PC Minutes 1987-07-07Arroyo Grande Planning Conon
July 7, 1987
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman Carr
presiding. Present are Commissioners Moore, Olsen, Flores and Gerrish. Commissioners Boggess
and Soto are absent. Planning Director Rogoway is also in attendance.
MINUTE APPROVAL
Carrnissioner Olsen corrected the minutes of June 2, 1987, Page 2, under "Design" -
Condition No. 1, deleting the words "without . rezoning of the property." Upon hearing no
further corrections, the minutes of the regular meeting of June 2, 1987 were approved as
corrected on motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Flores, and unanimously
carried.
REQUEST FOR TIME EXTENSION - LOT SPLIT CASE NO. 84 -401, 225 TALLY HO ROAD.
(PATRICIA LAUTHBURY /JEFFREY CARRITHERS).
Planning Director Rogoway advised that the applicant is requesting an extension of
time to clear up matters relating to the tentative parcel map. He comnented that the request
is acceptable to staff, and it is recommended that the Planning Commission approve the time
extension.
On motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Flores, and unanimously
carried, a 12 month extension from the current expiration date was granted on Lot Split Case
No. 84 -401.
PUBLIC HEARING (CONTINUATION) - REZONING CASE NO. 87 -201, PROPOSED ZONE
CHANGE FROM "R -1" SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DIS'T'RICT TO "R -1 -D" SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT WITH A DESIGN OVERRIDE, HILLCREST DRIVE AREA.
(ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION).
Upon hearing no objections to the request for continuance, Chairman Carr advised the
matter of the Hillcrest Rezoning would be continued to the next Planning Commission meeting of
July 21, 1987.
PUBLIC HEARING (CONTINUATION) - TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 555 - UNIT 5,
OAKCRE T ESTATES, 33 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, HUASNA ROAD. (ED DORFMAN).
Planning Director Rogoway advised that this matter was reviewed by the Carmission at
their last meeting and was referred back to the staff for further information. He stated that
the Staff Advisory Committee reviewed the original approvals of the tract and that a letter
prepared by Paul Karp, Public Works Director, is included in the agenda packet reciting the
history and the recommendations applying to Unit 5, particularly with respect to the issue of
drainage. He noted that Mr. Karp's letter dated June 26, 1987 supersedes the staff report
dated June 10, 1987. Mr. Rogoway briefly reviewed Mr. Karp's letter and the summary of the
conditions listed in the staff report dated July 1, 1987.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public hearing for
Tentative Tract Map No. 555, Unit 5, had been duly published and .property owners notified,
Chairman Carr declared the hearing open.
Ed Dorfman, 224.. LaCresta, applicant, stated this is the fifth phase of an existing
subdivision and, in his opinion, this has been a very successful project., He commented with
regard to Condition #6 requiring a 6 ft. neighborhood fence, stating that some people like 5 ft.
fences, and they would like to have the flexibility to provide what the prospective buyers want.
He stated he would prefer the condition not specify the fence height, and perhaps reword the
condition to specify that "...fence shall be up to 6 ft."
Tim Garing, of Garing, Taylor & Associates, engineers for the tract, spoke about the
proposed drainage plan and the conditions listed in Mr. Karp's letter regarding drainage.
Commissioner Gerrish suggested that Mr. Karp's letter, dated June 26, 1987 be attached as a
condition of approval of the map, along with the conditions listed in the staff report dated July
1, 1987.
Bill Shull, 115 Rosewood, stated he is more than satisfied that adequate provisions are
being made for the runoff, and he recommended that the project be approved.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed tentative tract, Chairman Carr
declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Moore commented that most of the water off of Oakcrest is not the
problem; the water is coming from outside the City.
After further discussion, the following action was taken approving the Tentative Tract
Map, with the understanding that Mr. Karp's memo, dated June 28, 1987, be included as a part
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of the conditions, and that Condition No. 6 of the staff report, dated July 1, 1987 be amended
to read: "That the developer shall provide a neighborhood fence up to 6 ft. in height along
the rear and side property lines of each lot, except the side property lines of Lots 67 and 82 ".
Also, findings were made to include the issuance of a Conditional Negative Declaration subject
to:
1. The applicant's engineer shall submit a study of drainage flowing into the tract
and propose alternative drainage solutions to the satisfaction of the Public Works
Director, in advance of recordation.
