PC Minutes 1984-01-03ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
January 3, 1984
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman
Gerrish presiding. Present are Commissioners Benhardt, Carr, Moore, Moots and
Olsen. Commissioner Fischer is absent. Planning Director Eisner is also in
attendance.
MTNTITF APPROVJ
The minutes of the regular meeting of December 6, 1983wete approved as
prepared on motion by Commissioner Benhardt, seconded by Commissioner Carr, and
unanimously carried.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 83 -297 (RESUBMITTAL) - PARKING LOT EXPANSION, 345
SO. HALCYON ROAD, IN THE "P -C" DISTRICT. (ARROYO GRANDE COMMUNITY HOSPITAL).
Planning Director Eisner noted that this matter was reviewed by the
Planning Commission on November 15, 1983 and, at that time, was denied without
prejudice because of- design concerns. He advised that the resubmittal before
the Commission tonight addresses those concerns and meets the criteria of the
parking ordinance. Mr. Eisner briefly reviewed the changes as submitted in the
revised plans.
COMMISSIONER FISCHER ENTERED THE MEETING DURING THE ABOVE DISCUSSION
Chairman Gerrish commented that the staff's concerns regarding circulation
have been met, but the Commission's concern was the parking lot location in the
front and this has not been changed in the resubmittal. Planning Director Eisner
commented that it appears the hospital, sooner or later, is going to have to
examine their needs for a new site and a new facility, however, what we have
here is an existing facility with a parking problem, and they are proposing an
interim solution, and it was on that basis that staff recommended approval.
Commissioner Carr stated, in his opinion, the Commission has a committment
to the hospital and the entire community and should try to keep some ._:;semblance
of aesthetic values that we have in the community. He further stated it is
his feeling that we have not looked at all of the options and he would like to
see something other than eliminating that landscaped area in front of the hospital.
Commissioner-Moots stated he would like to see a complete parking layout of the
hospital and determine what kind of utility is being made of the parking lot that
now exists.
Mr. Rick Seidler, Arroyo Grande Community Hospital, advised what they are
trying to do is meet the needs of the patients and answer the complaints about
the parking problem.
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Planning Director Eisner reviewed a colored rendering of the proposed
parking lot, stating that the Commission's approval of the proposal could be
conditioned on approval of landscaping materials by the Parks and Recreation
Director. Commissioner Fischer commented she would not like to see the land-
scaped area in front turned into a parking lot.
After discussion, on motion by Commissioner Olsen, seconded by Commissioner
Moots, and unanimously carried, Architectural Review Case No. 83 -297 was continued pend-
ing receipt of an overall parking lot plan for the. hospital. Mr. Seidler requested
that the rear parking lot for 23 spaces be approved and the front parking lot be
considered separately. Commissioner Olsen amended her motion to approve the rear
parking lot for. 23 spaces and continue the matter of the front parking lot pending
receipt of an overall parking layout. Amendment to motion seconded by Commissioner
Moots and unanimously carried.
Planning Director advised the Commission that this matter would appear on
the agenda for their meeting of January 17, 1984.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 83 -298, WOOD - VOAKES MORTUARY, FAIR OAKS AVENUE IN
THE "P -C" PROFESSIONAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
Planning Director Eisner advised that a Use Permit has been granted for this
use subject to architectural approval. The application has been reviewed by the
Staff Advisory Committee and the Architectural Review Committee. Approval is
recommended by both committees subject to the conditions that were included in
the staff report dated December 27, 1983. Mr. Eisner noted that, in his discussions
with the applicants, there was an issue made about the conflict between the mortuary
activities and the activities of the parochial school nearby, and the applicants
indicated they would have no problem with the activities of the mortuary being
limited to specific hours. Commissioner Olsen asked if the Committee didn't
stipulate that the applicants make arrangements with the Catholic Church for use
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of their parking lot for overflow parking. Mr. Eisner advised that the applicants
have indicated they have already made those arrangements.
Tony Orefice, Architect for the project, reviewed the colors and types of
materials to be used for the structure, stating they will be similar to what is
on St. Patrick's Hall. Commissioner Moore asked about the landfill that is going
in on the property. Mr. Orefice advised that there was a grading permit issued by
the Engineering Department, and there is probably 1 -1/2 ft. of fill overall.
