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PC Minutes 1984-08-21116 ARROYO GRATE PLANNING CON,NISSION August 21, 1984 The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission net in regular session with Chairman Gerrish presiding. Present are Commissioners Carr, Moore, Moots, Olsen and Soto. Commissioner Fischer is absent. Planning Director Eisner is also in attendance. FrTN U'E APPROVAL Upon hearing no corrections or additions, the minutes of the regular . meetings of July 3 and July 17, 1984 were approved as prepared on motion by Commissioner Carr, seconded by Commissioner Moots, and unanimously carried. REQUEST Q YE EXTFUSION - 1E2ENTEMIW, TRAM NO. 1009, IQUMATN CONCOMINIONS, BUMS MAD (GARING. TAE A ASSOC.. AGEr 'S .FEE ADR. CORP.) Planning Director Eisner referred to the letter, dated August 1, 1984, from Garing, Taylor and Associates, requesting the extension for filing the final map for Tract No. 1009. Planning Director Eisner advised that the tract is already built and the final map is ready to be recorded, however, because of a technicality, the deadline cannot be met, and staff recommends granting a one year extension. On motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by Commissioner Carr, and unanimously carried, the extension was granted on Tract 1009 for a period of one year. HE.ARTm - BEELEd DE LIM PERMIT LASE ID,. 84 -362,. MaMEE SERVICE. 1503 Ea CAMINO BELL l5 CITIES N 1BULr NJC E) . Planning Director Eisner advised that this matter is before the Commission for a six month review of the Use Permit granted to Five Cities Ambulance Service, located at 1503 El Camino Real. He noted that at the Staff Advisory meeting last week, all of the departments were polled to see if there were any complaints regarding the ambulance service, and it appears no complaints have been received. He noted that a letter from H. Ray Sheppard, dated July 5, 1984, was included in the Commissioner's packets. Mr. Sheppard stated he would be out of town and requested that the review be delayed until October 1, 1984. Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public hearing for review of Use Permit Case No. 84 -362 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. Hearing no corrinents for or against the use permit, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed. Chairman Gerrish stated in reading the letter from Mr. Sheppard, he did not indicate there were any real problems there, however, if he had some objections in the future, then the matter could come back to the Commission for further review. After a brief discussion, Use Permit Case No. 84 -362 was re- affirmed on motion by Commissioner Moore, seconded by Commissioner Moots, and unanimously carried. PUBLIC HEABI - jam, PERMIT CASE 84 -379. NaTEZEEQRSIGE6 14E TRAFFIC W1 IN SERVICE DISTRICT. (D LANGE). Planning Director Eisner advised the application is for a pedestal sign for a hair salon at 146 Traffic Way in the "H -S" zone. He stated that the applicant has indicated a desire to place the sign in the front yard of the property, approximately half way between the sidewalk and the building. He noted that a 100 ft. right of way is required for Traffic Way and, therefore, staff recommends the following condition in approval of the permit: 1. That the approved sign be located on the property outside the Traffic Way right of way so as not to inhibit visibility of traffic entering or leaving Traffic Way. Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public hearing for Use Permit Case No. 84 -379 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. There being no comments for or against the proposed Use Permit, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed and the following action was taken: Arroyo Grande Planning Commission, 8 -21 -84 RESOLUTION NO. 84 -1007 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING A USE PERMIT, CASE NO. 84-379, APPLIED FOR BY DONNA C. LANGE TO PERMIT A SIGN. AT 146 TRAFFIC WAY IN THE HIGHWAY SERVICE DISTRICT. On motion by Commissioner Moore, seconded by Commissioner Carr, and by the following roll call vote, to wit: AYES: Commissioners Carr, Moore, Moots, Olsen, Soto and Chairman Gerrish NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Fischer the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 21st day of August 1984. PUBLIC 1EARTNG - TMATIVE ,� TRACT NO. 1216. 13 BRIDGZ STREET. 12 MILT OFFICE frxgnowNTju ICI 313E mum BUSINESS DISTRICT, (ELLSWORTH /MORS DEV. �) Planning Director Eisner advised the request is for approval of a tentative map for development of a 12 unit office condominium. The Commission has approved a use permit for the project, and it has also received architectural approval. Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public hearing for Tract No. 1216 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. Jim McGillis, Surveyor with San Luis Engineering, agent for the applicant, commented with regard to Condition No. 2 of the staff report dated August 21, 1984, requiring dedication of the creek. Mr. McGillis advised that the applicant does not own from the center of the creek and, therefore, the requirement for dedication and clean -up of the creek cannot be met. Planning Director Eisner stated that fact was pointed out to staff after the staff report was printed and will be corrected. Mr. McGillis stated that the other condition he is concerned about is the requirement for separate water and sewer services to each unit. He noted that a business or professional office does not use a lot of water, and rather than having separate services, it could be done by a homeowners' association. The way the condition reads, the applicant would have to run 12 laterals out to Branch Street. Mr. McGillis requested relief from that condition. With reference to Condition No. 5, Mr. McGillis stated that this condition serves no purpose, in that recordation of the tract map has nothing to do with the condominiums, therefore, he also asks for relief from that condition. Coker Ellsworth, 135 So. Halcyon Road, applicant, spoke regarding the wording of Condition #3 requiring provision of separate water and sewer services to each unit. He stated that the sewer and water provisions can be covered in the Homeowners' Association, and he would like to have some flexibility on the water meters so that he is not required to have 12 meters if he only has 4 users. He stated he feels that this could be worked out to the satisfaction of the Public Works Director. Upon hearing no further continents for or against the proposed tract, chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed. Commissioner Olsen expressed concern about the water and sewer hook -up problem setting a precedent. Planning Director Eisner advised the conditions were written when the assumption was that we were looking at a tentative tract map as part of a condominium development. If, in fact, the applicant is . constructing this building for leasing, then it could be like any other , building in town. Commissioner Carr stated, in his opinion, the question of separate water and sewer services should be left up to the Public Works Director to work out. He commented he doesn't feel there is a need for separate sewers. Page 2 117 118 Arroyo Grande Planning Commission, 8 -21 -84 Page 3 After a brief discussion, the following action was taken: RESOLUTION NO. 84 -1008 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE APPROVINN TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 1216, AND REFERRAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. On motion by Conunissioner Carr, seconded by Commissioner Moots, and by the following roll call vote, to wit: AYES: Commissioners Carr, Moore, Moots, Olsen, Soto and Chairman Gerrish NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Fischer the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 21st day of August 1984. PUBLIC iF[�ARIM - REZONING cza EQ., 84 -177, ZONE E "RA B3" RESIDENTJAT1 AG RTCf1T:TTTRA L "R BILVILE FAMILY RESIDE Y IAL DISTRICT PROPERTY LIMBERLY OF Mail l Kp ADJAC T WILtWOOD TRACT. (RONALD $ 9LSON) . Chairman Gerrish left the meeting due to a. possible conflict of interest and is now absent. Vice Chairman Moots assumed the Chair. Planning Director Eisner reviewed the staff report, dated August 21, 1984. Upon being assured by the Planning Director that public hearing for Rezoning Case No. 84 -177 had been duly published and property owners notified, Vice Chairman Moots declared the hearing open. Mr. Lee Setser, 827 Plata Road, presented a petition to the Planning Commission containing 32 signatures objecting to the rezoning of the property because of significant adverse affects the rezoning would have on drainage, traffic and water. Mr. Setser stated he is concerned with that hill, and commented that the area cannot support the drainage problems they already have. James Boyle, 230 Oro Drive, stated he is concerned about the drainage, and also the - traffic. Ronald Olson, applicant, stated he lives next to the property and he would like to see the property developed properly. He advised that he can provide the access. He further advised that he is aware of the drainage problem, however, he feels the problem can be solved and that they may be able to improve the problem that already exists. He commented that the traffic consideration is something to be dealt