PC Minutes 1985-08-20198
ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
August 20, 1985
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with Vice Chairman Carr
presiding. Present are. Cormiissioners Moore, Olsen, Soto, Boggess and Flores. Chairman Gerrish
is absent. Planning Director Eisner is also in attendance.
M1 U'1E APPROVAL
Hearing no additions or corrections, the minutes of the regular meeting of August 6,
1985 were approved as prepared on motion by Commissioner: Moore, seconded . by Commissioner
Soto, and unanimously carried.
ELECIION OF .OFFICERS FOR :FISCAL YEAR 1985 -1986.
Vice -Chairman Carr opened nominations for Chairman. Robert "Carr - was nominated for
Chairman by Commissioner Boggess, seconded by Commmissioner. Moore.,
William Gerrish was nominated for Chairman by Commissioner Olsen, seconded by Commissioner
Soto. Vice Chairman Carr closed nominations for Chairman. On a voice vote, William Gerrish
was elected Chairman of the Planning Car mission for the fiscal year 1985 -86.
Vice Chairman Carr opened nominations for Vice Chairman. Robert Carr was nominated
for Vice Chairman by Commissioner Olsen, seconded by Commissioner Boggess. John Soto was
nominated for, Vice Chairman by Commissioner Moore, seconded by Vice Chairman Carr. Robert
Carr was elected Vice Chairman of the Planning . Commission for- the fiscal year 1985 -86.
Gbanittee Appointments.
Vice Chairman Carr advised that two representatives are needed for the Architectural
Review Committee. Planning Director Eisner suggested perhaps changing the time and meeting
day might be more convenient for some of the Commissioners to attend. After discussion, the
Architectural Review Cc m ittee/Minor Subdivision Committee and Subdivision Review Board
meeting day and time was changed to the first and third Thursday of every month at 5:00 P.M.
After further discussion, Commissioners Soto and Flores were appointed to the C ommnittee.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 85 -339, WALL SIGN, 1017 -A GRAND AVENUE.
(JOSEPH GERAGHTY).
This matter was continued to the next meeting since there were some questions
regarding the proposed signs.
ARCIIIZECIURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 85 -338, CORBETF CANYON ROAD , ENTRANCE
GATE, WILDWOOD RANCH. (BONITA HOMES, INC.)
Planning Director Eisner advised the request is for a closing gate to serve as an
entrance to the Wildwood Ranch. In reviewing the files from the very beginning there seems to
have been an understanding on the part of the developers that they intended to have an
enclosed community, however, as a part of the review under the Planned Development, there was
never specific approval given for the monument gate. •
Mr. Eisner stated that the Staff Advisory Committee had a number of concerns
regarding the proposal and staff has tried, through the recommended conditions, to address those
concerns. Also, the applicants have asked to close off the Platino entrance. He referred to a
memo from the Public Works Director, dated August 20, 1985, indicating that if the Planning
Commission and City Council approve the entry gate, there would be no objections to the closure
of the Platino Lane access, and the closure should be handled in an aesthetic manner subject to
the CDrnrission and Council's approval.
Commissioner Soto stated his concerns are that the Commission does . not have a
complete design for the Platino Lane closure; we don't know how it affects the lot sizes on both
sides if it is a hammerhead turn around.
Chuck Tempts, Wildwood Ranch developer, advised that the fence on the rear side is
strictly a board type fence that if touched by an automobile, it collapses. He commented the
fence is only there to prevent automobiles from coining through unnecessarily. He _ further
stated that if the hammerhead turn around was put in, it would not affect any of the lots at all;
it would be coming out of the open space.
Vice Chairman Carr stated he feels it is necessary for the City to be assured that
there will be a way to turn around up there, and he would like to see a design on the Platino
fence and turn around. Planning Director Eisner recommended that the matter of the front
gate be sent on to the City Council, and that the matter of Platino be reviewed at the next
Planning Gomrrission meeting.
