PC Minutes 1984-09-18ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
September 18, 1984
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session
with Chairman Gerrish presiding. . Present are Commissioners Carr,
Fischer, Moore, Moots, Olsen and Soto. Planning Director Eisner is
also in attendance.
MINUTE APP„ OVAL
Upon hearing no additions or corrections, the minutes of the
regular meeting of September 4, 1984 were approved as prepared on
motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner Moore, and
unanimously carried.
ARCHITECTIIRAI. REVIEW NO. 84- 315,.6 UNI'i APARTMENT COMPLEX, 1162
ASH .TREET. _IN THE "R -G" DISTRICT. (GARY WHITE)
Planning Director Eisner briefly reviewed the staff report,
dated September 4, 1984, noting that the project meets the development
standards of the City, and falls both within the requirements of the
zoning and of the General Plan. He noted that the matter was set for
discussion by the Architectural Review Committee, however, there was
no quorum for that meeting, and the matter went to the Staff Advisory
Committee, where it was reviewed and recommended for approval.
Commissioner Fischer inquired if there will be fencing.
Planning Director Eisner advised that there is no fencing shown on the
site plan, however, it could be included as a part of the landscaping
approval. In answer to Commissioner Fischer's question regarding
the boundary line, Mr. White, applicant, advised there is a recorded
easement for a common shared driveway. He commented that the lot
adjoins the units just approved for Richard DeBlauw, and these units
will look the same as Mr. DeBlauw's development. Commissioner Soto
stated one of the things he has seen on that street is there are a lot of
children and there are no places for them to play. He inquired if
these were going to be family units. Chairman Gerrish stated that
most of the multi - family units reviewed by the Commission recently
have been condominiums and the Commission does require some type of
recreational facilities in condo projects. Commissioner Soto
questioned the size of the apartment units. Planning Director Eisner
stated the proposed units are typical size units. Commissioner
Fischer stated it seems to be the consensus of the Commission that the
apartment buildings that have been reviewed have not been quality
design projects and the Commission would like to see something more
creative. Commissioner Carr stated, in his opinion, the Commission
should go ahead and approve this project, however, put the people on
notice that in the future the Commission is going to be looking for
more amenities in these projects.
Planning Director Eisner commented that the issues of concern
here have nothing to do with densities and the requirements of open
space; those are spelled out in the Zoning Ordinance. He recommended
that perhaps staff should be directed to study the development
standards and guidelines for architectural approval.
After further discussion, Architectural Review Case No. 84-
315 was approved on motion by Commissioner Carr, seconded by
Commissioner Fischer, and unanimously carried, subject to the
following condition:
1. A detailed landscaping plan, to include fencing to
City Standards, shall be submitted for approval
of the Parks Director prior to issuance of a building
permit.
On motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by Commissioner
Olson and unanimously carried, staff was requested to review and
upgrade standards for apartments and also the architectural review
process. Planning Director Eisner suggested that a study session be
scheduled at the end of October. Chairman Gerrish commented there
have been several significant issues that staff has been asked to
examine in the past six months, and he requested staff submit a List of
those ite1us for purposes of `%3 ciuing priorities on those issues.
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' 1II3LIC HFA_R- N - iI F ,PERMIT CASE NO. 73, REVISED DEVELOPMENT BALL_
LIE DI ST CAAPGROLIN . 25Q. lifiaLLEX WAY fl TILE "P -D" PLANNED n •V • .OPM .NT
]?ISTRIC�� MNTTED �Hr^ DDIST. eHURCH)
Planning Director Eisner advised that the Methodist
Campground has been a part of this community for some time and is now
operating under a Use Permit as a part of the "P -D" zoning district.
He commented that the representatives have submitted a conceptual -
plan for review and approval. It is the intention of the camp
representatives to get approval at the conceptual level and then go
back and work out a phased development plan on the overall
development. He stated this is a workable procedure within our
development ordinance and use permit procedures which has been
followed in the past. Mr. Eisner stated that the Staff Advisory
Committee had a number of concerns that were put into the conditions of
approval.
Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public
hearing for Use Permit Case No. 84 -373 had been duly published and
property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open.
Burt All, Pasadena, representing the Methodist Church,
stated the improvements are necessary to upgrade the facility. He
further stated they are in agreement with the conditions presented by
staff. Mr. Edwin Nelson, 204 Larchmont, stated he is mainly
concerned about the increase of traffic. Mr. All stated they now have
114 beds and the proposed development would increase the beds to
approximately 135 to 140 beds, and he didn't feel there would be a
major change in the traffic flow.
There being no further comments for or against the proposed
Use Permit, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Fischer questioned the wording in condition No.
1 regarding the "easterly" portion of the property, stating this
should be changed to "southerly" portion. Planning Director Eisner
commented that the condition as worded was perhaps not as clear as it
might be; the agreed condition is that the trash, debris and dead brush
is to be removed, however, it wouldn't be stripping of the brush..
Commissioner Carr stated he objects to the City requiring the use of
ground sterilant on the property because, in his opinion, it is not a
good idea and the City should perhaps require them to keep the weeds
down and not specify the use of ground sterilant. Planning Director
Eisner advised the concern was that the open area represents a fire
break, however, if that condition is not acceptable, it could be
reworded to require that "the perimeter of the property shall be
maintained as a fire break ".