with, but he doesn't feel that a development of this size . is going to add that much to the traffic burden. Terry Ortin, Westland Engineering. Company, representing the applicant, briefly described the proposed development. Steve Beard, resident of Plata Road, stated he is concerned about the . existing drainage and those problems should be resolved now. Nancy Gerrish, 823 Plata Road, stated she is concerned about the drainage and the additional traffic coming down Oro Drive and, in her opinion, a zoning change from RA - B3 to R - 1 does not fill or meet the needs of the Arroyo Grande residents and it may cause many problems. Mrs. Gerrish commented that, from all appearances, if this subdivision is approved, it would create one of the-largest lots in the City of Arroyo Grande. Jim. Henderschott, 333 Miller Way, stated his concerns regarding the increased density and increased traffic problems. There being no further comments for or against the proposed zone change, Vice Chairman Moots declared the•hearing closed. Planning Director Eisner advised that the issue before the Commission is strictly a question of • zoning, noting that the requested zoning is consistent with the General Plan; the issues of lot size, etc. would be a consideration at the development plan stage. Ccx;a Carr stated he feels the property owners at least deserve development to the same level as the adjacent Wildwocd Tract and, in his opinion, they shouldn't be restricted to 40,000 square foot lots. He further cmmerted that in listening to the discussion about the proposed design, it Arroyo Grande Planning Commission, 8 -21 -84 Page 4 1 1 9 could possibly improve the drainage. Commissioner Olsen stated she would feel uncomfortable about changing the zoning until the traffic and drainage problems are solved. Vice Chairman Moots stated he agrees with Commissioner Carr, and he also feels that the drainage problem could be improved with the proper controls. He further stated that, in his opinion, P-D zoning would be the logical zoning for the property. Commissioner Moore stated that the Planning Commission has already gone on record asking the City to do some coordination of various concerns such as drainage, sewer, water and traffic. He commented that our current plans are ten years old or more and are inadequate. Now the room is disappearing, the water is getting short, the schools are getting overcrowded and the traffic is congested. He recommended that the Commission send another request to the City Council for a coordinated study. Planning Director Eisner advised that a coordinated study is part of our work program for the coming year. Vice Chairman Moots pointed out that the Council is well aware of the concerns that the Commission has. After further discussion, the following action was taken: RESOLUTION N0. 84 -1009 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE REQUEST NO. 84 -177, FILED BY RONALD R, OLSON. On motion by Commissioner Carr, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and by the following roll call vote, to wit: AYES: Commissioners Carr, Soto and Vice Chairman Moots NOES: Commissioners Moore and Olsen ABSENT: Commissioner Fischer and Chairman Gerrish the foregoing resolution was defeated this 21st day of August 1984. CHAIRMAN GERRISH IS NOW PRESENT AND HAS ASSUMED THE CHAIR. EMIL HER - RE:ZONING Lam EQ, 84 -178, Mal= la MUD ORDINANCE NO. 1.10_ C. S, (OAK P ACRES) , 2 alai BumsacssaL OFFICE SatMQEivao,a PIS. TRACT 604. IFOLUTA LIM COMPANY). Planning Director Eisner advised that the applicants are requesting an amendment to Ordinance 140 C.S. to modify the underlying Professional Commercial ( "P-C ") zone on Parcel 3 of Tract 604 to allow construction of professional office condominiums on a 1.85 acre site. Mr. Eisner pointed out that Section 9- 4.1102(b) of the City's Zoning Ordinance (Professional Commercial District) permits "Professional offices, not including real estate offices." He noted that the confusion at the staff level is that the list of uses is modified by the words "uses only ", and after going through the list, it concludes with "and similar uses ". He requested that the Commission consider that the words "such as" and "similar uses" be found to include "professional offices" or, as an alternative, the Commission find that the Ordinance, Sub - Section C, should be modified so that the language stays the same as in the City's Zoning Ordinance. He noted that, in either case, the matter will go to the City Council for final action. He also noted that the only issue before the Commission is the modification of the language. Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public hearing for Amendment to Ordinance 140 C.S. had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. Tony Orefice, RMO Architects, representing the applicant, advised that the issue, basically, is to construct professional offices on the proposed site under the P-C zoning. He pointed out that professional offices are allowed in the Zoning Ordinance under the P-C zone. Rueben Kvidt, Oak Park Acres, advised that this piece of land has been sold to Bonita Homes, and the proposed use would be agreeable to Oak Park. Acres and would be an appropriate use. Upon hearing no further comments for or against the proposed ordinance amendment, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed. C hairrna.n Gerrish corrarented his preference would be to change the wording to correspond to the terminology in the Zoning Ordinance under the "P-C" Zone. After a brief discussion, the following action was taken: 120 Arroyo Grande Planning Comission, 8 -21 -84 RESOLUTION NO. 84 -1010 A RESOLUTION OF THE PUNNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF AN AMENDMENT TO ORDINANCE NO. 140 C.S. ALLOWING USES PERMITTED IN THE PROFESSIONAL COMMERCIAL (P-C) ZONE ON PARCEL 3, TRACT 604, OAK PARK ACRES. On motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by Commissioner Soto, and by the following roll call vote, to wit: AYES: Ccnunissioners Carr, Moore, Moots, Olsen, Soto and Chairman Gerrish NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioner Fischer the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 21st day of August 1984.. Page 5 PUBLIC Mann - lar SPLIT S L. 84 -395, ICOM 1 2 Q Ham kp 77 -103, HAMM GRANDE. (OTTSE INC.). Planning Director Eisner advised that this lot line adjustment is necessary due to an engineering error in an adjacent project. The net change in the land use will be less than one acre, and there will be no other effects on the overall project by the change. He further advised that the requested lot split has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Committee and is recommended for approval. Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public hearing for Lot Split Case No. 84 -395 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. Upon hearing no comments for or against the proposed lot split, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed. After a brief discussion, Lot Split Case No. 84 -395 was approved on motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by Commissioner Olsen, and unanimously carried. Planning Director Eisner advised that this matter would be forwarded to the City Council to be included with the amendment process to Exhibit "A" of Ordinance No. 186 C.S. PUBIS ELSBIE. = REZONING CASE 84 -179, PROPOSED bEENDKEZE J11 ORDINANCE 221 C.S., . ' 2 MODIFY MICEEMLL E& $ PLAN,. QB$ ALL =M EM (FORMERLY "E1 OLI.WOOD ") . .LOS ALL VENTURES) Planning Director Eisner advised that. the request is for modification of the development plan for Oak Knoll. The proposal has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Committee and, in their review, various amendments are recommended to Ordinance No. 221 C.S. These amendments cover all of the development concerns that the City has at the present time. He noted there are two issues that should be considered by the Commission: (1) The overall density, 233 units, is consistent with the Ordinance now in effect; and (2) the road system has been reviewed previously by the Commission, and the Commission is on record as feeling that this road system is substantially better than the one presently approved with Ordinance 221 C.S. Mr. Eisner further advised that the major issues to be considered by the Commission include the protection of the Oak Trees, the overall road design, and the phasing program for on -site improvements, and it is staff's opinion that these matters have been covered in the proposed amendment to Ordinance 221 C.S. Mr. Eisner commented that the matter before the Commission is an amendment to Ordinance 221 C.S., specifically, Section 2; a revised development plan, and a tentative parcel map which includes division into larger parcels and the adoption of the street system. He noted that the environmental document that was prepared under the CEQA guidelines is still in effect. The basic nature of the EIR at the time it was prepared was for a project of substantially greater density. He pointed out that, in his capacity as the City's Environmental Coordinator, the project falls within the scope of the certified public document and, therefore, the conditions and requirements of that EIR are still in effect. Arroyo Grande Planning Commission, 8 -21 -84 Page 6 Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public hearing for