After further discussion, on motion by Commissioner Boggess, seconded by Commissioner
Soto, and unanimously carried, Architectural Review Case No. 85 -338 was approved, and the
matter of the closure of Platino Lane be continued to the meeting of September 3, 1985.
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ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 85 -340, TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING, 1166 AND
1190 GRAND AVENUE. (RON HARRIS /ORIN COCKS).
Planning Director Eisner advised the application is for a use that is permitted in the
Highway Service District. He stated the site area is 32,800 square feet and the building area
covers approximately 4,500 sq. ft., representing 15% of the land area. Parking is provided for
40 cars, which meets the requirements of the Zoning Ordinance. He noted that total site
coverage, including parking, represents 68% which is within the limits prescribed by Ordinance.
The matter has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Committee and Architectural Review
Committee.
Vice Chairman Carr stated that on the parking section of the plan, the mini - storage is
through the parking lot and he is concerned that there are going to be people coming and going
to the office buildings and to the mini - storage through the parking lot area. Planning Director
Eisner advised that the Commission can indicate, as a condition, that the landscaping area be 4
ft. walkways for the purpose of keeping pedestrians out of the driveway.
The architect for the project stated they had spoke to the Fire Chief regarding Item
No. 2 of' the reconrnended conditions, and it his feeling that condition could be negated.
After further discussion, Architectural Review Case No. 85-340 was approved on
notion by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner Flores, and unanimously carried, subject
to the 9 conditions listed in the staff report dated August 20, 1985, amended as follows:
1. Install new fire hydrant as indicated.
2. Install automatic fire sprinkler system as per National Fire
Prevention Association, subject to final approval by the Fire
Chief.
3. Detailed landscaping and irrigation plan approval of Planning
Camrission prior to issuance of a building permit.
4. Install 6" concrete curb around landscaping, subject to approval
of the Planning Qom i sion.
5. Approval of plan for water and sewer service prior to issuance
of a building permit.
6. Detailed grading and drainage plan subject to approval of the
Public Works Department prior to issuance of a building permit.
7. Handicapped space and handicapped access shall be provided.
8. A sign program shall be provided subject to the approval of the
Planning Commission.
9. Installation of curb and gutter prior to Certificate of Occupancy.
PUBLIC HEARING - GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 85-4, HEAVY
COMMERCIAL/LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DESIGNATION,
PROPERTY GENERALLY LOCATED ON JUNIPER AND POPLAR STREET.
Planning Director Eisner advised this item will appear as a part of the second round of
General Plan Amendments which is now tentatively scheduled for October.
PUBLIC HEARING - GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 85 HEAVY
COMMERCIAL/LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT; MEDIUM HIGH
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT; AND HEAVY
COMMERCIAL/LIGHT INDUSTRIAL TO MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, PROPERTY
GENERALLY LOCATED ON EAST BRANCH STREET. (LOOMIS PROPERTY AND OTHERS).
(CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE).
Planning Director Eisner advised that staff has received the traffic analysis from the
consultants, and he received a call this afternoon from the people doing the soils analysis
advising they expect to have the results within 7 to 9 days and, therefore, the information
should be available for the Commission's second meeting in September and will be p laced on the
agenda at that time.
CONTINUATION - PUBLIC HEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO. 85 -395, AN 8 LOT OFFICE
CONDOMINIUM IN THE "P-C" PROFESSIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, 224, 230, 236 SO.
HALCYON ROAD, AND 910 DODSON WAY. (HALCYON OAKS MEDICAL CENTER/DR.
ROBERT MANNING).
Planning Director Eisner advised that this application is now complete and will appear
on the Commission's agenda for the meeting of September 3, 1985.
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CONTINUATION - PUBLIC HEARING - REVIEW OF USE PERMIT CASE NO. 68 -127, BOB'S
AUTO BODY SHOP, 931 -933 GRAND AVENUE. (ROBERT CROCKETT).
