PC Minutes 1986-01-07234
ARROYO- GRANDE PLANNII`TG COMMISSION
January 7, 1986
The Arroyo Grande Planning Ccrrrnission met in regular session with CThair„an - Gerrish
presiding. Present are Corrrnissioners Boggess, Olsen, Moore, Soto and Flores. C rraissioner
Carr is absent. Planning Director Eisner is also in attendance.
MINUTE APPROVAL . .
Hearing no additions or .corrections, the riinutes of the regular greetings of November
19, 1985 and - December 3, 1985 were approved by the Gfiairr an as prepared.
PUBLIC HEARIIIG - LOT SPLIT CASE . NO. 85;421 ; BELL STREET IN ' ice "R -1"
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT. (SAN LUIS ENGINEERENG, AGENTS FOR
JEFFREY SALSER).
Planning Director . Eisner advised the request is for a lot line adjustment at 114-116
Bell Street. The Zoning is R -1, Single Family Residential. The property is 50 ft. in ,vidth, with
a depth of 124 ft.; in effect, the property corsists of two 25 ft. lots. He pointed out that in
1984 the Planning Commission approved a request for a Use Permit to :permit a second residence
on the property, and it was at that time that the residence at 114 Bell Street was constructed.
One of the conditions of the Use Permit was that no further division of the property would take
place. Mr. Eisner stated that the request is not teehnically dividing the property any further,
but is taking the lot line that runs down the middle and adjusts the line running across. With
regard to the dimersiors, Mr. Eisner advised. that • the rear property line running between the
two dwellings would be 5,5 ft., or a distance of 11 ft. between • the two buildings: •
Upon being assured by =the Planning Secretary that public hearing for Lot Split. Case
No. 85 -421 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish opened the
public hearing. •
Jim • NicGilli.5, Surveyor for San Luis Engineering, representing the applicant, spoke in
favor of the Lot - Split... He stated that nothing will be changed • by drawing ' a line between. the
two buildings and, as far as long range, planning is concerned, the configuration. being offered is
better than 'what is there now. He cog :rented by approving the requested lot split, the
Commission will be providing a starter home for young people in the caraway. -Lloyd Brazil,
603 Cornwall, stated he owns property_ across the street identical to this property, and inquired.
if he would be entitled to the same split. Chairman Gerrish explained the request is not really
splitting the property, but realigning the lot. line. Marie .Cattoir; 195 Orchid Lane, spoke in
favor of the request being granted, stating it seems like a very logical request.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed lot split, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing cicsed . -
Coi. wissioner Olsen stated, for all practical purposes, the request could result in a lot
split and, in her opinion, this might set a precedent that she would not be in favor of.
Commissioner Flores stated he is also concerned that this would be setting a precedent.
Chairman Gerrish cuff ented that there are two legal existing lots right now and the applicant
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is not asking for any r re lots, and since the buildings are already there, he= doesn't see any
problem with the request. Commissioner Moore stated the nature of the neighborhood could be
changed by granting the, request and setting a precedent, and it would be going against the
policy of the Council by increasing the density. He pointed out that the older house is setting
in a hole • ai ut • 4 ft. deep and there is going to be sorre difficulty getting a drivewa into it.
He noted that the area has a lot of 25 ft. lots just like this one. Corrassioner Boggess stated
it seers the original intention in this case was to avoid further splitting and malting two tiny
lots.
After further discussion, Lot Split Case No. 85 -421 was denied on motion by
Coandssioner Moore, seconded by Commissioner Soto, motion carried with one "no" vote.
PUBLIC REARING - LOT SPLIT CASE NO. 85 -415, PROPERTY LOCA1ED ON HIGHWAY
227 BETWEEN PASEO STREET AND CORBETT CANYON ROAD, IN THE "RA-B3"
RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. (SAN LUIS ENGI EERING, AGENTS FOR L.
E;. GLgI)OTII).
Planning Director Eisner advised this matter is being continued to the meeting of
January 21, 1986.
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PUBLIC BEARING - LOT SPLIT CASE NO. 85 -419, JAMES.. WAY, DT THE "RA -B2"
RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. (W. A. AND S. J.WEITRAT).
Planning Director Eisner advised the request is for a lot split to create 3 parcels from
one large lot; current zoning on the property is "RA -B2 ". Minimum lot size is 20,000 sq. ft
net. The proposed lot split would create one lot of 30,295 sq. ft. and one flag lot of 18,877
sq. ft. with a 24 ft. flag extending to Canyon Way; and a third lot of 20,000 sq. ft. He
pointed out that the Qty Council's policy has been to discourage the creating of flag lots in
the C:Ity, and the Planning Commission policy has been to require, there flag lots are necessary,
that the body of the parcel (exclusive of the flag stern) contain the minimum square footage
required by the zoning.
