PC Minutes 1997-04-151
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ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
APRIL 15, 1997
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met with Commissioners Greene, Haney, Lubin,
O'Donnell and Rondeau present. Community Development Director Doreen Liberto -Blanck and
Associate Planner Bruce Buckingham were in attendance.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - Otis Page, 606 Myrtle Street - representative to the SLOCOG
CTAC; discussed studies that had recently been approved and their potential impact on Arroyo
Grande; projects that are projected in the City and how they could impact the regional
transportation issue; and the need for cooperation to insure that the City receive the maximum
benefit.
CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 97 -550;
PROPOSAL TO REMODEL EXISTING VACANT RETAIL SPACE INTO A DELI WITH
OUTDOOR DINING AT THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AT 203 EAST BRANCH
STREET; APPLICANT, JOHN & MAUREEN GUTIERREZ
Chair Lubin noted that there had been a request from the applicant to continue the item to the
May 6, 1997 meeting.
On a motion from Commissioner Haney; seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell; and by
unanimous vote; this item was continued to the May 6, 1997 Planning Commission meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING - TIME EXTENSION FOR VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
1997; APPLICANT, OTTSE, INC; LOCATION, NORTHWEST CORNER OF JAMES
WAY AND LA CANADA
Chair Lubin noted that there had been a request from the applicant to withdraw the request for
a time extension.
On a motion from Commissioner Haney; seconded by Commissioner Rondeau; and by
unanimous vote; the request to withdraw the item was granted.
PUBLIC HEARING - LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT CASE NO. 97 -550; PROPOSAL TO
ADJUST EIGHT (8) EXISTING COMMERCIAL LOTS INTO FOUR (4) LOTS AT
SOUTHEAST CORNER OF OAK PARK BOULEVARD AND EL CAMINO REAL;
APPLICANT, GLENN & BETH PETERS; REPRESENTATIVE, GARING, TAYLOR &
ASSOCIATES, INC.
Associate Planner Bruce Buckingham presented the staff report; stated that the new lots will
conform to the Development Code with the exception of Lot D; noted that the Public Works
Department presented revisions to Conditions of Approval (COA) which would allow conditions
to be complied with prior to the development of any parcel; noted that there are four (4) legally
acknowledged lots; discussed neighboring property owners concern with ingress and egress to
the lots; presented a Negative Declaration for adoption; stated that the Staff Advisory Committee
(SAC) had reviewed the project and recommended approval.
Chair Lubin opened the public hearing.
Jim Garing, Garing, Taylor & Associates - complemented staff on their work; noted that he
agrees with COA which will be reviewed when development is proposed; and answered
Commissioner questions about potential future development and access easement across property.
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There being no further comments from the audience, the public hearing was closed.
The Commission discussed the advisability of consolidating the lots for future development;
expressed concern with any impact on the surrounding residential neighborhoods; and recognized
that access would be dealt with when specific development was proposed.
Then the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 97 -1612
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE ADOPTING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION,
INSTRUCTING THE CITY CLERK TO FILE A NOTICE OF
DETERMINATION, AND APPROVING LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT CASE
NO. 97 -536 AND CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE CASE NO. 97 -539,
LOCATED AT 1587 EL CAMINO REAL, APPLIED FOR BY GLENN AND
BETH PETERS
Adopted the Resolution with the following amendments:
1. Revise the lead paragraph for Public Works Department Conditions as follows:
All Public Works Department conditions of approval as listed below are to be complied
with a
th rior to recording the map or finalizing the permit
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unless specifically noted otherwise.
2. Revise Condition No. 23 as follows:
The applicant shall provide bonds or other fmancial security for the following: All bonds
or security shall be in a form acceptable to the City, and shall be provided prior to
recording of the map CO' f ca s ra ' han unless noted otherwise.
3. Move condition of approval No 24.b. to 25.f.
On a motion by Commissioner Greene, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Greene, O'Donnell, Haney, Rondeau and Lubin
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
Staff advised the audience of the appeal procedure.
