PC Minutes 1981-04-07?u6
ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
April 7, 1981
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman
Gorsline presiding. Present are Commissioners Cole, Fischer, Gerrish, Moots,
Pilkington and Sebastian. Planning Director Castro is also in attendance.
MINUTE APPROVAL
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Gerrish, and
unanimously carried, the minutes of the regular meeting of March 17, 1981 were
approved as prepared.
REVIEW REQUIREMENTS AND APPLICATION OF SB 1960.
Planning Director Castro advised that the matter is being continued to the
April 21st meeting. He advised that he hasn't heard from Mr. Shipsey as yet re-
garding any concerns or recommendations he may have with regard to the application
of the Bill. After a brief discussion, on motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded
by Commissioner Gerrish, and unanimously carried, review of SB 1960 was continued
to the next regular meeting of April 21, 1981.
CONTINUATION - PUBLIC HEARING, USE PERMIT CASE NO. 81 -315, CONSTRUCTION OF
CONDOMINIUM PROJECT, 1133 MAPLE STREET. (WOOD).
Planning Director Castro reviewed the proposed project and the recommended
conditions of the Architectural Review Committee. He stated that, as noted in the
past, the project will be an air space condominium project, and the densities are
in conformance with the General Plan and Zoning Ordinance. He further noted that
the, parking requirements have been satisfied, and the recreational area has been
substantially improved from the previous plan.
Chairman Gorsline advised that the public hearing on Use Permit Case No.
81 -315 would now be continued. Upon hearing no comments for or against the pro-
posed Use Permit, Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Sebastian stated that the plan has changed somewhat since its
original concept, and his biggest concern are the comments with respect to the
concerns; of some of the citizens who are familiar with Mr. Wood's historical
patterns in building projects in this community. Commissioner Sebastian stated,
in his opinion, a project of this size does not need to be in any kind of phasing
situation. He further stated he is concerned that there are no recreational
facilities for the young people
Commissioner Gerrish commented with regard to the phasing, that there are
several existing parcels on the property now, and if Mr. Wood wanted to build
three separate projects, there is nothing the Commission could do to stop him.
He also pointed out that, as far as he is concerned, there is a master plan on
the property and even though he doesn't particularly care for the phasing and
the mixed use, he would have to go along with Mr. Castro's recommendation and
approve the phasing concept.
After further discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 81 -809 U
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT, CASE NO. 81 -315.
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Gerrish, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Pilkington and Chairman
Gorsline
NOES: Commissioners Fischer, Moots and Sebastian
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of April 1981.
Architectural Review Case No. 81 -239, 1133 Maple St. (Wood).
After a brief discussion regarding the project plans, on motion by
Commissioner Sebastian, seconded by Commissioner Moots, and carried on a 4 to 3
vore, Architectural Review Case No. 81 -239 was denied as a phased project and
because of the lack of a children's recreation area.
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CONTINUATION - PUBLIC HEARING, PREZONING CASE NO. 81 -151, SHANNON RANCH, "P -M"
PLANNED INDUSTRIAL AND "RA" RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL' DISTRICTS.
Planning Director Castro stated that Mr. Tony Decker had called him the
other day and indicated he was going to be out of town and wanted the matter to
be continued to the April 21st meeting. He stated he had further information to
present on the project and he also wanted to amend the plan. Mr. Castro advised,
in his opinion, the Commission had three options; to continue the matter, to re-
quest further environmental data; or deny or grant the application. In addition
to the aforementioned options, they could adhere to their past policy indicating
that they are opposed to any further annexation to the City. Mr. Castro noted
that staff has not received any indications from the Council on resources plan-
ning or addressing the annexation policy issue.
In answer to Commissioner Pilkington's question as to how much of the
II property is in agricultural preserve, Planning Director Castro advised it is
his understanding that the entire ranch is in preserve. He further stated that
he had discussed the matter with the County and it appears that if, at the time
land is proposed for preserve, the City does not protest the preserve, then they
lose their rights and the only people that could lift the preserve is the Board
of Supervisors.