Mr. Eisner stated that the map has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Coi,mittee and
should the Corrriission choose to approve the request, Staff Advisory Committee recommends that
the 8 conditions listed in the staff report be included in the approval.
Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for Lot Split Case
No. 85 -419 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the
hearing open.
Bill Weitkamp, 251 James Way, applicant, spoke in favor of the lot split being
approved. Mr. Weitkamp presented a map and briefly reviewed the history of the Canyon Way
Improvement District. He advised that of the 25 lots in the District, 16 were flag lots. Judy
Ca Tilley, 205 Canyon Way, stated they were in the original Assessment District and it was
understood at that time that in order for the property owners to be able - td afford to
participate in the District, flag lots would be necessary. She stated their house is on a flag lot
and, in her opinion, flag lots do not detract from the neighborhood; that is the way the
neighborhood is established right now. Larry Rohloff stated he was the assessment engineer for
the District, and he could attest to what the property owners have said regarding flag lots.
Sally Weitkamp, 251 James Way, and Marilyn Carfarchia, 241 James Way, spoke in favor of the
lot split being approved.
Hearing no feather comments for or against the proposed lot split, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing closed.
After discussion, on motion by Commissioner Moore, seconded by Commissioner Olsen,
and unanimously carried, Lot Split Case No. 85 -419 was approved subject to the 8 conditions
listed in the staff report, dated January . 7, 1986, with Condition No. 3 amended to read
"Developer to employ an engineering firm and have assessment split forwarded to the aty".
PUBLIC BLEARING - LOT SPLIT CASE NO. 85-418, 241 JAIlf WAY IN TEE "RA -B2"
RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. (M. AND M. CARFARC,HIA),
Planning Director Eisner advised this is a request similar to the Weitkamp lot split. He
pointed out that all three lots are over 20,000 sq. ft. 'The request has been reviewed by the
Staff Advisory Committee and is submitted for Commission review subject to the 8 conditions
listed in the staff report, dated January 7, 1986, with Condition No. 3 amended to read
"Developer to employ an engineering firm and have assessment split forwarded to the aty."
Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for Lot Split Case
No. 35-413 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the
hearing open.
Hearing no comments for or against the proposed lot split, Chairman Gerrish declared
the hearing closed.
After a brief discussion, Lot Split Case No. 85 -418 was approved on motion by
Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Boggess, and unanimously carried, subject to the 8
conditions listed in the staff report dated January 7, 1986.
PUBLIC HEARING - LOT SPLIT CASE NO. 85 -419, JAMES WAY, IN THE "RA -B2"
RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT. (-J. CARRIIITERS, AGENT FOR PAT WEBER,
ETAL.)
Planning Director Eisner advised that the subject property was before the Commission a
few months ago with a request for a zone change and a parcel map for three lots. At that
time the request was denied. The proposal before the Commission tonight divides the property
into two parcels of 20,096 (net) sq. ft. each. Zoning on this parcel is "RA -B2" which requires
a 20,000 sq, ft. minimum lot size. The proposed lots are consistent with the land pattern in the
surrounding neighborhood. He noted that the matter has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory
Committee and is submitted with a recommendation for approval subject to the 7 conditions listed
in the staff report, dated January 7, 1986.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public hearing for Lot
Split Case No. 85-419 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing open. Jeffrey Carrithers, representing the applicant, spoke in favor of the
lot split, commenting that the lot sizes conform to the requirements of the District.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed lot split, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing closed.
After a brief dikcasion, Lot Split Case No. 85 -419 was approved subject to the 7
conditions listed in the staff report dated January 7, 1986, on motion by Commissioner Soto,
seconded by Commissioner Moore, and unanimously carried.
PUBLIC BEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO. 84 -368, (RESUBr1ITTAL - ORIGINAL USE
PERMIT EXPIRED) NEW CHURCH FACILITIES, NORTHEAST CORNER OF OAK PARX
BOULEVARD AND JAMES WAY. (OAK PARX FOURSQUARE CHURCH).
Planning Director Eisner advised that the request is for renewal of an expired Use
Permit previously approved by the Planning Corrrnission and City Council. He pointed out that
because the church was unable to exercise the permit within one year it is necessary for the
Planning Corrrnission and Council to re -adopt the original use permit. He stated there have
been some modifications to the plans and specifications as originally subratted and approved.