PUBLIC HEARING - TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP CASE NO. 97 -537; REQUEST TO
DIVIDE PROPERTY INTO TWO (2) LOTS AT SOUTHEAST CORNER OF CHERRY
AVENUE AND TRAFFIC WAY; APPLICANT, DORFMAN /WEBB; REPRESENTATIVE,
LEE WEBB
Associate Planner Bruce Buckingham presented the staff report; noted that the existing lot has
two different General Plan /Zoning designations; explained that the request is to divide the area
zoned Agriculture from the area zoned Highway Commercial; stated that at this time there is no
development proposal, but in the future any development plan would come before the Planning
Commission; Public Works Department recommended that all dedications and improvements be
completed on the commercial lot and all dedications on the agricultural land; recommended a
Negative Declaration; and approval of the project based on attached Conditions of Approval
(COA).
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The Commission had questions regarding the timing of the improvements and dedications on
Cherry Lane and Traffic Way. Craig Campbell, Public Works Department answered the
questions and explained the COA.
Chair Lubin opened the public hearing.
Lee Webb, applicant - noted that they are not requesting any development at this time but only
to split the parcel; stated that making improvements to the commercial parcel at this time is not
economically feasible; and noted that they are not sure what type of development will occur, so
location of improvement is premature.
Ed Dorfman, applicant - stated that the request for a parcel map is only to split the property .
according to the existing zoning; discussed how the zoning was placed on the property
previously; noted that they are only exploring ideas to develop the property at this time; stated
that any improvements would be premature until plans are finalized; and requests COA 16 &
17 and 23 & 37 be modified.
Ray C. Parker, 129 East Cherry Avenue - stated that he understands need for commercial
development but is concerned with size of lot; expressed concern with width of East Cherry
Avenue; concerned that his home, which is zoned commercial, is directly across from future
commercial development; and agreed that it is premature for improvements to be required.
Arlene Johnson, owner of Vagabond Mobile Home Park - noted that all of the water from the
site drains through her mobile home park; and concerned that any further development would
increase flow.
Lee Webb, applicant - noted that a subdivision had recently been approved in the area and it
should absorb approximately 50 to 70% of the runoff from Newsome Springs; and he stated that
his project would not add to the drainage problem.
There being no further comments from the audience, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner Haney asked about the timing of public improvements and why they were being
proposed in advance of development. Craig Campbell, Public Works Department, provided a
history of the area and stated that this project was considered a subdivision even though it was
not creating separate buildable lots and at that time the improvements were traditionally required.
Commissioner O'Donnell asked about the drainage problem. Craig Campbell discussed drainage
in this area; explained how water would be diverted; and noted required easement.
Commissioner Greene asked about general cost of required street improvements. Craig
Campbell noted that they could be upward of $40,000.
Chair Lubin asked about the residential property across the street. Community Development
Director Liberto - Blanck provided historical information regarding the area; and noted that last
year Mr. Dorfman and Mr. Webb asked for an interpretation of the General Plan boundary.
The Commission discussed Mr. Parker's comments and how they could be addressed; the width
of the street; drainage problems and how they could be addressed; and issue of requiring street
improvements prior to development.
The following action was taken:
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RESOLUTION NO. 97 -1613
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE ADOPTING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION,
INSTRUCTING THE SECRETARY TO FILE A NOTICE OF
DETERMINATION, AND APPROVING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP CASE
NO. 97 -537, LOCATED AT CHERRY AVENUE AND TRAFFIC WAY,
APPLIED FOR BY DORFMAN /WEBB
Adopted the Resolution with the following amendments:
COA #16
Adjacent to Lot 2, East Cherry Avenue shall be designed and n..tfueted to be widened
to collcctor strcct standards, including the following s d rds
COA #17
Traffic Way shall be designed
including the following standr
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Staff advised the audience of the appeal procedure.
COA #23a
Drainage easements where shown on the tentative map or where required by the Director
of Public Works. The easements shall be a minimum of 4-5- ::200 feet wide:
On a motion by Commissioner O'Donnell, seconded by Commissioner Greene, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners O'Donnell, Greene, Haney, Rondeau and Lubin
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PUBLIC HEARING - CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 97- 551 /MINOR
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW; REQUEST TO ALLOW AN ATTACHED SECOND
DWELLING UNIT AT 238 WEST BRANCH ST; APPLICANT - L. C. LA VINE;
REPRESENTATIVE, L & H CONSTRUCTION
Associate Planner Bruce Buckingham presented the staff report; discussed the background of the
project as noted in the staff report; noted that a copy of the State legislation that governs second
units was provided for information; stated that with the addition of a carport, project meets
requirements of Development Code; noted that the City has received complaints regarding rental
of the property; requested CUP would allow applicant to rent one of the units while living in
the other; noted that a deed restriction requiring the owner to live on site is a COA; stated that
a letter of opposition had been received from neighbors; and reported that SAC had reviewed
the project and recommended approval.