Commissioner Moore commented that this could be a problem in some places; it is in
a place that is pretty flat, and the neighbors' land is flat also. Mr. Eisner
advised that this matter was heard as a Use Permit and the issue of grading on
the property was dealt with at that time, and the applicants have obtained a
grading permit from the Public Works Department.
Commissioner Carr suggested that the suggested mortuary activity times be
included in the requirements as Condition No. 8. After discussion, on motion
by Commissioner Benhardt, seconded by Commissioner Olsen, Architectural Review
Case No. 83 -298 was approved subject to the 7 conditions included in the staff
report, dated December 27, 1983 and the addition of Condition No. 8 as follows:
8. Activities at the mortuary to take place after 10:00 A.M. and to be
concluded prior to 2:15 P.M. . to avoid conflict between funeral
oriented automobile traffic and children arriving and leaving
St. Patrick's School.
Motion carried with Commissioner Moore abstaining.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 83 -300, ADMINISTRATION FACILITY, BRANCH AND MASON
STREETS IN 'T_.. "C -B -D" CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. (PRODUCTION CREDIT ASSOC.).
- Planning Director Eisner advised that the Production Credit Association
had previously submitted a plan for a structure on a single lot at the corner
of Branch and Mason Streets in the Central Business District, however, since
that time they have been able to acquire the adjacent lot and were able to
resolve all of the questions that had been raised by both the Staff Advisory
Committee and the Architectural Review Committee, including the question of
providing adequate off - street parking. The matter was again reviewed by the
Architectural Review Committee and Staff Advisory Committee and is being
recommended to the Commission for approval.
Commissioner Carr commented that when this matter was originally before
the Commission, he was concerned about having the building placed back against
the creek and the parking lot along Branch Street and, in his opinion, having the
parking lot in the rear would not preclude landscaping and bank stabalization of
the creek. Commissioner Moore commented that he has been involved in the
beautification project behind City Hall; he knows what is involved and it is
very expensive. He pointed out that the way this projectis set up the applicant
has to put in the improvements. He further commented that this is just what
we wanted all the way through the Arroyo Grande city limits; planting and stream
bank stabalization
After a brief discussion, Architectural Review Case No. 83 -300 was approved
in accordance with the plans submitted, on motion by Commissioner Moore, seconded
by Commissioner Benhardt, motion carried with Commissioners Carr and Fischer
voting "no ".
PUBLIC HEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO. 83 -359, CHURCH OFFICE, STORAGE AND OCCASIONAL
EVENING MEETINGS, 1542 W. BRANCH STREET (OAK PARK PLAZA), IN THE "C -N" NEIGHBORHOOD
COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. (CENTRAL COAST CHRISTIAN REFORMED CHURCH).
Planning Director Eisner advised that this matter is before the Commission
because of the unusual circumstances of the Oak Park Plaza. He noted that the
underlying zoning is "C -N" Neighborhood Commercial, however, the overlay for
the entire Oak Park area is "P -D ", which requires Use Permit action by both the
Planning Commission and the City Council. He advised that the "C -N" Zone does
not specifically permit either as a permitted use or subject to Use Permit pro-
cedure, a church or church related activities, however, in the "H -S" Zone, which
is similar in nature in many respects, churches and church related activities are
permitted subject to obtaining a Use Permit. He further advised that this matter
has been reviewed by the Staff Advisory Committee and, in that review, the -
Committee could find no conflict with the requested use. He referred to a draft
resolution that was included with the agenda for the Commission's consideration.
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RESOLUTION NO. 84-966
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING A USE PERMIT, CASE NO. 83 -359
APPLIED FOR BY CENTRAL COAST CHRISTIAN REFORMED CHURCH
TO PERMIT A CHURCH OFFICE AND RELATED ACTIVITIES IN THE
"C -N" NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
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Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public hearing for
Use Permit Case No. 83 -359 had been duly published and property owners notified,
Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open.
Mr. Bob Zeilenga, 555 Le Point Street, spoke in favor of the Use Permit.
He advised the request is for use of an existing building for church office,
storage and occasional evening meetings. He noted they would not be having
Sunday services at this location. He further advised that they are actively
looking for land and are hoping to build a permanent facility as soon as possible.
Upon hearing no further comments for or against the proposed Use Permit,
Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed. After a brief discussion, the
following action was taken:
On motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner Benhardt,
and by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
Commissioners Benhardt, Carr, Fischer, Moore, Moots,
Olsen and Chairman Gerrish
None
ABSENT: None -
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 3rd day of January 1984.
