PC Minutes 1985-02-19ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
February' 19;1985
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with
Chairman Gerrish presiding. Present are Commissioners Fischer, Carr, Moore
and Olsen. Commissioners Boggess and Soto are absent. Planning Director
Eisner and Associate Planner Stonier are also in attendance.
(I`1Zâ– SENT AGENDA
Commissioner Olsen requested that Item No. 1.a be removed from the
Consent Agenda. Cormiissioner Olsen moved that the "Consent Agenda" be deleted
entirely from the Planning Commission Agenda. Motion seconded by Commissioner
Moore, and unanimously carried.
CCI tSSIC ER BOGGESS iNIERED THE ACTING DURING THE ABOVE DISCUSSICFi AND IS
NOW PREssE r
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NJ. 84 --323, REMODEL EXISTING BUILDING, 106 E. BR NG'
STREET IN THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. (BURFaI CAIDWELL /BOTTLE AND CORK) .
Planning Director Eisner advised the matter before the Cacmnission is
to remodel an existing building in 'The Village area.. The application has been
reviewed by-.the Staff Advisory Committee, the Architectural Review Committee
of the Planning Commission, and the Parking and Business Improvement Area
Advisory Board.
In answer to Commissioner Olsen's questions regarding the condition of
the brick facade on the building and if there is a basement, Planning Director
Eisner pointed -out that these are issues that are not related directly with
Architectural Review and would.Lbe taken up by the Building Department at the
time of the remodeling. He stated that the. Building Inspector is working
closely with the applicants to make sure the structure is sound, and any
remodeling will have to ceanply with the Uniform Building Code.
With regard to the proposed sign, Mr. Eisner advised the size has been
increased to 10' x 6' and is within the scope of the existing ordinance. He
noted that the Sign would be approved administratively since it is consistent
with the architecture and ordinance.
After a brief discussion, on motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded
by Commissioner Carr, and unanimously carried, Architectural Review Case No.
85 - 323 was approved.
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st ATICIN 10 CITY COUNCIL _REGAIDING REQUEST FOR ABANDONMENT OF HARDEN
SIREE i ATD C. WEAVER REPRESENTS SC LARI PROPERTIES) .
Planning Director Eisner referred to a letter from Gerald C. Weaver,
dated February 8, 1985, requesting abandonment of Harden Street as shown on
the map attached to the letter. He advised that the right of way has never
been used by the City, and the Public Works Department indicated they have no
problem with the requested abandonment.
Mr. Weaver advised the Commission that the street it is the top of the
hill behind J. & J.'s Market, and that it has never been accepted by the City.
Comissioner Boggess inquired if anyone has checked to see if this street
could be used as a street to divert traffic off of the main street. Planning
Director Eisner advised the City does not have a right -of -way connecting to
the street.
Planning Director Eisner advised that in recommending the abandonment,
the Planning Commission should find that the abandonment of this street is not
inconsistent with the General Plan. After a brief discussion, on motion by
Coirtnissioner Olsen, seconded by Counnissioner Moore, motion carried with
Chairman Gerrish abstaining, recommending the abandonment of Harden Street and
making a finding that this abandonment is not inconsistent with the General
Plan.
pUBIPC HEAR1I G - LOT SPLIT CASE W, 85 -407. 781 PRINIZ amp IN THE "R -S"
RESIDENTIAL SUBURBAN DISTRICT. (WILLIAM LACY) , -
Planning Director Eisner advised that this is an application for a
Minor Subdivision of 11 acres into 2 parcels. He further advised that the
subject parcel proposed for subdivision was one of four lots created in
October of 1981. After review by the Staff Advisory Committee, it was
recommended that this application be resubmitted as a tentative tract map as
required by the Subdivision Map Act.
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Upon being assured by the Planning Secretary that public hearing for
Lot Split Case No. 85 -407 had been duly published and property owners
notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. Hearing no comments for
or against the proposed lot split, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing
closed.
Planning Director Eisner requested that the matter be continued for
two weeks in order for the applicant to substitute a tentative tract map in
place of the parcel map. Chairman Gerrish reopened the Public Hearing and
continued the matter to the Planning Commission meeting of March 5, 1985.
PUBLIC HEARING - LOT SPLIT CASE N. 85 -408, "WALNUT VIEW ESTATES ", CHERRY
AVENUE, IN THE "RA -B3" RESIDENTIAL AGRIcu2utAL DISTRICT. (VICK PACE /COKER
ELLSw n .
Planning Director Eisner advised the request for division of property
of 16+ acres into 4 separate parcels. The property is at the corner of Cherry
Avenue and Branch Mill Road. The property is zoned "RA -B3" which has a 40,000
square ft. minimum lot size. He stated the requested lot split is consistent
with the General Plan and Zoning and meets all of the requirements of the
Subdivision Map Act and Subdivision Ordinance of the City of Arroyo Grande.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public
hearing for Lot Split Case No. 85 -408 had been duly published and property
owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open.
Coker Ellsworth, 345 So. Halcyon Road, owner and applicant, stated he
is just dividing the property into 4 parcels with the intention of selling
those parcels off.
Mr. Kurek, 603 Cherry Avenue, inquired about the drainage. Planning
Director Eisner reviewed the recommended conditions of approval pointing out
that the applicant is required to deal with the drainage problems created on
this parcel. Mrs. Stillwell, 734 Myrtle Street, stated they are concerned
about the drainage, and they were hoping they would be told how the drainage
would be taken care of, which is their main concern.