The Commission asked about parking on site and the potential for backing out onto West
Branch, staff discussed how it complied with the Development Code; asked about the width of
the driveway and Fire Department access, staff noted that the Fire Chief had reviewed the
project and visited the site; asked about the allegations that work had been completed without
appropriate building permits, staff stated that the Building Department would assure all necessary
permits were obtained.
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Chair Lubin opened the public hearing.
Rick Collins. neighbor - noted that he would not have a problem if it were owner occupied;
stated that the property had become an income property which hurts character of neighborhood;
asked if the lot met minimum size; noted that permission should not be granted if there are
unresolved issues; and stated that finding #2 in the Resolution could not be made, therefore the
permit should not be granted.
Don Selvey. 103 Oro Drive - discussed state requirements for second residential units; noted that
they should not be confused with a duplex; expressed support for second residential units; stated
that they do not negatively impact single family neighborhoods, but are a good method of
providing moderate housing.
Joe Manion. Larchmont Drive - expressed support of limiting the size of second residential units
as long as the owner lived on site.
Ray Smith. 234 West Branch Street - discussed the character of the neighborhood; stated that
his property has received beautification award from the City; stated that he did not agree that
Mr. La Vine had developed a "prescriptive easement" on his property; and expressed concern
that more people would be using the driveway adjacent to his property which is already narrow
and dangerous.
L. C. La Vine - explained why it was felt that he had a "prescriptive easement" across Mr.
Smith's property; stated that adjacent properties have neither a driveway or a garage; expressed
belief that four (4) cars could park on- site; stated that he did original work to create studio and
that no additional square footage was added to building; stated that he leases the property only
one party at a time; explained his intent to live in the studio and rent the main house; agreed to
pay for permits for previous work; presented a survey and document from Western Engineering
regarding "prescriptive easement "; requested approval of project; and restated his intent to live
on the property.
Lauren Bow. co -owner and contractor - discussed the easement; and stated that a subterranean
garage exists on Mr. Smith's property.
Rick Collins. neighbor - expressed concern that since Mr. La Vine is not an owner - occupant,
he cannot file the application.
There being no further comments from the audience, the public hearing was closed.
Associate Planner Buckingham stated that the City Council had recently adopted changes to the
Development Code which allowed Mr. La Vine the ability to apply for the CUP; and noted that
the lot is 6250 square feet, exceeding the minimum lot size for a second residential unit.
Commissioner Rondeau expressed concern with the number of different stories that were
presented and suggested some of the neighborhood issues should be resolved prior to the CUP
being issued.
Commissioner Haney stated that since the existing property meets all Development Code
requirements and Mr. La Vine has assured the Commission that he will live in the unit, he can
support the CUP.
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Commissioner Greene asked for clarification if Mr. La Vine does not today live in the home can
he make application. Staff replied that the deed restriction requiring owner - occupancy goes into
effect prior to issuance of building permit; expressed agreement with unique character of
neighborhood and stated that Commission should be cautious in how this area is allowed to
develop; and stated he is not comfortable granting approval.
Chair Lubin asked what enforcement measures exist to assure that the deed restriction was
complied with. Staff replied they would investigate if a complaint were lodged. Chair Lubin
stated that he favored a process whereby an existing structure would be brought up to code;
noted that code enforcement procedures are in place and feels confident that if Mr. La Vine does
not live in unit, the neighbors will bring it to the attention of the City; and stated that he believes
all necessary findings can be made. Chair Lubin thanked the public for their input.
The following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 97 -1614
A RESOLUTION 'OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE ADOPTING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION WITH
MITIGATION MEASURES, INSTRUCTING THE SECRETARY TO FILE
A NOTICE OF DETERMINATION, AND APPROVING CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT CASE NO. 97 -551 AND A MINOR ARCHITECTURAL
REVIEW; APPLIED FOR BY L. C. LA VINE, AT 238 WEST BRANCH
STREET
Adopted the Resolution with the following amendments:
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On a motion by Commissioner Haney, seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Haney, O'Donnell, Haney, Rondeau and Lubin
NOES: Commissioner Greene
ABSENT: None
Staff advised the audience of the appeal procedure.
The Commission took a five (5) minute break.
