PC Minutes 1980-08-051
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ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION
August 5, 1980
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman
Gorsline presiding Present are Commissioners Cole, Gerrish,Moots and Pilkington.
Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian are absent. Planning Director Castro is also
in attendance.
ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA
Planning Director Castro advised that Item #11, Lot Split'Case No. 80 -332, 229
Miller Way, is being requested for continuance.
Mr. Castro further advised that he would like to present the final development
plans for the new Arroyo Grande Fire Station for the Commission's information under
"Communications ".
ELECTION OF OFFICERS FOR 1980 -81
Chairman Gorsline advised that Election of Officers for the Planning Commission
would be continued until all of the Commissioners are present.
REQUEST FOR ONE YEAR EXTENSION -LOT 5, TRACT 604, OAK PARK ACRES. (KVIDT)
Planning Director Castro referred to a map of the Oak Park Acres development,
noting that Mr. Kvidt is requesting a 12 month extension for the lot split to enable
him time to put the package together. Mr. Castro stated that staff doesn't see any
problem with granting the extension, and noted that the development plan hasn't
changed.
After a brief discussion, on motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Com-
missioner Cole, and unanimously.carried, granting a 12 month extension on Lot 5,
Tract No. 604, Oak Park Acres.
PUBLIC HEARING - CONTINUATION -USE PERMIT CASE NO. 80 -300, 28 UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT
IN THE "R -G" GARDEN APARTMENT DISTRICT, 1133 MAPLE STREET. (WOOD)
Planning Director Castro advised that the applicant's architect was not present
at the Architectural Review Committee meeting when the plans were reviewed and the
Committee found that there is a problem in interpreting how the phasing of the de-
velopment will actually take place. The Committee would like to see each phase de-
fined separately depicting what the remaining uses of the property will be. He stated
the Committee was concerned because unless we get a phase by phase plan of what will
remain and what will be deleted as the project goes on, it is hard to determine
whether we are dealing with commercial and office traffic. Mr. Castro further stated
he would recommend that the driveway be increased to at least a 20 ft. minimum to
allow for adequate space for emergency vehicles; this could be achieved by slightly
reducing the rear yards or the landscaping. Also, in his opinion, there should be
at least two trash receptacle areas. Mr. Castro pointed out that the plans do not
provide for recreational facilities and he, personally could not recommend the pro-
ject without it. He further noted that there is no pedestrian access being provided
to the recreation area unless you go through the parking area to the trash receptacle
area and, in his opinion, there should be a clear definition of pedestrian walkway
between the recreation facilities and the units themselves. He further stated that
the drainage is in a very low spot and staff was concerned as to how that is going to
be worked out and would like to see some sort of a drainage plan for the property. Mr.
Castro stated that the setbacks are satisfactory; the density is in accordance with
the General Plan, and the applicant is providing guest parking in accordance with the
City's policy.
In view of the above noted concerns, Planning Director Castro requested that the
matter be continued and referred back to the Commission at their next meeting.
Mr. Jenee, 180 Walnut Street, commented with regard to the commercial use on
the property and the density concentration in the area. He requested that the Com-
mission look at these problems very, very, carefully, noting in his opinion this is
going to create a problem on Elm Street, and also the fact that the elderly complex
is proposed for that area.
Chairman Gorsline stated he too was concerned about the mixed use, and that the
architect has heard the staff concerns regarding the proposal which would enable him
to correct those concerns and have the revised plans ready for the next meeting of
August 19th.
PUBLIC HEARING- PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, SEC. 9- 3.503, SUBSECTION
(b), TO PERMIT THE USE OF OPTIONAL DESIGN STANDARDS FOR CONDOMINIUM PROJECTS.
Planning Director Castro advised that the amendment to the Subdivision Ordinance
would in essence, reduce the allowable square footage per unit for a condominium by
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permitting the use of the Optional Design Standards. As previously pointed out to
the Commission, the Ordinance now reads that the Commission may allow lot sizes of
not less than 4,000 square feet. Since the lot size is not the issue with condo-
miniums, this section needs to be amended to permit a specific square footage to
address the sale of condominium air space as provided by the condominium procedures.