2. The installation of fire fighting facilities to the satisfaction of the Fire Chief.
Said facilities shall be shown on the tentative map.
RESOLUTION 'NO. 87 -1128
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACT
MAP NO. 555, UNIT 5, "OAKCRFST ESTATES ".
On motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Coninissioner Flores, and by the
following roll call vote to wit:
AYES: Connnissioners Olsen, Flores Gerrish and Chairman Carr
NOES: Commissioner Moore
ABSENT: Commissioners Soto and Boggess
the foregoing• Resolution was adopted this 7th day of July 1987.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING CASE NO. 87 -196, 250 RIDGEVIEW WAY, PROPOSED
ZONE CHANGE FROM "RA -B3" RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT (40,000 SQ. FT.
MIN. BLDG. SITE) TO "RA -B2" RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT (20,000 SQ. FT.
MIN. BLDG. SITE). (SALLY WHITE).
Planning Director Rogoway advised that three property owners are requesting a zone
change on their properties. All three properties would front on Ridgeview Way if it were to be
extended along the property lines on the parcels, however, at the present time Ridgeview Way
terminates at the first parcel. He stated that the properties requested for rezoning are 1.5
acres, 6.89 acres and 2.65 acres. The purpose of the rezoning, obviously, is to allow division
and development of the property. He noted that zoning on two sides of the property is
currently "RA -B2 ", and on the other two sides is unincorporated territory. Mr. Rogoway
further stated it is staff's recomnendation that the Commission recommend to the Council to
rezone this property. Also, because it is staff's feeling that there are no environmental issues
involved, a Negative Declaration is also recommended.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public hearing for
Rezoning Case No. 87 -196 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Carr
declared the hearing open.
Jerry White, speaking for the applicant, spoke in favor of the zone change. He
advised that there is one house on each of the three lots, and on Mrs. White's property there is
one accessory building..
Ed Chadwell, 290 Ridgeview Way and Marjorie Askland, 101 Ridgeview Way, owners of
the other two properties, spoke in favor of the requested zone change.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed zone change, Chairman Carr
declared the hearing closed.
Considerable discussion followed regarding the creation of more flag lots. Cannissioner
Flores canmented that the properties are very deep. He inquired if a requirement could be
made that lot splits not be submitted in flag lot configurations. Jerry White stated they were
initially told by staff that flag lots are discouraged. He further stated they would not include
flag lots in their proposal.
After further discussion, Commissioner Gerrish moved to approve Lot Split Case No. 87-
196 from "RA -B3" to "RA -B2 ". Motion lost for lack of a second.
Commissioner Flores moved to approve Rezoning Case 87 -196 with a " -D" Overlay
requiring that all lots be designed to front on a standard street, and that a finding be made
that a Negative Declaration be issued. Motion seconded by Commissioner Olsen. The motion
was lost because of the lack of four affirmative votes required for a zone change.
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Conrinissioner Gerrish commented, in his opinion, the " -D" Overlay in this rezoning is
inappropriate. After further discussion, on motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by
Commissioner Flores, and carried, that the matter be closed and the rezoning case be
transnitted to the Council without a recommendation from the Planning Commission.
COMMISSIONER SOTO ENTERED THE MEETING DURING THE ABOVE DISCUSSION.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING CASE NO. 87 -198, RANCHO GRANDE AMENDMENT TO
PLANNED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE 186 C.S. (OTISE, INC.).
Chairman Carr advised that this matter has been continued to the Planning Commission
meeting of July 21, 1987 at the applicant's request.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 87 -383, REMODEL EXISTING RESIDENCE FOR A
DENTISTS OFFICE, 1560 CHILTON STREET, IN THE "P-C" PROFESSIONAL COMMERCIAL
DISTRICT. (LARRY SMITH).
Planning Director Rogoway advised that this application is to convert an existing house
into a dentist's office. He stated there is considerable grading required for the conversion,
particularly to construct a parking lot to meet the requirements of the ordinance. He noted
that construction of the dental office will include wood siding, white trim, brown accents, and a
shingle roof. A landscape plan has been submitted and will be reviewed by the Parks and
Recreation Director for final approval. He further stated that if the Commission finds that the
conditions set forth by the Staff Advisory Committee are appropriate as listed in the staff
report dated July 1, 1987, staff recommends approval of the architectural review.
