of people that will "unsell" their
project. This project has a school site with only one entrance road and she feels
that this is inconceivable to her that there would be a school with over 500 kids
and only one road. In the other communities, the Planning Commission and the
City Council requires the developer, if they want to work in that community, to do
what the Planning Commission sees fit. She felt it was the Commission's job to
understand the community and to push the developer to do what they and the
community wants.
Chuck Fellows, 202 Canyon Way was concerned and had questions because he
had heard that there was going to be a "bump- gate" for access to the school site.
He is not against the school and feels that the school is needed. He felt that just
about anything that would keep traffic away from the Brisco intersection is a good
idea. However, the many families that live on Canyon Way are concerned that
traffic will increase on their street. He has come to as many meetings as he has
known about to talk about the traffic issues. He was surprised that there were no
maps on the wall to let them know what was going to happen in this area. Was
there going to be a "bump- gate" and what is the present plan for the top of Canyon
Way?
Chair Greene explained that the reason for tonight's meeting was only to take
comment on the Draft EIR. The information that Mr. Fellows was asking about was
contained in the Draft EIR.
Mr. Fellows stated that if he had known about tonight's meeting he would have
known to go read the Draft EIR.
Juan Olivarri, 931 Margarita, Grover Beach told the Commission that he was the
Principal of Margaret Harloe Elementary School. He sees the impact of having a
large, overcrowded school every day. There are three elementary schools in Arroyo
Grande with Margaret Harloe being the largest with over 700 students. There is a
huge need in Arroyo Grande for another school, especially one on the East Side of
the freeway. He stated that he was on the committee that looked at multiple sites.
The James Way site was the best site they found for a school. He said that he
realizes that the Commission looks at the whole picture and all the impacts that can
occur. He also realizes that his view is a little parochial in that he only looks at the
benefit for the children, but there is a great need for a school on the East Side of
the freeway.
Ravanna Thompson, 1964 Johnson Ave., San Luis Obispo stated that she was the
Principal at Ocean View Elementary School for five years. She said that she knows
what it is like to have to tell families that come into the Community that are very
close to the school, that there is no room from them at that school. She wanted
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the Commission to know how impacted the schools are in the Arroyo Grande area.
This school is very necessary and she felt it would help with the impact on the
Brisco Road intersection.
George Heister, 677 Printz Road explained to the Commission that he has nine plus
acres adjacent to the project with 360 feet directly abutting the site and he had
received no information about the project what so ever. He went to the office in
March and requested that his name be added to the list but still did not receive any
notice about the project.
He stated that he had submitted his written comments to the City but he wanted to
emphasize one sector of his comments that he felt was extremely important.
Mr. Heister referred to the City's Water System Master Plan adopted on July 13,
1999. This plan provided information on present and future water supplies for the
City of Arroyo Grande. It refers to the 1983 friendly adjudication with area's cities
and the farmers. As the Commission knows the farmers were concerned about the
salt -water intrusion into the coastal wells. Arroyo Grande was allocated 1,200 -acre
feet per year from the ground water. The City's other source of groundwater is the
Lopez Lake contract and supply which is 2,290 acre feet per year plus 580 acre
feet of any available surplus. The City's prior studies indicated that this water
supply could support about 17,000 to 18,000 residents. When Rancho Grande is
built out, in his opinion, would exhaust the City's existing reserves. The reports'
recommendation is that future annexations include a separate source of water
supply adequate for the increased demand. It also went on to say that this should
be within the City's limited water allotment. The report said that the City of Arroyo
Grande is approaching, or exceeding, it's limited water resources, now or in the
near future. It asks that the City include a Water Master Plan when considering
annexation.
Tara Webb, 577 Woodland Dr. said that she felt that this annexation would be very
beneficial to the City. The City needs another school desperately. She thinks the
parking and traffic issues can be dealt with. The traffic studies could be looked at
again and some solution could be reached rather than killing the whole projects.
The traffic on the Brisco intersection with the parents going back and forth to take
their kids to school is a nightmare and if that could be alleviated it would be a
blessing.