After further discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 84 -1013
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING A USE PERMIT,
CASE NO. 84 -373, APPLIED FOR BY PACIFIC AND
SOUTHWEST ANNUAL CONFERENCE OF THE UNITED
METHODIST CHURCH FORA REVISED DEVELOPMENT
PLAN
On motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner
Olsen, and by the . following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Carr, Fischer, Moore, Moots, Olsen,
Soto and Chairman Gerrish
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 18th day of September 1984.
ARCIII=TaBALt RAW CASL N01. 83 - 280 (REVISION) KI.LLG �� BTAURANT
1.15i SiR M). AYEIga ._ f' „ AND. Sj OKEEFE) .
Planning Director Eisner advised that the application is for
a revision to a previously approved architectural review. The
project is consistent with the previous construction and meets the
development standards of the "H -S" zone. He further advised that the
Staff Advisory Committee reviewed the revision and recommends
approval, subject to the issuance of a revised building permit.
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After a brief discussion, the revision of Architectural
Review Case No. 83 -280 was approved on motion by Commissioner Moots,
seconded by Commissioner. Carr, and unanimouslycarried,.su.bject to
issuance of a revised building permit.
/ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW C'k 84- 316., 2 UTO PA._ TS STORE, 951. BRAND
AVENUE (SERVICE AUTO PARTS) .
Planning Director Eisner advised that the applicants have
requested this item be continued to the next meeting of October 2,
1984.
AR ± TTFCTURAT REVIEW CASE NO. 84 -317, ADDITION AND Emmaum Qg
1S.INGLL E.P_MTh.Y RESIDENCE, 1139 Ali ST ,F.T IN "R -G" DISTRICT, (MARK
VA TFF7)�
Planning Director Eisner advised this is a minor project that
is a remodeling and addition to an existing residence. It is brought
to the Commission simply because it is in the "R -G" District. He
commented that the project has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory
Committee and was found to be acceptable. Mr. Vasquez advised that he
is asking for a second unit; and there will be one uncovered parking
space and three covered parking spaces.
There being no comments, on motion by Commissioner Fischer,
seconded by Commissioner Moots, and unanimously carried,
Architectural Review Case No. 84 -317 was approved subject to the
Standard Conditions of the City.
REQUEST FROM ARROYO GRANDE HALL ASSOCIATION IQ BUILD NEW BARBECUE
AREA, 707 HUASNA ROAD, IN THE "RA -B3" DISTRICT.
Planning Director Eisner referred to a letter, dated August
28, 1984 from the Arroyo Grande Hall Association requesting they be
allowed to make improvements to the subject property. He stated they
are proposing to build a new barbecue area, which would involve some
moving of dirt, and remove the old barbecue area and *an old fence. Mr.
Eisner noted that the Association Hall is a legal non - conforming use.
The request was reviewed by the Staff Advisory Committee and in their
discussion, the question was raised whether a new barbecue pit and the
kind of improvements they are requesting would be interpreted as
maintenance of an existing facility or expansion of anon-conforming
use.
Commissioner Fischer stated she has been contacted .by
numerous people living adjacent to the hall complaining about some of
the activities there. She .inquired if the improvements would
increase the use of the hall. She further commented that some of the
complaints she had heard related to the lack of restroom facilities.
Mr. George Cecchetti, 120 Cecchetti Road, representing the Hall
Association, stated he did not feel the improvements would increase
the use of the facility.
After a brief discussion, on motion by Commissioner Moore,
second by Commissioner Soto, motion carried with one "no" vote, it was
found that the requested improvements noted in Mr. Cecchetti's letter
of August 28, 1984, constitutes maintenance of an existing facility,
and not expansion of a non- conforming use.
RTOUEc FOR mIliE EXTENSION _ HARRIS LOT lk, ADJUSTMENT. (LOT SPLIT
QP_SE NO. 81-3631,
Planning Director Eisner referred to a letter,, dated
September 14, 1984 from San Luis Engineering, Inc., representing the
applicant, requesting a one year time extension for the subject parcel
map. He advised that the map was originally approved in 1981 and was
approved for two years. The map was extended for one year, and that
extension expires this month. They are entitled to one more
extension which would expire on September 25, 1985.
There being no discussion, the parcel map was granted a one
year extension on motion by Commissioner Moore, seconded by
Commissioner Fischer, and unanimously carried.
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Planning Director Eisner commented with regard to the
Commission's previous discussions relative to possible meetings with
the Grover Ci -ty Planning Commission. He advised, in discussing the
matter with Ton Sullivan of Grover City, he suggested that perhaps the
Arroyo Grande Commission pick two members to serve as a sub - committee
to meet with two members of the Grover City Commission to discuss the
parameters of both cities and come up with some recommendations. After
a brief discussion, Chairman Gerrish appointed Commissioners Carr and
Moots to serve on the subcommittee, with Commissioner Fischer serving
as alternate.
COMI TTE u A 'OINTMEtQTS
Commissioner Olsen advised she has had some physical problems
and would be unable to attend the next Architectural Review /Lot Split
Committee meeting, and she requested that the alternate member attend
this meeting. Chairman Gerrish stated he has moved his offices to
Arroyo Grande and it would now be convenient for him to serve on this
Committee. After a brief discussion, staff was directed to delete
Commissioner Olsen's name as representative to the Lot
Split /Architectural Review Committee, and place the names of
Commissioner Fischer and Chairman Gerrish as members, with
Commissioners Moots and Moore as alternate members.
bWOURNr Fit
There being no further business before the Commission, the
meeting was adjourned by the Chairman at 9 :00 P.M.
ATTEST:
Secretary
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