PUBLIC HEARING .--TENTATIVE SUBDIVISION MAP, TRACT NO. 1168, A 20 UNIT CONDOMINIUM
SUBDIVISION, 163 AND 167 BRISCO ROAD, IN THE "R -3" MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
DISTRICT. (WM. IRVINE /K. GORDON).
Planning Director Eisner advised that this matter has been before the
Commission in terms of a Use Permit application and Architectural Review, both
of which have been approved. The third aspect is the submission of a tentative
map. He briefly reviewed the staff report dated December 27, 1983. He advised
that the tentative map has been reviewed by both the Staff Advisory Committee
and the Architectural Review Committee, and it is recommended that all previously
established conditions be added to the tentative map as a part of the adoption
resolution. Mr. Eisner noted that a letter had been received by the Lucia Mar
Unified School District indicating the proposed project's impact on the schools.
He stated that the City Council is in the process of dealing with an ordinance
relating to this concern. Mr. Eisner pointed out that the project was originally
submitted as a 22 unit and approved. After review of the tentative map and the
survey, it was discovered there was a discrepancy between the survey and the
tentative map. The applicants have resubmitted the project as a 20 Unit
condominium subdivision. The reduction by two units does not change the architecture
and staff deemed that it was a minor modification and, therefore, the matter was not
referred back to the Architectural Review Committee.
Upon being assured by Planning Director Eisner that public hearing for
Tract No. 1168 had been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman
Gerrish declared the hearing open.
Terry Orton, Westland Engineering, representing the applicant, spoke in favor
of the proposed subdivision. In answer to Chairman Gerrish's question if there
was any problem with the recommended conditions, Mr. Orton stated there were no
problems; there was a question regarding fire flow, however, they have talked with
Public Works Director Karp and the concern has been resolved.
Al Spierling, 299 Miller Way, spoke regarding Agenda Items 6 and 8, commenting
that these two proposals add a total of 37 units to the City, which means that
18 children will be added to the School District; this means one -half of a
classroom which the School District does not have for this area; the District does
not have space for additional children in the Arroyo Grande attendance area. This
Commission has indicated a number of conditions, and he suggested that one solution
to help provide for adequate schooling for the children is to indicate that the
terms of the proposed ordinance would apply to this development as soon as that
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ordinance has been adopted. In the absence of doing that, Mr.
that the Commission postpone action on this matter until after
has been adopted to assure that space will be provided for the
are going to live in these subdivisions.
Kirby Gordon, 260 Coral Court, Pismo Beach, stated that their application
process started before the School District came to the City for fees and, at this
point, they are not willing to accept fees on it; they have not budgeted for school .
fees on this project. He commented that in other projects they have had with the
City, they have always met or exceed what has been required and, in,this case, they
are not in a position to accept a retroactive fee when an ordinance is adopted.
There being no further comments for or against the proposed tract, Chairman
Gerrish declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director Eisner advised that Mr. Spierling's proposal to the
Commission has been considered by the City Council on other projects and has been
reviewed by the City -"Attorney. The City Attorney's opinion is that the Subdivision
Map Act speaks to the point at hand and says that unless there is an enabling
ordinance adopted requiring the establishment of those fees and the ordinance
has been in effect for 30 days at the time the tentative tract map is submitted
for review and deemed complete, then there is no basis for charging those fees.
He commented that as far as postponing the application until the ordinance is
adopted, the State law says that action must be taken within 50 days of the issuance
of Notice of Completeness or it will be deemed approved unless waived by the appli-
cant.
After further discussion, the following action was taken:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSTAIN:
ABSENT:
RESOLUTION NO. 84 -96:7
Spierling asked
the Ordinance
children that
A E.SOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO
GRANDE APPROVING TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 1168, AND REFERRAL TO THE
CITY COUNCIL FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY.
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On Motion by Commissioner Benhardt, seconded by Commissioner Carr, and by
the following roll call. vote, to wit:
Commissioners Benhardt, Carr and Chairman Gerrish
Commissioners Fischer, Moots and Olsen
Commissioner Moore
None
the foregoing Resolution was denied this 3rd day of January 1984.
Commissioner Fischer stated she voted "no" in this matter because of the school
conditions. Commissioner Moots advised he voted "no" because he didn't like
the five ft. rear yard, and Commissioner Olsen stated she voted "no" because
of the school situation and the five ft. rear yard.