Planning Director Eisner reported that during the interim period there has been an
effort made to improve the situation that was reported by the Police Department on two
separate occasions. He noted that progress has been made in clearing a number of derelict
automobiles from the back of the property, and it appears that whatever .work that is taking
place is being done within the structure, which is one of the conditions of the Use Permit. He
recommended that this matter be continued for another two weeks so that the owner can
continue w ith his efforts. He advised that staff will be prepared to report back to the
Commission with a final recommendation at that time.
After a brief discussion, on motion by Commissioner Olsen, seconded by Commissioner
Soto, and unanimously carried, review of Use Permit Case No. 68-127 was continued to the net
Planning Corrmission meeting of September 3, 1985.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING CASE NO. 85 -192, ZONE CHANGE FROM "RA -B2" !ID
"RA- B1 -D ", 200 BLOCK OF JAMES WAY. (SAN LUIS ENGINEERING, AGENT FOR
HAROLD LEE).
Planning Director Eisner advised that the request for rezoning was anticipated by the
Planning Comtrnssion. He reviewed that about six weeks ago the Cormnssion and the City
Council entertained a zone change from "RA -B2" to "RA -Bl -D" on a piece of property
located on the corner of Tally Ho Road and James Way. The issue at that time centered
around the densities of the Lauthbury property which were found to be consistent with the
surrounding neighborhood. He stated the City was able to get the dedication of the necessary
land to widen James Way and Tally Ho Road to full improvements.
Mr. Eisner stated that based on staff's review and the action taken on the Lauthbury
property, the requested zone change is consistent with the General Plan and Zoning pattern for
the area. He noted that the use of the property is still subject to procedures that are to be
reviewed by this Cormiission, and also the zone change does not get the dedication for land for
the widening of James Way; that would be by way of a parcel map, etc.
Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary' that public ` hearing for Rezoning Case
No. 85 -192 had been duly published and proper ty owners notified, Vice Chairman Carr declared
the hearing open.
Dave Rhiner, San Luis Engineers, representing the applicant, spoke in favor of the
proposed zone change. He advised that the size of the parcel would be about 41,000 feet
after a 32 ft. wide ° dedication to the City. He further advised that if the zoning is approved,
the applicant will be submitting a tentative parcel map to the Commission.
Mr. Bill Weitkamp and Sally Weitkamp, 251 James Way, and Adele Hall, 244 James Way,
spoke against the proposed zone change, stating they feel the property should be left "RA -B2 ".
Harold Lee, applicant, spoke in favor of the zone change.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed zone change, Vice Chairman
Carr declared the hearing closed.
After further discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 85 -1046
Commissioner Soto reminded the applicant that the City Council is not in favor of flag
lots. Vice Chairman Carr commented that, in his opinion, the current zoning is more in keeping
with the earlier planning of the City for that area to maintain the 20,000 sq. ft. minimum lot
size. Commssioner Flores stated he feels there is no stopping if . this rezoning is approved;
other property owners on James Way will be requesting zone changes. Commissioner Olsen
stated that the comments made by the Weitkamps and Ms. Hall are concerns of the entire
neighborhood 'because of the very large lots in that area.
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF ZONE CHANGE
CASE NO. 85 -192, FILED BY SAN LUIS ENGINEERING, AGENTS
FOR' HAROLD . LEE.
On motion by Commissioner Boggess, 'seconded by Corntn issioner : Flores, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
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AYES: Commissioners Moore, Soto, Boggess, Flores and Vise Chairman
Carr
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NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Olsen
ABSENT: Chairman Gerrish
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 20th day of August 1985.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING CASE NO. 85 -193, ZONE CHANGE FROM "RA -B390
"P-D" PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, PROPERTY LOCATED AT 801 HUASNA ROAD,
ADJACENT 10 WILDWOOD RANCH. (RON OISON, AGENT FOR ELVIN A. WICAL).