Staff has reviewed the changes and recommends approval subject to the 5 conditions listed in
the staff report dated January 7, 1986, in addition to the original conditions listed in the staff
report dated May 15, 1984.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public hearing for Use
Permit Case No. 84-368 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing open.
Richard Day, 206 Wildwood Lane, Associate Pastor of the Church, spoke in favor of
the Use Permit being granted. He advised the original use permit expired due to an oversight
on their part.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed use permit, Chairman Gerrish
declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Olsen expressed concern regarding traffic and inquired as to the status of
the Oak Park Interchange. Planning Director Eisner stated, to the best of his knowledge, until
something changes, it is assumed that all previous a°reements remain in effect.. Chairman
Gerrish agreed that this is a problem but, in his opinion, there is nothing further the Commission
can do about it. Connissioner Boggess stated he doesn't think a church generates the traffic
that other businesses do.
On motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Eoggess, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYE: Comarissioners Soto, Boggess, Flores and Chairman Gerrish
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioners Olsen and Moore
ABSENT: Coa rrissoner Carr
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of January X1986.
PUBLIC }TEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO. 85.404, DEVELOPMENT OF A 5- -UNIT
PROFESSIONAL OFFICE. CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX (AIR? SPACE CONDOMINIUM), 717
GRAND AVENUE IN 'lliE "H -S" HIGHWAY SERVICE DIST2ICT. (BILL AWA.LTJCIARLES
JEFFRIES).
Planning Director Eisner advised the application is x for a tentative tract map and
accefrpanying Conditional Use Permit for a 5 unit professional loffice condominium at 717 Grand
Avenue; an :application for architectural review also accomcanes the condominium application.
Mr,. Eisner briefly reviewed the application., noting that the proposal is to develop a
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After a brief discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 86-107i:
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL
OF USE PERMIT CASE NO. 84 -368, APPLIED FOR BY
OAK PARK FOURSQUARE CHURCH.
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condominium building on a site 100 ft. wide and 125 ft. deer). The zoning-on the parcel is "H-
S". The proposed building is 4800 sq. ft. and will require 24 parking spaces, which are being .
provided. The architectural review includes a 6' x 10' pedestal sign which is - consistent with •
the development standards of the City. Also the colors and materials proposed for the
development are consistent with the commercial development standards of the City. Mr. Eisner
advised that the three part application has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Committee and
the Architectural Review/Subdivision Review Coiii and is submitted for approval with the
11 conditions listed in the staff report, dated January 7, 1936.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public hearing for Use
Permit Case No. 85 -404 and Tentative Tract Map No. 1378 had been duly published and
property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open.
Larry Rohloff, engineer for the applicant, spoke in favor of the application being
approved. DIM. Rohloff referred to Condition No. 4 of the staff report requiring "all parking
spaces shall be 10' x 20' clear ". He pointed out that up to 30% of the parking can be compact
spaces. The condition was amended to add the words "...except compact spaces ". With regard
to Condition No. 11 relative to a sewer manhole on Grand Avenue, it was agreed to amend that
condition to read: "Sewer plan shall be provided to the satisfaction of the Public Works
Director, includin a sewer access on Grand Avenue if found to be required by the Public
Works Director ".
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed Use Permit and 'Tract Map,
Chairman _ Gerrish declared the he closed.
After a brief discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 86 -107
A RESOLUTION OF 'I1-1k. PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE
PERMIT, CASE NO. 85-404, APPLIED FOR BY
BILL AWALT AND CHARLES JEFFRIES.
On motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Moore, and by the following
roll call ._ vote, . to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Moore, Boggess, Flores, Olsen, Soto and Chairman
Gerrish
NOES: None
ASSENT: Couy„issioner Carr
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of January 1986.
RESOLUTION NO. 86- -1073
A RESOLUTION OF T}iE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACT
MAP NO. 1378, AND REFERRAL TO '313.1: CITY COUNCIL
FOR INFORMATIONAL PURSES ONLY.
On motion by Coandsssioner Moore, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Moore, Boggess, Flores, Olsen, Soto and Chairman
Gerrish
NO3: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Carr
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of January 1986.
Architectural Review Case No. 85 -347. Planning Director Eisner showed a colors and
materials board to the Commission. He advised that the project has been reviewed by the
Architectural Review Committee and is recommended for approval. After discussion,
Architectural Review Case No. 35 -347 was approved on motion by Commissioner Boggess,
seconded by Commissioner Soto, and unanimously carried.
PUBLIC HEARING - ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO INCORPORATE TEXT
MODIFICATIGNS,, AND TO IMPLEMENT POLICM ADOPTED AS PART OF TBE . CITY'S
GENERAL PLAN.