CONTINUATION (PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED) - PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT DELETING
ARTICLES 36 AND 37 OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE, AND ADOPTION OF A NEW ARTICLE 36
ENTITLED "FLOOD DAMAGE PREVENTION DISTRICT OR "F - DISTRICT (FLOOD HAZARD)
Planning Director Eisner advised this is a continued action, and the
public hearing has been closed on this matter. The proposed ordinance was
discussed at the last meeting with Public Works Director Karp, and was
continued to allow Commissioners more time to review the ordinance.
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Commissioner Moore stated he disagrees with some of the classifications
on the map and is going to be specific: On Wilma Dixon's farm, the map shows
a portion of the flat land out of the flood zone and he knows for sure that it
gets more than a foot of water; and this happens very often. Right next door
is the Hilo Fuchiwaki farm which has the same problem. Also, the south side of
Cherry Street; he has pictures to prove that it has had over a foot of water on
it. The Arroyo Grande High School campus and around the buildings and playing
fields, and the yard area of the Orchard Street Campus; also John Taylor's land
definetely gets more than 1 ft. of water on it almost every year. He stated he
has been studying that map for a month now, and this has been his business for 35 years
and he still doesn't understand all of it. If there is a flooding problem, let's
face it. At the Arroyo Grande High School and Orchard School; what were he and
Joe Anderson doing out there putting sand bags around what is now the administrative
offices; and other places such as Greenwood. He commented he thinks so seriously
about this problem that he would like to recommend a study session between this
Commission and the City Council to study the problem. He noted that on Christmas
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Eve there were some people by the name of Robert and Barbara Weinold that got
8" of water in their house around their Christmas tree out on Highway 227,
our Planning Commission at some time approved the project,and he doesn't think
we want that to happen all of the time. He stated he believes we have a
responsibility to take a hard look at these maps; they are a good tool to work
with, but they are not accurate. He further commented that the instructions from
the Corps of Engineers was if we find something in the map that is not accurate,
make the changes and get it back to them. If we don't get the ordinance on the way,
then our flood insurance eventually would be no good at all.
Commissioner Moore moved that the Planning Commission request a joint
study session with the City Council to study the flood map. Motion seconded
by Commissioner Olsen, and unanimously carried. Chairman Gerrish directed
Planning Director Eisner to write a memo to the City Council requesting the
study session.
RESOLUTION OF INTENTION - AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE - "R -3" MULTIPLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
Planning Director Eisner stated that a discrepancy has been found in the
Ordinance between the "R -3" and "R -G" District relative to side yards when a
project is oriented so that the side :yard becomes the rear yard of the unit.
He requested that the Commission adopt a Resolution of Intention to prepare
an ordinance amendment to correct the discrepancy, and set the matter for
public hearing for the first meeting in February. There being no discussion,
the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 84 -968
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE INDICATING ITS INTENTION
TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF
AMENDING SECTION 9- 4.908(b) OF THE ZONING
ORDINANCE.
- On- - -by Commissioner Moots, seconded„by Commissioner Olsen, and by -
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Benhardt, Carr, Fischer, Moore, Moots,
Olsen and Chairman Gerrish
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 3rd day of January 1984.
RESOLUTION NO. 84-969
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE INDICATING ITS INTENTION
TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE PURPOSE OF
AMENDING SECTION 3 -1.418 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE.
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RESOLUTION OF INTENTION - AMENDMENT TO SECTION 3- 1.418, "SOLICITORS, PEDDLERS AND
ITINERANT VENDORS ".
Planning Director Eisner commented some difficulties that were experienced
during the Christmas season, particularly in the Central Business District and
Highway Service District, relative to Solicitors, peddlers and vendors. He
requested that the Commission adopt a Resolution of Intention to examine that
section of the ordinance and the accompanying zoning provisions to see if there
is something that might be done to tighten it up. After a brief discussion,
the following action was taken:
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On motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by Commissioner Benhardt, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
ATTEST:
AYES: Commissioners Benhardt, Carr, Fischer, Moore, Moots, Olsen
and Chairman Gerrish
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 3rd day of January 1984.
. ADJOURNMENT. •
Thereibeing no further business before the Commission, the meeting was
adjourned by the Chairman at 9:40 P.M.
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