William Daniel, 741 Printz Road first apologized for his neighbors that were
opposed to the Village Glen project but had to be absent for tonight's meeting. He
stated that he too had not received any notice or tardy notice about the project.
He said that he, like his neighbors, were not anti - progress. However, they all
expect this project to be constructed along the zoning and guidelines that were in
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place when they purchased their homes and properties and without creating any
undue hardship on the surrounding homeowners.
Mr. Daniel said that the changes the developer is requesting are not in keeping with
Section 8 of the Arroyo Grande General Plan. It states in part, "promoting a rural
small -town atmosphere and retaining our ties to agriculture while providing the best
possible quality of life for all residents." He felt that these changes, if permitted,
would adversely effect the surrounding homeowners.
The developer has proposed a school site. Yes, we need a school, but not in this
area. And not an elementary school that is backed up to existing 2 1/2 acre and
larger parcels, with homes in the $650,000 to $1 .3 million which is a community
of older homeowners who have already raised their children.
Mr. Daniel stated that this site was unsuitable for a school because it would require
extensive grading to bring it into conformity with the state standard for schools.
There is a difference in elevation of 130 feet from the top of the site to the lower
boundary of the site.
He would like to see the Council give further consideration to the proposal that is
outlined in the third paragraph of Section V.3, Subsection D. as outlined in the
current EIR. A portion of this section suggests that parcels of 1 .5 to 2.5 acres be
placed in this area. These lots would serve as, "a land use transition to larger lot
sizes in the County and the residential estate zone to the northwest." Further in
this section it states, "this would be the environmentally superior alternative."
On the subject of water, he stated that the Deertrail Well that the developer intends
to use lies below the aquifer that serves the residents along Old Oak Park Road,
Noyes Road and Printz Road. The EIR states that extracting water from this area
should not adversely effect all of these homeowners. He feels that this conclusion
in the EIR is flawed. The silty sand and clay that separates these two aquifers will
be an effective barrier from keeping the higher from draining to the lower aquifer.
This would impact the residents along the three roads. He was also concerned that
the City may end up using more water from the Santa Maria aquifer and therefore
leave itself open to litigation from exceeding their limitation.
In conclusion, he is not anti - progress but he would like to see this development
done in a responsible manner, one that would not adversely the community as it
now exists.
Jack Smith, 338 Quail Lane stated that he serves on the Facility Committee that is
responsible for finding school sites. The wanted the Commission to know that they
looked for over two years to find a site in Arroyo Grande. It seems that there are
other priorities such as using Ag land, or wetlands. Now the school district is in a
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situation where the schools in the are overcrowded. There are elementary schools
where they have to have six lunch periods of only twenty minutes. There are so
few bathrooms that the kids have to leave the classroom because they can't use
the bathroom at recess or lunch. There will be traffic problems and not perfect
systems but we can't wait any longer for a school. There is no playground space
because they are filled with portable classrooms. There needs to be a new school
in this area. How bad does it have to get for the kids and why should they be the
last priority.
Shari McCarthy, 222 Garden stated that she has a child at Ocean View. The City
desperately needs a new school site. She hopes that the City does not spend a lot
of time not taking care of the issues to allow a new school. She stated that she
trusts the Facilities Committee for researching out a site. Now it needs to be done.
She does have a concern about only one entrance into the school. She does
consider this a problem with regards to safety for the children.
Tim Brown, 125 Allen felt that the school is a great idea. He feels that it is a win -
win situation for all those involved. He has a child at Ocean View and he concurs
that the school is very impacted. His question to the Planning Commission about
the traffic study. The traffic study basically changes the methodology to go from a
LOS of B to D. He wondered if by certifying this EIR, were they accepting that
level of B for the Brisco intersection?
Lori Glockanour, 800 Pearl Drive said that she was the crossing guard at the Grover
Heights Elementary. What she wanted to suggest that the parents, who are always
in such a hurry to pick up their children, remember that their children are sponges
and absorb what their parents pass out to them. If the parents could drive slowly,
with caution, they could avoid this. The traffic at her school site lasts no longer
than ten to fifteen minutes. If parents allowed themselves more time they could
get in and out without a problem.
