PC Minutes 1978-06-20Arroyo Grande Planning Commission
June 20, 1978
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with
Chairman Gerrish presiding. Present are Commissioners Harris, Moots, Ries,
Simmons and Vandeveer. Commissioner Cole is absent. Also in attendance are
Planning Director Castro and Planner Sullivan.
MINUTE APPROVAL
Upon hearing no additions or corrections, the minutes of the regular
meeting of June 6, 1978 were approved as submitted.
ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO AGENDA
Planning Director Castro requested continuance of the following agenda items:
Item 3. Continuation of Public Hearing - Proposed Zoning Ordinance Amend-
ment - Non - Conforming Uses.
Item 4. Sign Ordinance.
Mr. Castro requested that the following item be added to the Agenda:
Item 6. Exchange of Property by the City of Arroyo Grande for Ponding
Basin Purposes.
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTIONS: ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 78 -170 AND 78 -171, TWO
FOUR UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEXES, SO. ELM STREET (ELMER AND ELVIN SMITH).
Planner Sullivan reviewed the Architectural Committee Action and elevations
of the proposed developments. He advised the elevations for both sets of duplexes
are identical. There being no comments with regard to the proposed developments,
Architectural Committee Action, dated June 14, 1978 was approved as submitted.
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTION: ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 78 -172, ADDITION TO
COMMERCIAL BUILDING, 1360 GRAND AVE. (FRADES).
Planner Sullivan reviewed the Architectural Committee action and the plans
for the proposed addition to a commercial building on Grand Avenue. Mr. Sullivan
advised that there are two existing buildings on the property, and the proposed
addition will encompass the two existing buildings and bring the entire develop-
ment into a single structure. He further advised that the proposed parking is
adequate for the development. There being no comments, Architectural Committee
Action, dated June 14, 1978 was approved as submitted.
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTION: ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 78 -173, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE
BUILDING, 205 SO. HALCYON ROAD (DR. JENKINS).
Planner Sullivan advised that the Architectural Review Committee recom-
mended denial of the proposed development based on the parking arrangement, in
that the arrangement of the structure and the parking simply would not work.
The proposed arrangement would make it difficult to get into some of the spaces.
Commissioner Ries corrected the Committee Action, stating
from voting on the matter because of the fact he has worked with
After a brief discussion, Architectural Committee Action,
1978 was approved as corrected.
he abstained
Dr. Jenkins.
dated June 14,
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTION: ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 77 -131,
141 SO. ELM STREET (GARING & TAYLOR).
Planner Sullivan pointed out that the plans for the office building at
141 So. Elm Street had previously been approved by the Committee, however, since
some minor changes have been made to the approved elevations, the matter was
again reviewed by the Architectural Review Committee. After review it was the
Committee's feeling that the proposed changes were not detrimental to the structure.
OFFICE BUILDING,
There being no discussion, Architectural Review Committee Action dated June
14, 1978 was approved as submitted.
PUBLIC HEARING - ZONING MAP AMENDMENT, PHASE II (NORTH SIDE OF FREEWAY).
Planning Director Castro reviewed the actions required in the second phase
of the zoning plan, as noted in the staff report dated June 16, 1978, and pointed
out on the map the properties that are being rezoned. Mr. Castro made the follow-
ing comments on specific items where concerns and /or complaints have been made:
Item 4. An Area South of East Cherry Avenue and East of Traffic Way -
"RA -B3" and "H -S" District to "A" District. Mr. Castro reviewed that the staff had
made a recommendation for a possible planned industrial development on the subject
property, and there was considerable opposition from the adjoining property owners
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not only on the industrial designation, but also on some of the multiple develop-
ment that staff was suggesting north of Cherry Avenue. Because no plans had yet
been submitted for the property, staff decided to drop the matter, and the
Commission felt that since the property was being used for agricultural purposes
at that time, they recommended the "A" District, with the understanding that the
"A" was not necessarily permanent but merely to reflect the existing land use, and
at such time when the land owner feels that the land should be developed or a
change of the land use takes place, the normal procedure for a General Plan amend-
ment and zoning could be considered. He further advised that the Commission is
more or less "locked" into the "A" District now, because the General Plan has :'been
amendeddtoothe: "A Dis.trict:. He.: suggestedr:that :Mr.. and Mrs. .Williams; :.owners : :.of
the.property, make their requests to the City Council when they review the General
Plan in order to change the designation at that time.