He noted that the minimum square footage of 700 square feet is being recommended,
and that this would be the minimum square footage for a studio or a one bedroom unit,
and can increase accordingly as the bedrooms are increased. He further stated that,
in making this recommendation, he tried.to take into account some of the storage
requirements as now provided by the condominium ordinance.
Upon being assured by Planning Director Castro that Public Hearing for Amendment
to Subdivision Ordinance Section 9- 3.503, Subsection (b), had been duly published
and posted, Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing open.
Elizabeth Jackson, 208 Fair View Drive, stated with regard to the definition of
bachelor or studio units, from her point of view it would be more appropriate to label
the units as "studio" rather than "bachelor" units. Evelyn Tallman, 532 Carol Place,
inquired as to why the Commission can approve this amendment, but they can't do any-
thing about the second story on the Fuller /Davino project. Planning Director Castro
advised that the Commission can review a project and make a recommendation that re-
stricts the height of a building if they so wish.-
There being no further comments, Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing closed
and restricted further comments to the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Cole stated she would in favor of -a 500 square foot minimum.
Planning Director Castro read the proposed amendment to be added to the Ordinance,
as follows: "In the case of condominiums the Commission may authorize reduction in
the minimum:' floor. area to not less than-500 square feet but with no increase in den-
sity in the overall development ". Mr. Castro further commented that staff is recom-
mending a Request for Negative Declaration be granted.
After a brief discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -751 EIR
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE ACCEPTING NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
DECLARATION.
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Gerrish, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington and Chairman Gorsline.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian.
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -752
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING AN AMENDMENT TO SUBDIVISION
ORDINANCE, SECTION 9- 3.503, SUBSECTION (b).
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Gerrish, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington and Chairman Gorsline
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
CONTINUATION -USE PERMIT CASE NO. 80 -297, CONSTRUCTION OF 22 UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT
IN THE "R -2" DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, 1259 FARROLL AVE.(FULLER /DAVINO)
Planning Director Castro referred to the plans and elevations for the project.
He recalled that. one of•the concerns that. the Commission. had was on the drainage. He
advised that. he had. checked with. City. Engineer. Paul Karp. and it appears that there
is enough capacity for drainage purposes on the proposal as shown. Mr. Castro further
advised that he personally cannot endorse the ponding of water on the property as
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shown on the plan. He stated it was his impression that the owners of the property
being used for ponding purposes for the adjacent tract could not be contacted; how-
ever, he would like for the applicant to attempt to contact the property owner to
see if something can be worked out so that the drainage can be directed from the pro-
ject site to the existing ponding area. He further stated that if the only solution
isthat the drainage be on -site then, in his opinion, there could be a better design
of those ponding areas.
Mr. Castro stated that, other than the above concerns, he has no quarrel with
the project, and he feels' they have revised the plans to meet the City's require-
ments for facilities.
Chairman Gorsline stated he has always been concerned about on -site ponding,
especially where there are going to be children. Mr. Dick Davino, 610 Cerro Vista
Lane, commented that the ponding the architect has designed is one foot deep in
the three areas in front and the two areas in the back, and he didn't see where the
ponding could be too much concern with the youngsters. He further commented that
this area is pure sand and percolates very well. The Architect for the petitioner
briefly explained the drainage areas. He stated that when the drainage is calculated,
it will be as per City requirements. He further stated that the petitioners have
tried, without success, to locate the property owners adjacent to the project with
regard to the ponding area, and they also have contacted the Grandmothers' Mobilehome
Park regarding ponding, but were turned down.
Commissioner Cole stated her understanding of Mr. Castro's comments is that the
project is acceptable with the exception of the ponding, and she would be agreeable
to the suggestion that the developers make a more concerted effort to find the owners
of the property next to this development to see if something could be done to 'drain
the project into that ponding area. Commissioner Gerrish suggested that if the Com-
mission decides it wants to approve the development, that they go ahead and approve
it and let the Planning Director and City Engineer work out the drainage with the
developers. Chairman Gorsline commented that he would like to see a drainage plan
come back to the Commission for review. Planning Director Castro advised that the
granting of the Use Permit should be subject to certification of the amendment to
Section 9- 3.503, Subsection (b) of the Subdivision Ordinance.
After discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -753 U
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT, CASE NO. 80 -297.
On motion-by Commissioner Moots, seconded by'Commissioner Cole, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Moots, Pilkington and Chairman Gorsline
NOES: None
ABSTAIN: Commissioner Gerrish
ABSENT: Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
With regard to Architectural Review Case No. 80 -219, Planning Director Castro
reviewed the conditions recommended in the staff report dated July 30, 1980. Mr.
Castro pointed out that the elevations for the development show a rock roof and he
suggested that perhaps a composition shingle roof might be more practical. The Com-
mission expressed concurrence with this suggestion and requested that a composition
shingle roof be required as a condition of approval.
After discussion, on motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by Commissioner Cole,
and unanimously carried, approving Architectural Review Case No. 80 -219 subject to
the conditions recommended in the staff report dated July 30, 1980, and with the ad-
dition of the following:
9. Development approval subject to certification of amendment to Subdivision
Ordinance Sec. 9- 3.503, Subsection (b).
10. Composition shingle roof to replace rock roof.
PUBLIC HEARING -USE PERMIT CASE NO. 80 -301, 6 UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT, NORTHWEST
CORNER OF SPRUCE AND ASH STREETS, IN THE "R -G" GARDEN APARTMENT DISTRICT. (VELAND)
Planning Director Castro reviewed the plans for the proposed development. He
advised that the parking requirements for each individual unit have been complied
with, and guest parking is being provided on- street with sufficient spaces in ac-
cordance with the Commission's policy. Mr. Castro pointed out that there are no
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recreational facilities for this particular project in that it is an extremely small
project for the type of development and the Soto Sports Complex is right in front
of the property, providing open space. He stated the only additional conditions he
would add are (1) The concrete wall be treated in some way, such as plastered and
capped to give it a finished look and, (2) that the wall be certified for structural
requirements by the Building Department.
Upon being assured by Planning Director
mit Case No. 80 -301 had been duly published,
Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing open.
ience either for or against the proposed Use
hearing closed, and the following action was
On motion by Commissioner
lowing roll call vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -754 U
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT, CASE NO. 80 -301.
Cole, seconded by
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Castro that public hearing for Use Per -
posted and property owners notified,
Upon hearing no continents from the aud-
Permit, Chairman Gorsline declared the
taken:
Commissioner Moots, and by the fol-
Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington and Chairman Gorsline.
None
Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
With regard to Architectural Review Case No. 80 -229, on motion by Commissioner
Cole, seconded by Commissioner Moots, and unanimously carried, approving Architect-
ural Review Case No. 80 -229 subject to the recommended conditions noted in the staff
report dated July 30, 1980, as amended by adding.the following:
#7. That the concrete wall be treated' in some way, such as plastered and
capped to give it a finished look.
#8. That the wall be certified for structural requirements by the Building
Department.
PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, SEC. 9- 4.713, SUBSECTION (a),
PERTAINING TO DENSITIES IN THE "R -2 ", DUPLEX RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.
Planning Director Castro advised that the proposed amendment in this case is
merely modifying the square footage requirements from 2,500 square feet to 3,960
square feet to bring the Zoning Ordinance into conformance with the General Plan den-
sity definition.
Upon being assured by Planning Director Castro that the public hearing for pro-
posed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance, Sec. 9- 4.713, Subsection (a), had'been duly
published and posted, Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing open. Upon hearing no
comments from the audience, Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing closed and the
following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -755 EIR
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE ACCEPTING NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
DECLARATION.
On motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Cole, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington and Chairman
Gorsline.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -756
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING AN AMENDMENT TO ZON-
ING ORDINANCE, SECTION 9- 4.713, SUBSECTION (a).
On motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Cole, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
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Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots,Pilkington and Chairman
Gorsline
NOES: .. None
ABSENT: Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
AYES:
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
PUBLIC HEARING- PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, SEC. 9 -4.813 PERTAINING
TO DENSITIES IN THE' "R -G" GARDEN APARTMENT DISTRICT.
