PC Minutes 1993-01-05ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 5, 1993
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman Soto presiding.
Present are Commissioners Moore, Tappan, Carr, and Reilly. Planning Director Doreen
Liberto -Blanck is in attendance, as well as Michael Multari of Crawford, Multari & Starr and
Juan Torres.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS - None
PUBLIC HEARING - HOUSING ELEMENT - HOUSING NEEDS IN THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE
Planning Director Doreen Liberto -Blanck provided some opening comments, then introduced
Mike Multari, CMS, to give an overview on the draft Housing Element, for the Commission to
receive comments from the public, and for the Planning Commission to discuss the items in the
draft and provide Staff with comments and direction. She recommended that this public hearing
be continued to January 19.
Mike Multari advised the Commission that Juan Torres was seated with the Spanish - speaking
people in the audience and would be translating for them. Mr. Multari then gave an overview
of the policies, and programs in the draft dated December 22, 1992, for the City of Arroyo
Grande by his firm. He pointed out that the Housing Element Update is necessary, as it is
required by State law and it is the only part of the General Plan that is reviewed by the State,
and the only part of the General Plan that has a deadline. He further advised that without the
Housing Element certified by the State, the General Plan is considered inadequate by the State.
One of the consequences of that is that you may not be eligible for various kinds of State monies
related to housing. He further stated that timeliness was important. After the Planning
Commission had an opportunity to review it, it would then go to the City Council. However,
before it can be adopted by the City, it must be submitted to the State.
Mr. Multari pointed out that figures showing that rental housing was far more realistic than for
sale housing. He further stated that the Fair Share amount given to the City by the State was
unrealistic, and they could not reach it, but the City was expected to try. He then presented a
summary chart on a screen and made comments.
Chairman Soto opened the public hearing.
Evelyn Cooper of Avila Beach, who is the Chairperson of the South County Coalition for
Human Service Needs, first spoke commending the Commission for recognizing the need for
low cost housing. She stated she felt it was advantageous for Arroyo Grande to cooperate with
the cities of Pismo Beach and Grover Beach in this endeavor. She gave her appreciation of the
notice being printed in Spanish and suggested in the future some of these notices be put in
laundromats and grocery stores, and other places where the Spanish population would most
likely see them. Ms. Cooper thanked the Staff for their cooperation, and the City Manager for
allowing them to have their first meeting in Council Chambers.
Juan Torres, interpreting comments from Spanish into English for several people in the
audience, stated their concerns were in purchasing rather than renting and what could be done
in this area. Also, what does one do to procure the low cost rentals. Mr. Multari stated the
Housing Element being discussed at this time would take time in producing such housing and
suggested that for the immediate they should contact People's Self Help Housing in San Luis
Obispo and the San Luis Obispo Housing Authority, Section 8 Housing, which included Arroyo
Grande.
Ed Dorfman of Arroyo Grande said that he felt the increase in building fees only made housing
more costly for everyone and was not a good solution to the problems.
With no further comments from the public, Commission Soto closed the public hearing and the
Commissioners discussed the plan at length, making inquiries and offering suggestions.
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It was brought out that in A11 -A13, it was not clear if these were accumulative. Mr. Multari
stated they were not, but perhaps a statement needs to be added for clarification. The actual
building of the low cost housing with the monies accumulated was of concern; it could take
years, when the problem needs solving sooner. Multari responded that this was true and no
solution seemed to be available, but in San Luis Obispo, where it had taken ten years in one
case, it was accomplished and people were now living in them.
A concern was brought out regarding the possibility of someone intentionally making small
subdivisions to avoid the "fewer than 12 units" mentioned in Al 1. Mr. Multari said he felt the
Staff would catch this on the on -set of approval of plans presented to them. However, he stated
a statement could be added that small sub - divisions would not be tolerated.
Where else can monies be obtained was considered and discussed by the Commission.
With many people renting out rooms in their homes, it was brought out that perhaps in some
way these could be considered as low cost rentals. The building of new sites which would
include grannies on the property to cover the builder's responsibility was considered.