Commissioner Sebastian stated that the first step would be for the Board
of Supervisors to lift the Agricultural Preserve before the Commission discusses
the matter. He further stated he has two concerns at this point; (1) the concern
regarding the Agricultural Preserve status of the property and, in his opinion,
City Attorney Shipsey should give the Commission a recommendation on this partic-
ular item as to what process they should follow; and (2) it is his feeling that a
project of this magnitude is going to have such an impact on the future planning
that he would recommend this item be continued until such time as the Commission
is, advised by Mr. Shipsey as to what process they should be in at this time, and
until such time as the City Council has made some decision about the future plan-
ning process.
After further discussion, on motion by Commissioner Sebastian, seconded
by Commissioner Fischer, and unanimously carried, the matter was continued pend-
ing receipt of a legal answer from the City Attorney, and until the Commission
receives some sort of direction from the City Council.
PUBLIC HEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO. 81 -316, CONSTRUCTION OF A CAR WASH FACILITY
IN THE "H -S" HIGHWAY SERVICE DISTRICT, 1198 GRAND AVE. (LACKEY).
Planning Director Castro noted that there were concerns raised with regard
to the noise factor, and also a letter was received from Mr. and Mrs. Paschall
regarding the proximity of this use to his project, which is the condominium
project the Commission approved for development behind the Jack -in -the Box
Restaurant. Mr. Castro noted that in looking at the Noise Element, the 1981
figures indicate a reading of 60 -65 decibels and, in discussing the matter with
Mr. Lackey, he advised that the specifications on the equipment indicate that
the noise would be in a 60 -65 decibels range. Mr. Castro further stated that
Mr. Lackey had advised him that the blower units will be installed underneath
the ground, and that should decrease the noise level considerably.
Mr. Castro noted that he had received a call from another party concerned
about the recycling of the water. He advised the person calling that the City
could police the recycling apparatus, but it is a matter of having the personnel
to do so. He further pointed out that proper recycling of the water would be in
the best interest of the applicant. Mr. Castro advised that other than the two
above concerns, all other conditions would remain the same as previously recom-
mended by the Architectural Review Committee.
Upon being assured by Planning Director Castro that public hearing for
Use Permit Case No. 81 -316 had been duly published, posted and property owners
notified, Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing open.
Bill Lackey, 877 Todd Lane, applicant for the Use Permit, briefly reviewed
the proposed plans. He advised that the vacuum unit will be recessed into the
ground, and if he runs the pipe underground in a concrete channel, it cuts the
noise down about 7 or 8 decibels. Also, on the doors, he advised if they are
cut down in size, the noise will be contained inside the building better, and
the slump stone walls will absorb the noise inside the building itself. With
regard to recycling the water, Mr. Lackey described the recycling apparatus,
advising that the only new water that will be used will be the rinse water, and
the rinse water is then used for wash water.
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There being no further comments for or against the proposed Use Permit,
Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing closed, and the following action was
taken:
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Pilkington,
and by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Fischer, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington,
Sebastian and Chairman Gorsline
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of April 1981.
PUBLIC HEARING - VARIANCE CASE NO. 81 -74, REQUESTING VARIANCE FROM 90 FT. DEPTH
REQUIREMENT IN AN "R -1" DISTRICT, 175 WALNUT STREET. (VAN BUSKIRK).
Planning Director Castro advised that in accordance with the Commission's
previous discussion, the Variance has been applied for, and staff recommends the
granting of the Variance as depicted in the parcel map submitted by the applicant.
Upon being assured by Planning Director Castro that Variance Case No.
81 -74 had been duly published, posted and property owners notified, Chairman
Gorsline declared the hearing open.
Mike Kington, 162 Walnut Street, stated he is concerned about the
granting of the Variance and the addition of another dwelling back in there is
going to increase the traffic, and he was also concerned about the additional
noise the traffic will create. He requested that the Variance be denied. Bill
Shear, 170 Walnut Street, and Bernice May, 154 Walnut Street, stated they were
concerned about the congestion and increase in traffic, and were opposed to the
Variance being granted.
There being no further comments for or against the proposed Variance,
Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director Castro advised it is his understanding that there
will be a document recorded stating that Mr. Van Buskirk does have the right to
use the 30 ft. easement adjacent to the property. He further stated that the
variation in depth is approximately 2.75 ft.; the Ordinance requirement is 90
ft.