Planning Director Eisner pointed out that there are several drainage
issues that cannot come into play at this time. He stated the drainage will
be dealt with at the time of some ultimate development on the property. Al
this time we do not know what the final development is going to look like and,
therefore, we cannot require the final drainage improvements because so much
is subject to design. Another issue is natural drainage across that property
now; they have to take that water to the creek. A third level is one that
take place off of the property, which is Newsom Springs, and this is something
we will have to deal with under other matters. Minetta Bennett, 415 Allen
Street, expressed her concerns regarding traffic and' drainage.
Hearing no further comments for or against the proposed lot split,
Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director Eisner commented that this property has been general
planned as Low Density Residential since the General Plan was done in 1974 or
1975. He pointed out that at the time agricultural lands were designated as
Class 1 and Class 2 soils, this property was not included. When there was a
change in the zoning, it was changed from "A" to "RA -B3" and to the best of
his knowledge, it was done based on consistency with the General Plan.
Commissioner Moore advised he had attended the Lot Split Committee
Meeting, and one thing that has not been mentioned here is the road that goes
from Branch Mill Road to the City water tank. The width for the road would be
60 ft. on either side of the center line. He further stated it is understood
that this is a request for a four parcel lot split, however, if you put 40,000
square feet in each parcel, you could have 13 lots. With regard to drainage,
Commissioner Moore noted that the Commission cannot require it at this point,
but he would like the public and City Council to know that the drainage
problem is still there and it is not going to go away. Commissioner Carr
inquired if the Public Works Department could review the drainage plan and
resubmit it to the Commission prior to recordation of the final map. Planning
Director Eisner pointed out that a condition of approval is that a 'Drainage
plan shall be prepared and submitted for the approval of the Public Works
Director prior to recordation of any final map." Commissioner Fischer
Commented with regard to Condition No. 2 regarding curb, gutter and sidewalk,
stating she doesn't know of any lots splits that have been approved where
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curb, gutter and sidewalks have not been required. Chairman Gerrish commented
it is his feeling that curb, gutter and sidewalk have not been required in
less dense zones and, in this particular case, he agrees that this is a little
heavy for this parcel map. Planning Director Eisner stated the original
recommendation is for curb, gutter and sidewalk and, if the position that the
Commission is taking is that the property will be divided again, staff would
at least recommend that the Commission condition for dedication of full width
to plan line, and that curb and gutter be required on full length streets. He
commented that if this were to be the ultimate scale of the development, then
he would want to see sidewalks included at least on Cherry Avenue and portions
of Branch Mill Road for the purposes of completing the pattern in that
neighborhood.
After further discussion, on motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded
by Commissioner Carr, and carried on a four to two vote, Lot Split Case No.
85 -408 was approved amending Item No. 2 to read as follows:
"That necessary dedications for street widening on Cherry Avenue,
Branch Mill Road and Los Olivos Lane be made, and that all
necessary improvements including curb and gutter be in place
prior to recordation of final map....
Also, Condition No. 4 was added as follows:
"60 ft. reservation on either side of center line on
water tank road."
Commissioner Fischer advised the reason she deleted the sidewalk from
Condition No 2 is because she would like to see a planned sidewalk to go
along with a development plan.
Planning Director Eisner advised this matter is final with the
Planning Gan.uission unless appealed to the City Council within 10 days.
PUBLIC HEARING - SIGN CfDINANCE
Planning Director. Eisner stated that a draft of the proposed Sign
Ordinance was reviewed at the Planning Commission study session, and staff has
prepared a summary of the existing Ordinance and the proposal being
recommended. Associate Planner Stonier briefly reviewed a summary of the
proposed changes.
Upon being assured by the Planning Commission Secretary that public
hearing for the Sign Ordinance had been duly published and posted, Chairman
Gerrish declared the hearing open.
James O'Keefe, of King's Fish and Chips, spoke in opposition to the
proposed ordinance, stating that the signs are needed to attract people off
the highway.
Planning Director Eisner advised that modifying the ordinance brings
about no changes whatsoever to any existing signs. He stated that the overall
concern that this City has expressed in the two years he has been here is the
philosophy is that the image of the City will be enhanced by trees,
architecture, etc., and good signing is a part of that enhancement.
Hearing no further counents for or against the proposed ordinance,
Chairman Gerrish declared. the hearing closed.
Chairman Gerrish stated, in his opinion, there are scone significant
changes from the existing ordinance, and the biggest problem he sees is the
inequity for the new businesses coming in, i.e., 50 ft. signs as compared to a
15 ft. sign. 1 -le commented there is no input at all from the Chamber of
Ccannerce on the sign changes, and he feels that is important because it
affects all of the businesses in the community. The majority of the
Contnissioners expressed their concurrence with the proposed ordinance and,
after further discussion, the following action was taken:
RESDLUTICr1 ND. 85 -1031
A RESOLLrrICN OF THE PLAN1NIlNG 01 IISSICN OF
THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECC MENDING TO
THE CITY OJLNCIL APPROVAL OF TI- PROPOSED
SIGV ORDINANCE.
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On motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner Olsen, and
by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AWES: Commissioners Moore, Fischer, Carr, Olsen and Boggess
NOES: Chairman Gerrish
ABSENT: Commissioner Soto
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 19th day of February 1985.
Planning Director Eisner advised that this matter will be heard by the
City Council in approximately three weeks.
ADJOURNAElqr
There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was
adjourned by the Chairman at 9:15.P.M.
A1' ibST: ` _e_a
Secretary