She is also on the PTA district board and this is a big concern to this community.
She said that it irritates her that our children should be an asset, but they are put
below trees, grass and animals and that people don't care about them. They come
to the meeting and bicker about their privacy over the children having an
opportunity to have a proper education. She would suggest that everyone should
go to their work place and cram three additional people into their office space and
see how much work they get done. These are the conditions the children have to
deal with on a daily basis and they do it with a lot of pride and joy. This is why
she feels it is very important for the Planning Commission to move forward and not
put the children at the bottom of the list anymore because they are one of our
biggest assets.
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Otis Page, 606 Myrtle Street wished to express his thanks to the City Council for
the initiative they are taking on the traffic issues. He feels that everything the
present Council is doing, under the leadership of Mike Lady, Tony Ferrara, and Jim
Dickens, to optimize the best solution for the citizens in terms of traffic is a totally
responsible issue for the citizens to understand.
Anita Ikeda, 371 Gularte Road stated that the substantial growth has impacted the
schools. We now have schools that are overcrowded and run a risk for our
children's health, safety and education, as well as their futures. She would like to
recommend the annexation of this property and a new school site to help alleviate
the current problem that exists. It is an investment, not only in our community,
but in the future of our children.
David Shaw, 295 Canyon Way explained to the Planning Commission that he did
get a notice and had read the EIR. He is in favor of the school, but what he does
not understand, and what is not clear in the EIR is why there has to be annexation
in order to get a school. It does not make sense to him. He stated that this
creates problems with water and everything else to have more homes in this area.
Do we really need the annexation of this property to get a school?
Chair Greene closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner Keen main concerned was with the traffic. He lives near Ocean
View Elementary School and therefore sees the traffic problems there on a daily
basis. That location has two entrances, this location does not. If this is the only
place the Facilities Board could find to put the school that is fine, except it will not
work with the traffic layout that has been presented. If this project is approved the
City will have exactly the same thing as Brisco Road. Brisco Road will eventually
be fixed. If there is only one way in and out of this location there will be no way it
can be fixed.
Mr. Keen stated that on page 4.D4 of the Draft EIR it talked about the trips for the
elementary school when the enrollment is at 500 children. It says the number of
trips will be 510. He wanted to know what determines a trip? Is -a trip to the
school or two the school and back? The trips could actually be 2,000 at the corner
of James Way and this project. He feels that the majority of the children are driven
to school. The intersection at James Way will be greatly impacted not only with
the parents, but also the buses and the teachers.
He went on to say that in the Crawford- Multari Report it quotes the Police Chief as
saying, "Providing a safe and adequate drop off and pick up area in front of the
school, as well as assuring adequate and multiple access and egress were two
issues identified by the Police Chief as minimal for police services." He did not see
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this quoted in the current EIR. He didn't understand how it could be addressed as a
police problem already and not be put in the EIR.
Mr. Keen stated that a school at this location would not work unless there is more
access in and out. If there was a problem there the street may become so
impacted the fire department couldn't even get to the site. Until the project comes
up with another way in and out he does not see how this can work and he doesn't
believe the EIR addresses that.
Further, on page D.5 of the summary it says that the school would contribute up to
956 trips over a twenty -four hour period. One of the things he noticed is that a lot -
of the parents that bring their kids to school are also on their way to work. He
questions how this would relieve much of the impact on the Brisco Road
underpass. Because, the people on the north side of the freeway still have to go
to work_ They will come back to the freeway to get on their way to work.
Impact D.1 states that location and purpose of the proposed tract access road does
not provide safe sight distance for vehicles on James Way when children are
crossing James Way. Where the road intersects with James Way is not going to
be a safe entrance for this project. He realizes that the Facilities Committee has
done their job in selecting this site, but saying that the school has to go in the back
of this annexation area and with only one entrance he feels is a big problem.