Commissioner Cole stated that the services are already existing and
the approval will not require any additional services in the City, and one of
the things the Commission has been talking about is utilizing what we already
have in the City of Arroyo Grande. She commented also that this is not much
of a variance and she feels that the land should be utilized. Commissioner
Sebastian stated that one of the reasons the Variance procedure requires a
public hearing is to allow the public a chance to speak, and tonight he has
heard people speaking againstlthe Variance for various environmental reasons,
therefore, he feels it is his duty to deny the Variance based on the fact that
people are taking their due process by saying they do not want the ordinance
violated. After a brief discussion, the following action was taken:
On motion by Commissioner Sebastian, seconded by Commissioner Fischer,
and by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
RESOLUTION NO. 81 -810 U
RESOLUTION OF. THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT, CASE NO. 81 -316..
RESOLUTION NO. 81 -811 V
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE DENYING A VARIANCE, CASE NO. 81 -74.
Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington and
Chairman. Gorsline
None
the foregoing Resolution was defeated this 7th day of April 1981.
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After further discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 81 -812 V
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE APPROVING A VARIANCE, CASE NO. 81 -74.
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Gerrish, and
by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington and
Chairman Gorsline
NOES: Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of April 1981.
Lot Split Case No. 81 -349, 175 Walnut Street. (Van Buskirk).
Planning Director Castro reviewed the recommended conditions of approval.
He noted that 'Mr. Van Buskirk had indicated he had two letters giving him approval
for the easements, and that an, additional condition should be that those be re-
corded
prior to recordation of the final map.
After a brief discussion with regard to the Request for Negative Dec-
laration, the following action was taken:
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTIONS:
RESOLUTION NO. 81 -813 EIR
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE ACCEPTING NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
DECLARATION.
On motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Cole, and
by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Fischer, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington
and Chairman Gorsline
NOES: Commissioner Sebastian
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of April 1981.
After further discussion, Lot Split Case No. 81 -349 was approved subject
to the conditions listed in the staff report, and the requirement that the ease-
ment be recorded prior to recordation of the final map, on motion by Commissioner
Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Pilkington, and carried with two "no" votes.
Lot Split Case No.. 80 -341, 1038 Fair Oaks Ave.. - Resubmittal. (Baur).
Planning Director Castro advised that the Commission had previously
reviewed the subject split and, since that time, they have adopted a policy of
a 25 ft. roadway being capable of serving 4 lots. He .further advised that the
plan has been reviewed by the Minor Subdivision Review Committee, and approval
is recommended subject to the four conditions noted in the staff report.
Commissioner Sebastian stated that it appears the residence is within
8 ft. of the garage, and the garage is now being served off of the street and,
therefore, approximately 8 ft. would be coming off of that easement and that
becomes the front yard unless it is changed. Planning Director Castro pointed
out that one of the concerns the Commission had when the matter was discussed
a few meetings ago was that none of the maps that were coming in were adequate
for review. He pointed out also that when lot lines are created, the setback
line requirements have to be met. Commissioner Sebastian also noted that it
appears the 110 ft. line is going to have to be deeper because he has 18 ft.
now and a 15 ft. garage, and the line will probably have to be moved further
back to accomplish what the applicant wants to accomplish.
Commissioner Gerrish suggested that the Commission either approve or
disapprove the basic concept with the requirement that an engineered map be re-
submitted and referred to the Planning Commission for final approval. After discussion,
on motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Cole, and carried with one
"no" vote, Lot Split Case 81 -341 was approved subject to the conditions noted in the
staff report, and the requirement that an engineered map be referred to the Planning
Commission for final approval.
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RESOLUTION NO. 81 -814 EIR
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE ACCEPTING NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
DECLARATION.
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Gerrish, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Fischer, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington,
Sebastian and Chairman Gorsline
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of April 1981.
Lot Split Case No. 81 -351, Cherry Avenue - Lot Line Adjustment. (Pryor).
Planning Director Castro briefly reviewed the proposed lot line adjust-
ment. He noted that there is no problem with the actual lot size, and the set-
backs will conform. He advised that staff is recommending approval of the
proposal and there are no conditions being recommended on this lot line adjustment.
After a brief discussion, on motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by
Commissioner Gerrish, and unanimously carried, Lot Split Case No. 81 -351 was
approved.. as recommended. .
Lot Split Case No. 81 -352, 271 Tally Ho Road. (Ped).