Planning Director Eisner advised that the zone change request is a re- application, and
that the Planning Commission and Qty Council have seen proposals on this property 2 or 3 times
during the last year. In reviewing the proposed project, the request is for a 22 unit planned
unit development. These units are located in a series of 11 buildings. In' figuring the density
of the land area, the overall density is 2.75 units to the acre and falls well within the bounds
of the General Plan category. The development has access primarily off of a cul-de -sac, and
the rest of the property is in another holding and is in escrow. He stated the zoning request
and the accompanying tract map have been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Committee and, from
that review, 11 conditions have been recommended, which technically would be a part of the
tract map. In addition to those 11 *Conditions, it is recommended that a 12th condition be
added stating that "C. C. & R: s are subject to the final review and approval of the aty".
Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for Rezoning Case
No. 85 -193 had been duly published and property owners notified, Vice Chairman Carr declared
the hearing open.
It6n °�5lsbmi, 3l �' tino'7�aiie, spoke" in Tavor"of"ilie 'zone change; ` �
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the proposed drainage plan and pointing out that they feel this new plan w answer
drainage concerns expressed at previous meetings.
Richard Protessi, 255 Oro Drive, stated he had not been notified of this public hearing.
Planning Director Eisner advised that the matter was on the agenda and was a legally advertised
hearing and, under State law, it was continued to a time specific and no additional notice would
have been sent as a matter of practice. Mr. Protessi stated he is concerned about the traffic
flow; the proposed project will add 80 to 100 additional trips. He stated he would like to see
another way into the parceL Mary Miller, 270 Ciro' Drive, and Steve Beard, 981 Plata Road,
stated their main concern is drainage. Jean Madison, 507 Platino, stated her concern is
additional traffic, commenting that Platino is not the street to get in and out of this project.
Linda Filer, 241 Oro Drive, stated her concern about additional traffic and pointed out that
there is dangerous traffic coming down off of the hill from Goularte Road. Bruce Mcclennan,
238 Oro Drive, stated he is concerned about the drainage and the traffic. He commented he
feels this is a more acceptable design than what was previously presented.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed zone change, Vice Chairman
Carr declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Moore briefly described the proposed drainage solution, stating that the
plan will not create any drainage problems. Commissioner Olsen stated, in her opinion, the
proposal presented tonight is far superior to other plans that have been presented. She would
like a stipulation that we have the open space and there will be no further development.
Commissioner Soto stated he feels it is a good plan and takes care of most of the drainage
concerns. Vice Chairmmn Carr stated his feelings that the architectural design could be handled
better other than having all of the fronts being flat with nothing off set except the garages.
Be also fjue"stioif& "the'''need' for - tra's`h rec acles ?o`r"` the _nothing d' uigUir if, there wRig. be
door to door trash collection. Mr. Eisner stated the assumption' was that - rather . their having
trash along the cul-de -sac, these would be gathered where they could be dealt with singly.
Vice Chairman Carr stated he feels strongly about the concerns of the architectural design and
would like to see something other than what has been submitted. Planning Director Eisner
commented if the Commission wishes to recommend approval of the zone change and tract map,
the matter could be forwarded on to the City Council with no recommendation on the
Architectural Review.
After further discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 85 -1047
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING 10 THE
CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE APPLICATION
NO. 85 -193, FILED BY RONALD R. OLSON, AGENT FOR
ELVIN A. WICAL.
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On motion by Commissioner Flores, seconded by Commissioner Olsen, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Olsen, Soto, Boggess, Flores, and Vice Chairman
Carr
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Moore
ABSENT: Chairman Gerrish
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 20t1'day of August 1985.
• Tientative Tract Map No. 1325
Planning Director Eisner briefly reviewed the 11 recommended conditions listed in the
staff report dated August 11, 1985. In response to Commissioner- Olsen's concerns relative to
the open space, Mr. Eisner recommended modifying Condition No. 3 by adding "The Tract Map
acceptance shall be contingent upon the acceptance of the Open Space in perpetuity. That
offer shall be recorded prior to recordation of the final map."
After discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 85 -1048
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL
OF TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 1325, FILED BY RONALD
OLSON, AGENT FOR ELVIN A. WICAL.