There was some concern expressed regarding the Chilton Street access. Brian Starr,
representing the applicant, stated that Dr. Smith would like to have an El Camino Real address,
and would like to have his patients access from El Camino Real, and he doesn't plan to use the
Chilton Street access. Commissioner Gerrish suggested a condition be added restricting access
onto Chilton Street pending approval of the Fire Chief.
After a brief discussion, on motion by Comn issioner Soto, seconded by Carmissioner
Olsen, and unanimously carried, Architectural Review Case No. 87 -383 was approved subject to
the conditions listed in the staff report dated July 1, 1987, and the addition of Condition No. 5
to read: "Cltai Street access will be modified for limited access bred on input from the Fire
Department"
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 87 -390, GRAND AVENUE PROFESSIONAL CENTER,
1190 GRAND AVENUE, IN THE "C-2" GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. (RON
HARRIS).
Planning Director Rogoway advised that this matter is coming back to the Commission
due to changes being constructed on the project that were not included in the original approval.
As a result, the applicant is coming back with an amendment to the previously approved
architectural plans. The developers are also asking for a change in the color scheme. Mr.
Rogoway referred to a sketch of the proposed signs and their intended locations.
Mr. Perry Lotta, with LeCroix Development, spoke regarding the proposed signs and the
revised landscaping plans. He advised that the Parks and Recreation Director has reviewed the
landscaping plan and felt that the new plan was acceptable.
After a brief discussion, Architectural Review Case No. 87 -390 was approved based on
the color board and the landscape plan submitted, on motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by
Commissioner Flores, motion carried with two "no" votes.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 87 -391, CARL'S JR. RESTAURANT, 1590 W. BRANCH
STREET, IN THE "P-D" PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. (CARL KARCHER
ENTERPRISES).
Planning Director Rogoway advised that the applicant has submitted some minor changes
to the existing Carl's Jr. Restaurant on West Branch Street. He noted that the changes
include the installation of a yellow awning completely around the building, and the installation
of lighting under the eaves of the building which would create an attractive effect. Also,
Carl's is proposing to install a cashier window for take out on the exterior of the building, and
amend the signs existing on the property.
With regard to the signs, Mr. Rogoway advised that Carl's now has 4 signs built into
the tile roof on each side of the building. They now want a monument sign on the grass close
to Branch Street. Staff's concern is the interpretation of the ordinance limiting signs to a
maximum of two.
John Waddell, representing Carl's Jr., stated they want to install a pedestal sign that
can be seen from Branch Street. There was some discussion regarding removal of one of the
signs from the roof on the north side to allow placement of the monument sign.
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After discussion, Architectural Review Case No. 87 -391 was approved on motion by
Camrissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and unanimously carried, with the
understanding that the sign request is subject to approval of a sign application.
REQUEST FOR INTERPRETATION (ORDINANCE 140 C.S.) - PARCEL 3, OAK PARK ACRDS.
(KIRBY K. GORDON).
' Planning Director Rogoway advised that this item is being continued for two weeks at
the request of the applicant.
REVIEW - 1987/1988 CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS BUDGET.
Planning Director Rogoway referred to the memo from the City Manager, dated May 14,
1987, relative to the Capital Improvements Program Budget, which outlines monies to be spent on
projects throughout the City . and from which funds the monies would be derived. Mr. Rogoway
stated that staff has reviewed all of the projects and find them to be in keeping, with the
recommendations and policies contained in the City's General Plan. The Planning Commission is
asked to review the budget and to make a determination as to whether the expenditures are in
conformance with the General Plan.
The Ca nission expressed concerns that planning should begin for the greenbelt that
has been discussed to run into the Grover City area; that a higher priority should be given to
improvements to the Pearwood basin, and higher priority given to Traffic Way improvements.
Commissioner Soto stated he appreciates the opportunity to review the Capital Improvements
Budget, and he appreciates the job that Bob Mack is doing for the City.
After further discussion, it was the concensus of the Care fission that there were no
projects proposed that would not be in conformance with the General Plan.
S1'UDY SESSION - CONSERVATION ELEMENT
The Planning Commission agreed to hold a study session on Monday, July 27th at 7:00
P.M. to review a draft of the Conservation Element.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned by
the Chairman at 10:35 P.M.
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