Planning Director Castro reviewed the proposed split and the four con-
ditions of approval recommended by the Subdivision Review Committee. He advised
that the easement is already existing and, other than the four conditions, staff
had no other concerns regarding the proposed split.
After discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 81 -815 EIR
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE ACCEPTING NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
DECLARATION.
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On motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner Cole, and
by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Fischer, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington,
Sebastian and Chairman Gorsline
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of April 1981.
There being no further discussion, on motion by Commissioner Fischer,
seconded by Commissioner Pilkington, and unanimously carried, Lot Split Case
No. 81 -352 was approved subject to the four conditions noted in the staff
report.
Lot Split Case No. 81 - 355, Printz Road - Lot Line Adjustment.. (White)
Planning Director Castro reviewed the proposed lot line adjustment,
pointing out that Mr. White would like to erase a lot line and create the lot
as shown because of view and the solar equipment he wants to add to the resi-
dence. He further advised that, in talking to City Attorney Shipsey, he is
opposed to the proposal because it does not conform to the "R -S" District.
He. stated the only other alternative would be to ask the applicant to submit
the. plan under the Optional Design Standards. This would allow Mr. White,
subject to the approval of the Planning Commission, a lot area less than re-
quired by the District, provided that the density does not exceed the require-
ments: of that zoning category.
Mr. White, applicant for the lot line adjustment, advised the Commission
that they are trying to have the site where it would be most beneficial and most
aesthetic. Commissioner Fischer commented that, in her opinion, this proposed
adjustment does not change the intent that the Commission had when they granted
the original lot split.
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Mr. Castro stated that under the Optional Design Standards, the
Commission can vary the lot sizes, but not increase the density. He further
stated he wanted to get direction from the Commission first and then talk to
Mr. Shipsey.
After discussion, Chairman Gorsline advised that the matter would be
continued pending further discussion between Mr. Castro and Mr.
COMMUNICATIONS.
Mr. Castro advised that Mr. Saruwatari has requested that the approval
granted on Parcel Map No. AG 80 -38, lot line adjustment, be extended for a period
of one year. On motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Moots,
and unanimously carried, granting a one year extension on Parcel Map No. AG 80 -38.
Planning Director Castro referred
addressed to the Planning Commission from
extension on Tract No. 854, a condominium
motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by
carried, granting a one year extension on
to a letter, dated April 1, 1981,
Mr. Paul Sturges requesting a one year
office project on Juniper Street. On
Commissioner Fischer, and unanimously
Tract No. 854.
Mr. Castro referred to a letter from Mike and Gayle McClain, dated March
20:, 1981, requesting a Home Occupation Permit to groom dogs on a part time basis.
He noted that the letter indicates the. applicants will pick up and deliver the
dogs so there will not be any additional traffic to and from the residence at.
310. Allen Street. On motion by Commissioner Fischer, seconded by Commissioner
Pilkington, and unanimously carried, Mr. Castro was authorized to grant adminis-
trative approval for a Home Occupation Permit as requested.
With regard to the Payless Drug Store to be constructed in the shopping
center at Courtland and Grand Avenue, Mr. Castro advised that one of the con-
ditions of approval was that there be nomechanical equipment on the roof. When
the plans came in for approval, it was noted by the building inspector that they
are proposing a. screening device, which basically are panels that will be in-
stalled around the unit so that when you look at it from the street side, you
are going to see a finished side; however, from the apartment units, you would
be able to see the units on top of the roof.
Commissioner Sebastian suggested that the matter be brought back at the
next meeting and have it superimposed on an elevation to find out what it is going
to look like.
Planning Director Castro referred to a drawing of a sign proposed for the
Shoe Box on Branch Street. He stated he advised Santa Maria Neon that he is
concerned with truck parking of any height and with a sign projecting into the
public right of way, and he would prefer a flat sign. After discussion, the
request for the described sign was denied.
Mr. Castro read a letter from Mr. Rex Daniel, dated April 4, 1981 re-
questing. permission to erect a prefabricated tool and storage shed to be placed
5 ft. from the rear property line. After discussion, the Commission granted approval
o : =p1 e a= tbol=.arid= storage- sheds- 5 :.ft. from the rear property line at 305 Whiteley St.
as per plot plan submitted.
ADJOURNMENT.
There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was
adjourned by the Chairman at 10.:00 P.M.
ATTEST:
Secretary Chairman
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