Item 5. An Area Between Poole Street and East Cherry Avenue, and Westerly
of Short Street - "R -3" and "R -1" to "H-S" District. Planning Director Castro
read a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Fernamburg, 302 Short Street, indicating they have
been out of town since May 3rd and would protest any immediate change in zoning
before they have an opportunity to study the situation. Mr. Castro again sug-
gested that the Commission proceed with the consistency of the General Plan and
zoning at this time, and let the matter be reviewed in more detail by the City
Council, and perhaps changed by the Council at that time.
Item 7. An Area Between Nelson and Ide Streets Between One Lot West of
Whiteley Street and the End of the Cul-de-sac of Nelson'Street - "R -3" to "R -1"
District. Mr. Castro read a letter from Mr. Coker Ellsworth, dated June 15,
1978, regarding his property at 213 Whiteley Street, requesting that his property
be retained in the "R -3" District.
After review of the 11 areas proposed for rezoning, and upon being assured
by Planning Director Castro that public hearing for Zoning Map Amendment, Phase II,
has been duly published and property owners notified, Chairman Gerrish declared
the hearing open.
Mr. Myron Williams, 537 Orchard Avenue, spoke with regard to Item No. 4,
which is proposed to be rezoned from "RA -B3" and "H -S" to "A" District. He
stated he and his wife own 14 acres in this area and it is their feeling that this
area is now ripe for development and certainly should not be rezoned to Agricultural
District.
Mrs. Olive Williams, 537 Orchard Avenue, stated that she and her husband
have owned this land for approximately 30 years, feeling that at sometime in the
future it would increase in value and they would be able to enjoy it. She pointed '
out that the property is located in the center of town and is surrounded by
businesses. Mrs. Williams urged the Commission to recommend that this land be
put in the Highway Service District.
Mrs. Sonia Wagner, 509 Ide Street, Chairman of the Business Development
Committee of the Chamber of Commerce, stated they feel there is a very strong
need in this community for industrial development and for jobs. She stated it
is obvious that the community is going to grow and if we maintain strictly a
bedroom community, we are losing valuable tax dollars to other areas. She further
stated that the Williams property is a prime area that can be developed in a
decent way, resulting in a strictly clean, well controlled industrial area, and
the Business Development Committee would like to see this zoned as Highway Service
for use as an industrial park.
Mr. Lou Caballero, representing the First Presbyterian Church and the
Central Coast Christian Academy at 227 Traffic Way, stated they are in opposition
to the rezoning from "H -S" to "R -3 ". He further stated it is their feeling that
if, at all, it should be rezoned, it should be zoned Professional Office District.
Nick Roselle, 139 E. Cherry Avenue, stated he is representing his mother -
in -law and her mother who, together, own the property behind Loomis' property,
which is Item No. 9 of the staff report. He advised they would rather have the
zoning remain as it is now or changed to a lower medium density. They have
rough plans now for one or two duplexes on the property and if it is rezoned to
what the City proposes, then they wouldn't be able to put any kind of living
quarters in there.
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Mr. Jim Vetten, Santa Barbara, Vice President and General Manager of Solar
Air of California, stated that his firm is interested in the area that Mr. and
Mrs. Williams own as a site for a factory to manufacture their solar system, which
would be an assembly line type of operation and would provide 35 or 40 jobs for
the area.
Mr. Vernon Wolfe, 211 Allen Street, stated there is too much traffic on
Allen Street right now, and a business in there would put more traffic on the
street. He didn't feel that that part of town was ready for manufacturing.
Mr. Bob Fernamburg, 895 So. Halcyon Road, stated he would like to reiterate
his parents' position on the rezoning of their property on Short Street from "R -3"
to "R -1" and "H -S" District. Chairman Gerrish advised Mr. Fernamburg that the
Planning Commission previously approved the Land Use Element of the General Plan,
and are now finishing up the Zoning Map amendments to make it conform to the Land
Use Element of the General Plan. The entire package will now go to the City
Council for their action. He further advised that the City Council will also hold
public hearings on the Land Use Element and the Zoning Map amendments, at which time
property owners can again voice their concerns.