In addition, Mr. Keen was concerned about having 50 parking spaces and a big loop
to drop off the children in the same loop where the buses have to go. He does not
see how this would work.
Lastly, he is concerned about the new lay out of the project. The EIR does not say
how much open space will be there. The old plan showed 30 acres of open space
and he would like the EIR to say how much the open space easement is. One of
the reasons he would like to see this is because, in Section 1 -1 1 it talks about the
clustering of the properties because of the open space it would allow. If the Open
Space disappears with lots then the clustering aspect goes away.
Commissioner London stated that he looked at the EIR for this project and
compared it to the last EIR, which had two entrances. He wondered if the second
entrance was eliminated to allow additional lots? The bottleneck at the school
needs to be eliminated. The overall project is good and the school is needed. He
believes that the applicant will have to come up with another entrance to the
project or some way to mitigate the problem.
He felt that the EIR is in line with the one that was approved earlier in the year. As
far as the Brisco Road intersection, he does not feel it can be mitigated with this
project. If the City wants the school they will have to accept the impacts.
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Commissioner Costello stated that he has several issues that he feels are critical to
this project either with, or without, the school.
1. He is concerned with making sure that the density , if this project goes
forward, remains the same. He does not want to see any "stepping" with
additional projects. He would like to see that the final document is very strict with
any further development on this property.
2. In terms of the traffic, he finds it impossible to believe that the Brisco
intersection is operating at a LOS of C. Something is wrong with the study on the
traffic.
3. With regards to the Pismo Clarkia, he has been told that this plant can't be
relocated. So either the City decides that it doesn't care about this plant and
eradicate it or decide it does care and do something to protect it.
4. There are some real issues with the Police and Fire services. The accessibility
issue is one thing but more importantly this EIR brings forward that in the very near
future, the City might have to go to a paid Fire Department. It distresses him to
find out that there are no provisions in place in the City for impact fees for Police
and Fire.
5. It appears that the drainage for the project is all right. However, the City needs
to be very careful that any mitigation measures in place for this project are
monitored closely. There should be some measure in place so if they aren't doing
what they are supposed to there would be some way to go back and make certain
the people downstream are protected.,
6. He does not feel that mitigating the Brisco interchange will happen with this
project. However, he feels that the City needs to take a closer look at the traffic
ramifications of this study. The numbers need to be consistent and we do need to
pursue some of the issues Commissioner Keen raised on this.
7. Mr. Costello stated that everything he has read in the EIR about the water issue
says that there is no study to conclusively prove what is being said. Time after
time in the EIR the referrals to water are not substantiated. He had the same issue
with the previous EIR. In the EIR it states that they will do a study for two years
about the quality of the water coming out of the ground and the flow to see if it is
adequate. Is the developer willing to do the tests and wait two years then if the
water is not adequate to stop the project. If the project cannot bring in the water
from the well being suggested, there needs to be some other mitigation.
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Mr. Costello asked that these issues be addressed more completely to create a
better document for making a final decision on certifying the EIR.
Chair Greene stated that he had put his comments in a written document which he
would like given to the consultant. He stated that when the previous EIR was
reviewed some months ago the document included a Resolution with a pre- zoning
request. One of his concerns at that time was that the only pre- zoning option that
was presented to the Commission which was the zoning for all the 83.6 acres. For
the record, he would like the staff to consider alternative zoning proposals for the
approximate 19 acres, which are not part of the Tract 2265. He respectively
requests that when the issue of pre- zoning comes before the Commission that they
are presented with alternative zoning options for the parcels which are not part of
Tract 2265. This concern was also raised by the City Council when it went before
them.
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Commissioner Costello had some concerns that were more "global" in nature about
conditions in general in the City of Arroyo Grande. The first thing was the concept
that, with continued development in the City, they will have to move to a paid City
Fire Department. He questioned what was in the General Fund now to pay for
that? The Fire Department will be an expensive proposition. Where will the money
come from to hire the staff, acquire the extra equipment, training and all the
expenses required for having a full time department?