On motion by Commissioner Olsen, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and by the following
roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Soto, Boggess, Flores, Moore, Olsen and
Vice Chairman Carr
NOES: None
ABSENT: Chairman Gerrish
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 20th day of August 1985.
Architectural Review Case Noe 85 -341. Vice Chairman Carr reiterated his concern,
which basically is the handling of the houses and the garages giving the appearance of a 4 car
garage. After a discussion, a motion was made by Commissioner Soto, seconded by Commissioner
Flores to approve Architectural Review Case No. 85 -341. Motion was defeated by a 3 to 3
vote. Mr. Eisner advised that the matter of Architectural Review would go to the City Council
without a recommendation from the Commission.
PUBLIC HEARING = AMENDMENT TO TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 1246, CROWN STREET
(STEPHEN COOL, AGENT FOR RUTH PAULDING).
Planning Director Eisner advised the request is for an amendment to Tentative Tract
Map No. 1246, which was previously approved by the Corn fission. At that time there were
conditions and assumptions that were a part of the Paulding History Horse as a museum.
Because of the circur stances related to the parking lot, they are asking for a modification of
the Tentative Tract Map to delay the required improvement of the museum parking lot. He
commented that the proposed revision has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Committee and is
recommended for approval subject to the conditions listed in the staff report dated August 20,
1985.
' Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for Amendment to
Tentative Tract Map No. 1246 had been duly published and property owners notified, Vice
Chairman Carr declared the hearing . open.
Stephen - Cool, Attorney and acting as Agent for Ruth Paulding, spoke in favor of the
proposed amendment. He stated that when the Commission approved the tentative tract map a
few months ago that a paved parking area was shown on the tentative map on the westerly side
of Lot 5, inasmuch as it was assumed at that time that the Qty Council would accept a deed to
Lot 5 for establishment of the Paulding History House. However, the Council elected to hold
off on any definite decision concerning Lot 5 until such time as Ms. Paulding passes away and is
no longer living on the property. In view of this, the applicants are requesting the amendment
so as to delete reference to the parking area being constructed as a condition to the
subdivision. He commented that the construction of this parking area has been a major obstacle
in trying to market Lots 1 through 4 because of • the substantial expense of construction. He
also stated they do have a problem with the idea of the turn- around as suggested by staff.
Mrs. Lane, 524 LePoint Street, inquired if there is going to be a parking lot on top of
the hill, and if they are going to 'put a wall or fence in there? Vice Chairman Carr advised
that single family dwellings will be constructed adjacent to her property.
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Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed amendment, Vice, Chairman
Carr declared the hearing closed. After a brief discussion, amendment to Tentative 'Tract Map
No. 1246 was approved on motion by Commissioner Olsen, seconded by C onmissioner Boggess, and
unanimously carried, modifying Condition No. 3 to read as follows: "The 10 ft. roadway labelled
'Emergency Access Drive' shall remain ".
LANDMARK TREES
Planning Director Eisner referred to landmark tree resolutions recommended by the
Parks and Recreation Director for adoption establishing landmark trees in the Paseo Street area.
He commented that Planning Commission action recommending adoption is. required.
After discussion, on motion by Commissioner Soto, seconded; by Corrmissioner :Mooreii and
unanimously carried, recommending adoption of the Resolutions establishing Landmark Trees 85-
1, 85 -2, 85 -3, 85 -4, 85 -6, 85 -7 and 85 -8 in the Paseo Street area.
UNDERGROUND UTILITY DLS'IitICT - TRAFFIC WAY
Planning Director Eisner referred to information given to the Comnission regarding the
Traffic Way Underground District. He noted that a public hearing is scheduled for the
Planning Com ission meeting of September 17th, which will give Commissioners time to review the
material.
ADJOURNMENT
Mere being no further business before the. Co0nission, the meeting was adjourned by
the Chairman at 11:10 P.M.
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Secretary
Vice Chairman
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