For Policy All -A13 a sliding scale was suggested, rather than the percentages. Staff will look
into this with Mr. Multari.
It was pointed out that we need a program to give guidance for the utilization of the fees.
Concern regarding the monies needed for implementing the programs was expressed by the
Planning Commission. Mr. Multari stated there really was none available until we got our first
CDBG monies and could probably use some of it for implementation programs. Mr. Multari
also stated the City would have to get outside help as the existing Staff was not large enough to
do all the work.
Chairman Soto suggested to Mr. Multari that he discuss the secondary unit item with someone
like Mr. Dorfman to get a developer's point of view.
Chairman Soto commended Mr. Multari for the presented plan, stating that there was much
information in very few pages; and it was well done.
On a motion by Commissioner Carr, seconded by Commissioner Moore, and unanimously
carried, it was agreed to continue this item at the January 19, 1993 meeting.
NON - PUBLIC HEARING - REQUEST FOR INTERPRETATION OF THE PARKING
REQUIREMENTS FOR A SECOND STORY WORK/STORAGE AREA AT 106 WEST
BRANCH STREET, APPLICANT DAVID SEHER/VILLAGE DESIGN GALLERIES
Planning Director Doreen Liberto -Blanck stated that at their recent meeting the Business
Improvement Area Advisory Board had reservations, but said it might be appropriate.
Applicant David Seher stated his reasons for needing to use the upstairs for his office and one
other person; perhaps later applying for retail use upstairs. He further said he did not want to
go through with a variance because of the cumbersome forms he was asked to fill out. Planning
Director Doreen Liberto -Blanck asked him to come in and they would assist him with it.
After a discussion by the commissioners, there were reservations about approving this item. It
was therefore decided to present this to the public for their input. The following action was
taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 93 -1402
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE PROVIDING AN
INTERPRETATION OF THE DEVELOPMENT CODE
SECTION 9- 12.060, OFF STREET PARKING
REQUIREMENTS FOR 106 WEST BRANCH STREET
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On a motion by Commissioner Tappan, seconded by Commissioner Carr, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Moore, Tappan, Carr, Reilly, and Chairman Soto
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing #2 Resolution was passed and adopted this 5th day of January 1993.
PLANNING DIRECTOR/PLANNING COMMISSION ITEMS AND COMMENTS
Commissioner Soto brought the first item to the commissioners attention regarding the
Memorandum from the Public Works Director, and proposed the Resolution be adopted and sent
on to the City Council. During the discussion of this item, Commissioner Carr suggested that
on page 5, a period be inserted after "guidelines" and the rest of the sentence be deleted. The
following action was taken:
WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS - None
ATTEST,.
RESOLUTION NO. 93 -1403
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE ESTABLISHING
POLICIES AND GUIDELINES REGARDING PLANNING
COMMISSION APPROVED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
AYES: Commissioners Moore, Tappan, Carr, Reilly, and Chairman Soto
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
On a motion by Commissioner Carr, seconded by Commissioner Tappan, and by the following
roll call vote, to with:
the foregoing Resolution was passed and adopted this 5th day of January 1993.
After it was agreed to approve the Resolution and send it to the City Council, with further
discussion the Commission approved an addition presented by Commissioner Carr, as follows:
"Approval with the added direction to the Staff that an outline of a process be developed and
presented to the City Council that would indicate that the affected Department Head would meet
with the Planning Director to make a determination whether proposed change would have a
significant environmental impact and whether the change is within the scope of the condition
and, if either of them don't concur in that, that the item would be brought back to the
Commission or the City Council or that the Applicant would be asked to request a change."
Planning Director Doreen Liberto -Blanck stated that Items B, C and D were self - explanatory.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Commission, on a motion by Commissioner Carr,
seconded by Commissioner Tappan, and unanimously carried, the meeting was adjourned at
10:10 P.M.
Nancy Bro yh, Commission Clerk o oto, hairman
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