Rezoning Case No. 84 -179 had been properly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open. Mr. Eddie Ramseyer, Civil Engineer and Planner, representing the applicant, stated they have reviewed the proposed conditions as written by both the Planning and Public Works Departments, and they are in agreement with those conditions and accept them as written. He requested the Commission's approval of the proposal. Jim Garing, engineer for Rancho Grande, inquired if, as part of this proposal, the rights of way are to be. offered for dedication. Also, is there an offer of dedication for utilities on Street "A "? He stated, as a part of the Rancho Grande development, they are currently designing a lift station to handle the wastewater, and if a gravity easement can be obtained as part of this project, it would be of benefit to the City in the future. Al Spierling, 299 Miller Way, stated that the present proposal, in many respects, is the same as the other proposals that have previously been before the Commission, and he is concerned about the preservation of the Oak Tree Grove on the northwesterly side of the hill. Spence Thomas, 141 James Way, Jim Henderschott, 333 Miller Way, and John McGrath, Miller Way, spoke regarding their concerns on the circulation and increased traffic problems. Mr. Ramseyer stated, with regard to Mr. Garing's comments, they have no problems in offering the easements. He commented with regard to the other concerns expressed regarding circulation and traffic, noting that the plan before the Commission tonight is a better circulation plan than the one previously submitted. With regard to the Oak Trees, he advised he tried to highlight the trees over the entire area and, if it is the City's desires, the applicant would be glad to offer that area to the City. Planning Director Eisner pointed out, as a matter of clarification, that there is an approved project of 233 units and a tentative tract map that is in Pffect. at. this time and, in a sense, this is not a new project. If the three actions before the Commission are not favorable, there is still an approved project on the books that could be developed. Hearing no further comments for or against Rezoning Case No. 84 -179, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed. Commissioner Moore commented that this most recent plan is better than the other one, but there is still room for improvement, and the Commission has to look at the systems of drainage, . roads and traffic. Commissioner Soto commented he agrees with Commissioner Moore, and we have some real traffic problems. Commissioner Carr stated, in his opinion, the preservation of the Oak Trees is primary, and before any action is taken, the Oak Trees should be considered and not allowed to be on separate lots. He also commented that because of necessary fire protection, barricades could not be placed on Miller way. Commissioner Moots stated he is not satisfied that this present plan is the best way to go; there was a lot of open space in the original plan. Chairman Gerrish stated, in his opinion, there is a substantial change in the concept that was previously approved. After further discussion, the following action was taken: RESOLUTION NO. 84 -1011 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING DENIAL OF THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND MODIFI- CATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 221 C.S. On motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by Commissioner Olsen, and by the following roll call vote, to wit: AYES: Commissioners Moore, Moots, Olsen and Soto NOES: Chairman Gerrish ABSTAIN: Commissioner Carr ABSENT: Commissioner Fischer the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 21st day of August 1984. 121 122 Arroyo Grande Planning Commission, 8 -21 -84 Page 7 Chairman Gerrish stated his reason for voting "no" on the foregoing resolution was because he did not feel that denial was the proper way to go. After further discussion, on motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by Commissioner Olsen, and carried, Lot Split Case No. 84 -397 was denied based on the recommendation for denial of the modification of the development plan. Planning Director Eisner noted that the request for amendment to the development plan and Ordinance 221 C.S. would automatically appear on the City Council's agenda September 11, 1984. He also noted that the action on the tentative parcel map was finaled with the Planning Commission unless appealed to the City Council within 10 days. P 3OURNME T There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned by the Chairman at 11 :00 P.M. ATTEST: Tel .7:4 .‘ r;e, Secretary o