Along the same lines, how will the Police Department be expanded? The
Commission sees mitigation measures in the EIR's that come forward but there is
not fund set up for planning for future growth for these departments. It is not fair
to dump all of the costs for the growth of these departments on a project that
comes in. Mr. Costello stated that he was very concerned that the City does not
have some sort of measures in place to begin working towards the expansion of
these departments.
With regards to traffic mitigation, Mr. Costello stated that his understanding of LOS
is very hazy. Every project seems to have different ideas of what the LOS is at
different intersections. For the sake of argument, Mr. Costello said what if the LOS
at Brisco Road is really a B? If the LOS at that intersection is a B, going back to the
requirement the City has that the project needs to not create a LOS of C or lower.
If Brisco Road is really a LOS B, it would not be an acceptable level. Also, there
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should be some kind of conformity in the traffic studies. If the level of service is a
B in actuality
The Brisco Road interchange is going to have to be resolved somehow? It is going
to cost the City $10 million or more. Is the City going to assess every new project
coming through to pay for the Brisco Road intersection to get up to the $10 million
fee? The City needs to go back and re- examine the the LOS issue.
Mr. Costello explained that these are the problems that concern him the most. Not
just about this project, but about any and all projects that will come forward now.
He would like to have a clear understanding of what the issues concerning the
roads and intersections.
Commissioner Keen commented on the LOS issue. He said that there is no way
that Brisco Road underpass is an LOS B. One of the things that has to be taken
into consideration when the LOS of an intersection, is that every intersection is
figured differently because of the lanes, the cross streets, speed of traffic, etc. The
City cannot say that one intersection is figured on the criteria of another
intersection. Every traffic engineer comes up with a different LOS because they
use different criteria.
Commissioner Costello said that it made sense to evaluate the different
intersections because they are unique, with different criteria. However, the City
should have the same "yardstick" when figuring this. Mr. Costello asked if the City
had a list that prioritized the different trouble areas in the Ctiy.
Mr. McCants stated that the City does have a list with Brisco Road being one of the
top priorities. As a result of the City Council's action at their September 28`"
meeting, on November 16` staff will bring an agenda item to discuss the Council
action and how it relates to the thresholds, where the LOS line should be drawn in
terms of environmental issues and also how that relates to the General Plan policies
the City has in place.
Commissioner Costello asked where the City was going to go with the issue of a
full time Fire Department?
The Commission discussed the issue with the Fire Department as it relates to
increased cost of fire insurance, cost of a full time department, etc.
Chair Greene asked the staff of the Community Development Department to inform
the City Manager, City Council, and other City staff that the Planning Commission
has a grave concern about how the Fire Department is going to evolve in this City
and perhaps it is important at this point in time to began some preliminary planning
to establish a funding source for hiring more permanent full -time fire employees.
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Commissioner Costello asked what would happen next with the Village Glen
project?
Mr. McCants replied that the consultant will respond to the comments. The final
day for comments is October 11, 1999. The consultant will take all the
information and prepare the Final EIR which will come back to the Planning
Commission for certification in November.
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR COMMENTS AND FOLLOWUP- REPORTS
Mr. McCants stated that the only thing he had for the Planning Commission was
previously discussed. That item was the follow up discussion on the City Council
decision with regards to traffic. He stated again that the issue would be coming
before the Planning Commission on November 16, 1999.
Chair Greene asked Mr. McCants what would be on the agenda for the Planning
Commission at the next meeting? He also asked for some clarification about the
newspaper article concerning Joe DeLucia's Village Centre project.
Mr. McCants explained that the first problem is the Lopez water line that goes
through his property. Apparently the County Engineering people are saying the
water line has to be replaced because it is not structurally sound if the parking lot is
put over it. The second problem is one with the state regarding an encroachment
permit for storm drainage on Hwy 227.
ADJOURNMENT
The Planning Commission meeting was adjourned at 9:50 p.m. to its next
scheduled meeting on October 19,1999.
ATTEST:
Kathleen Fryer, Commis on Clerk
AS TO CONTENT:
Kerry M ts
Community Development Director
Laurence Greene, Chair