Planning Director Castro advised that the proposed amendment is to modify the
square footage requirements in the "R -G" District from 2,000 square feet to 2,562
square feet in order to bring the Zoning'Ordinance and General Plan into conform-
ance.
Upon being assured by Planning Director Castro that public hearing for the pro-
posed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance, Sec. 9 -4.813 had been duly published and
posted, Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing open. Upon hearing no comments from
the audience, Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing closed and the following action
was taken:
On motion by Commissioner Cole,
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
the foregoing
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners
None
Commissioners
Resolution was
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -757 EIR
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE ACCEPTING NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
DECLARATION.
seconded by. Commissioner Gerrish, and by the
Cole, Gerrish, Moots,Pilkington and Chairman Gorsline
Fischer and Sebastian
adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -758
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING
ORDINANCE, SECTION 9- 4.813.
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Pilkington, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots,Pilkington and Chairman Gorsline
None
Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
the foregoing'Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO ZONING ORDINANCE, SECTION 9- 4.913, SUBSECTION
(a), PERTAINING TO DENSITIES IN THE "R -3" MULTIPLE FAMILY DISTRICT.
Planning Director Castro advised that with regard to the "R -3" District, the
proposed amendment is to modify the square footage requirements from 1,500 square
feet to 2,178 square feet, which would bring the Zoning Ordinance and General Plan
into conformance.
Upon being assured by Planning Director Castro that public hearing for the
amendment to the Zoning Ordinance had been duly published and posted, Chairman
Gorsline declared the hearing open. Upon hearing no comments from the audience,
Chairman Gorsline declared the hearing closed and the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -579 EIR
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE ACCEPTING NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL
DECLARATION.
On motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Cole, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
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AYES:. Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington and Chairman Gorsline.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
On motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner Pilkington, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Cole, Gerrish, Moots, Pilkington and Chairman Gorsline.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Fischer and Sebastian
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 5th day of August 1980.
REQUEST FOR ONE YEAR EXTENSION - LOT SPLIT CASE NO. 79 -318, CERRO VISTA LANE. (ABEL)
Planning Director Castro advised that the lot split in question concerns the
large parcel of land at the end of Cerro Vista Lane adjoining the creek. He further
stated that staff sees no problem with granting the °extension.
After a brief discussion, on motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner
Pilkington, and unanimously carried, granting a one year extension on Lot Split 'Case
No. 79 -318, Cerro Vista Lane.
REVIEW OF PLANS FOR THE NEW ARROYO GRANDE FIRE STATION.
Planning Director Castro advised that the plans for the new fire station have
been reviewed and approved by the City Council, and are being referred to the Plan-
ning Commission for their information. Architect for the project was present and
advised the Commission that it will probably go to bid within 30 days.
After a brief review, on motion by Commissioner Gerrish, seconded by Commissioner
Cole, and unanimously carried, the plans for the proposed fire station were recommended
for approval as presented.
CONSIDERATION OF REQUEST FROM "FLAIR HOUSE" IN SANTA MARIA REGARDING HOUSING FOR
ELDERLY AND OTHERS.
Planning Director Castro advised that the Housing Element will be on the Plan-
ning Commission Agenda for the meeting of August 19th and he felt it would be appro-
priate to consider this matter at that time.
REQUEST FROM FIDELITY SAVINGS & LOAN FOR TEMPORARY MOBILE OFFICE UNIT.
Planning Director Castro advised that Fidelity Savings & Loan has to move from
their temporary location to a mobile unit until their new building is constructed.
He inquired of the Commission whether or not administrative approval for the tempor-
ary unit could be given. After a brief discussion, it was the consensus of the Com-
mission that the proposed temporary mobile unit could be approved administratively.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Commissioner Gerrish advised that he would be out of town at the next Planning
Commission meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was adjourned
by the Chairman at 9:35 P.M.
ATTEST:
RESOLUTION NO. 80 -760
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING_ COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING AN AMENDMENT TO ZONING
ORDINANCE, SECTION 9- 4.913, SUBSECTION (a).