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Planning Director Eisner advised that the zoning map amendment is to incorporate - the
text dealing with the commercial changes made by the Car mission and Council a few months ago.
He pointed out that the draft text amendment approved by the Coninission modifies the "CG-N"
zone by changing the title to "C-1"; adding a "C -2" zone which will create a General
Commercial zoning category; and modifying the existing "H -S" zone by changing the .title to "C-
3" (Highway Service Comercial), and adjusts the development standards. Mr. Eisner stated it is
now necessary for the Planning Comdssion to review the accompanying map so that both the
text and map may be heard concurrently by the aty Council. He stated that the issue here is
that the zoning does meet the consistency text of. the State planning law.
Upon being assured by the Planning Corrmriission Secretary that public hearing for the
proposed zoning map amendment had been duly published and posted, Chairman Gerrish declared
the hearing open.
There being no comments from the audience for or against the proposed amendment,
Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed, and the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 85 -1074
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMISSION OF ME
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING 10 THE CITY
COUNCIL ADOPTION OF ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO
INCORPORATE TEXT MODIFICATIONS, AND TO IMPLEMENT
POLICIES ADOPTED AS PART 01? THE CITY'S GENERAL
PLAN.
On motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Moore, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Moore, Soto, Flores, Boggess and Chairman
Gerrish
NOM: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Olsen
ABSENT: Comnissioner Carr
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th' day of January 1986.
ARCIIITEGIURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 85 -354 - SIGN PROPOSAL, Cry PLAZA SHOWING
CEWIER, NORTITEAST CORNER OF NO. HALCYON ROAD AND GRAND AVENUE.
(MURRAY SIGN CO.).
Planning Director Eisner advised the request is for a sign program submitted by the
Murray Sign Corporation, representing 7 -11 Stores, Inc. The sign program includes a - monument
sign to be located on the Grand Avenue frontage; an entryway sign to be located on the
Halcyon Road frontage; a similar sign to be located on Rena Street Frontage; and space
allocations for signs to be attached to the facade of the building. Mr. Eisner advised that
staff has reviewed the material and recommend that, if the Corrmrission chooses
to approve the sign plan, the • approval be at a standards level subject to resubmission of
modified drat, ings. He stated the applicant is requesting a sign on Grand Avenue 15' x 14',
noting that staff has no problem with the length of the sign, but would recon r a sign no
higher than 8 ft. He further stated that after reviewing the signs for Rena and Halcyon, staff
would recondnend that no sign over 4' in overall height be approved. The sign proposal for
building sio s is consistent with facia sign requirements.
nairman Gerrish stated, in his opinion, three free standing signs are a lot for that
property, and even an 8 ft. sign would be a problem with sight distance. He stated he would
rather see a pole sign rather than a monument sign from a sight standpoint. Consrissioner Soto
stated he feels a pole sign would be more appropriate than a monument sign. Commissioner
.Flores stated he secs no problem with the sign with the exception of the height.
After discussion, on motion by Comnissioner Olsen, seconded by Commissioner Boggess,
motion carried with two "no" votes, that the application be rejected and sent back to the
.applicant with the recommendations as discussed, and that the pedestal signs on Rena and
Halcyon Road be eliminated
COMMUNICATIONS
Planning Director Eisner advised the League of Gglifornia Mies Annual Planning
C.orn;sioners Institute is being held March 12th through March 14th, and requested the
Ccrnssione s let him know if they would be interested in attending:. •
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suggested that the Commission consider amending the Ordinance to remove the provision that
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allows a second r on R -1 lots. He also su modifying the ordinances, both the
Subdivision Ordinance and the Zoning Ordinance, to require that where we get into the
development of some of the old narrow lots in the city, . that one of the conditions of approval
would be reversion of the lot lines, in other words,. whenever We have a proposal that
encompasses two or more lots, a standard condition should be that the lot lines disappear and it
becomes one lot.
Chairman Gerrish pointed out that ConTrissicner Soto is no longer able to serve on the
Architectural Review Cenu,ittee because of his schedule. He commented that, the City Council
having changed the Ordinance, gives the Architectural Review Con ittee essentially no power
at nil. He requested the Commission consider eliminating that Corrnnittee and hearing everything
at the Commission level. Chairman Gerrish requested that the proposal to eliminate the function
of the Architectural Review Corrmittee be placed on the next agenda.
ADJOURNjjENT
There being no further business before,. the Commission, the meeting was adjourned at
9 :15 P.M. by the Chairman.
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