PUBLIC HEARING - PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM CASE NO. 97 -122 WITH MINOR
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW; REQUEST TO CHANGE EXISTING SIGNAGE AND
RAISE PARAPET WALL AT 1590 WEST BRANCH STREET; APPLICANT, CARL
KARCHER ENTERPRISES; REPRESENTATIVE, URBAN PLANNING CONCEPTS
Associate Planner Bruce Buckingham presented the staff report; stated that the existing use is
commercial/retail within the Oak Park Acres Planned Development Master Plan which
establishes the approved design for the center and requires all changes be subject to City Council
approval; a pre - application was reviewed on February 18, 1997 and substantial changes have
been made for the formal application; reviewed the proposal which calls for replacing 3 existing
signs with 2 Carl's Jr and 2 Green Burrito signs on the east and west elevations only; replacing
existing awning and changing the color; replacing the existing parapet wall which is 2 -1/2 feet
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in height with one that is 4 feet in height; repaint the building gray. He noted that the City sign
ordinance went into effect this week and allows a maximum of two (2) building mounted signs
per street frontage; stated that the Architectural Advisory Committee had reviewed the project
and recommends approval; noted that the project is categorically exempt under CEQA; and
stated that staff recommends approval based on the attached COA.
Chair Lubin noted that there had been significant changes made from the pre - application review
to this request.
Chair Lubin opened the public hearing.
Linda Budge, applicant representative - noted that they are remodeling all of their stores on the
West Coast to a more "90's" look, which includes the color and new signage; stated that they
are incorporating a "Green Burrito" into this store and consolidating the signage in two
locations; noted that the AAC had selected the building colors; noted that the new sign upgrade
consisted of individual channel letters; presented pictures of other stores that had been
remodeled; and requested approval of the project.
There being no further comments from the audience, the public hearing was closed.
Commissioner O'Donnell remarked that the view of Carl's Jr. from West Branch was obscured;
stated that the main signage for the store appeared to face the parking lot; and expressed concern
that the parapet facing West Branch had no signage proposed.
Commissioner Rondeau asked if there was any way that the signage could be lowered and
incorporated into the roof. Ms. Budge stated that they were not doing a major remodel and
moving the sign in that way would require extensive work to the roof, they would prefer to add
the signage to the parapet.
Commissioner Greene noted that he had reviewed the Carl's Jr. stores in San Luis Obispo at
Madonna and Foothill and he discussed the visibility of the signs in those locations; stated that
he had some concern regarding the parapet; and expressed concern with the sterile look on the
west side elevation.
Commissioner Haney expressed support for improving visibility for business which he feels that
this sign accomplishes; stated that this was a significant improvement over existing signage; and
noted that as it meets the sign criteria it is acceptable.
Chair Lubin agreed that business signage should continually be improved; asked if there was to
be a cap on the new parapet; and expressed satisfaction with the substantial improvement over
the first submittal.
Ms. Budge stated that the issue of the parapet had been discussed at great length at the AAC
review; noted that the parapet could not support a cap; and stated that since it was a stand alone
building there was agreement that a prominent sign was appropriate.
The following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 97 -1615
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING THE CITY COUNCIL. APPROVE
PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM CASE NO. 97 -122 AND MINOR
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW, APPLIED FOR BY CARL'S KARCHER
ENTERPRISES (CARL'S JR.) AT 1590 WEST BRANCH STREET
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On a motion by Commissioner Greene, seconded by Commissioner Haney, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Greene, Haney, O'Donnell, Rondeau and Lubin
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
PLANNING COMMISSION /COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR ITEMS AND
COMMENTS
A. Community Development Director Liberto -Blanck noted that the Mayor has requested
that all Commissions appoint a representative to the Long Range Planning Committee;
Chair Lubin called for a volunteer; however, the Commission agreed to review this at
their next meeting.
B. Update of Projects -
ATTEST:
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Community Development Director Liberto - Blanck reviewed the Tentative Project
Schedule
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS -
1. Agenda Item No. III.D. letter from Richard L. and Cynthia M. Collins received April
14, 1997.
2. Agenda Item No. III B, Public Works Department revisions to Conditions of Approval.
3. Agenda Item No. III D., Planning & Zoning Law Statues relative to 2nd units in
residential zone.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Commission, on a motion by Commissioner Greene,
seconded by Commissioner O'Donnell, and unanimously carried, the meeting was adjourned at
10:40 p.m.
Lucille se, Commission Clerk
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Liberto- nck Community Director
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