There being no further comments on the proposed changes to the zoning map,
Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director Castro pointed out that the Commission does have the
option to go back, but it would mean that all of the actions taken by the Com-
mission on the north side of the freeway on the General Plan and Zoning would
have to be re- advertised and amended. He further advised that the City Council
has the option to change the proposed amendments and, in all probability, would
refer those changes back to the Commission for confirmation.
Commissioner Vandeveer stated, in his opinion, if there have been some
mistakes made on the general assessment of the land use, they should be straightened
out now by the Planning Commission instead of passing it on to the City Council for
them to straighten out. The majority of the Commissioners were in favor of refer-
ring the entire package to the City Council for their action. After further dis-
cussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 78 -624 Z
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE PLANNING
COMMISSION ADOPTING PROPOSED AMENDMENTS TO THE ZONING
MAP, PHASE II, AND RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL
FOR THEIR ACTION AND ADOPTION.
On motion by Commissioner Harris, seconded by Commissioner Ries, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Harris, Moots, Ries, Simmons and Chairman
Gerrish
NOES: Commissioner Vandeveer
ABSENT: Commissioner Cole
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 20th day of June 1978.
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT - NON- CONFORMING
USES.
Planning Director Castro requested continuation of the public hearing to the
next Planning Commission meeting of July 18, 1978, at which time a study session
date will be set on the matter.
SIGN ORDINANCE
At the request of Planning Director Castro, discussion of the Sign Ordinance
was continued to the next Planning Commission meeting of July 18, 1978.
REFERRAL BY CITY COUNCIL - ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION ON TALLY HO DRAINAGE REPORT
Planner Sullivan reviewed the project at this stage, advising that at this
time the project is only an engineering report, however, the Fish and Game Depart-
ment and City Council have become increasingly aware that some Environmental
Determination should be made on the project. From an environmental point of view,
the project involves a 60 ft. right of way along the Tally Ho Creek area, with a
minimum of 20 ft. on the bottom channel, two to one side slopes, 6 ft. deep, and
potentially there could be significant environmental impacts. Staff's recommendation
to the Commission in the Request for Negative Declaration is that the Request be
denied and a Focus Report be ordered. The Focus Report would cover physical environ-
ment, ecology, wildlife, etc. along the creek area.
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Commissioner Harris stated, in his opinion, regardless of the cost and the
time involved, this proposal fits squarly with what the original purpose of the
Environmental Impact Report was intended for; that is, action by a governmental
agency which significantly affects the environment, and it is his feeling that an
Environmental Impact Report should be required.
Commissioner Simmons stated she didn't feel a full blown EIR was required;
that this is a large project but, basically, it only affects about 40 individual
properties and she would go along with the Focus Report. She further stated that
an Environmental Impact Report would tie the project up for months, and that area
cannot afford to sit for that long.
Chairman Gerrish asked for any public input; there being none, the follow-
ing action was taken:
ATTEST:
RESOLUTION NO. 78 -625 EIR
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE DENYING NEGATIVE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
DECLARATION AND REQUIRING A FOCUS REPORT.
On motion by Commissioner Vandeveer, seconded by Commissioner Ries, and
by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Moots, Ries, Simmons, Vandeveer and Chairman
Gerrish
NOES: Commissioner Harris
ABSENT: Commissioner Cole
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 20th day of June 1978.
REFERRAL FROM THE CITY COUNCIL - EXCHANGE OF PROPERTY BY THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE
FOR PONDING BASIN PURPOSES.
Planning Director Castro read a letter from City Administrator Butch, dated
June 15, 1978, with regard to exchange of property for ponding basin purposes. He
also read a letter from Public Works Director Anderson on the same subject, dated
February 24, 1978. Mr. Castro referred to the map and outlined the proposed ex-
change. He advised that the Council had reviewed the matter at their regular
meeting of June 13, 1978, but before they can take action, they need a review and
recommendation of the Planning Commission.
Councilman de Leon was present and spoke on the matter. He advised that
the City needs the drainage pond and there is no other place to proivide for that
drainage. He stated that the City will deed its property to Mr. Carmichael for
the use of his land as long as it is needed for ponding purposes.
After considerable discussion regarding the proposed exchange of property
with Mr. Carmichael, it was the feeling of .ome of the Commissioners that they
did not have enough information to make an adequate recommendation to the City
Council. The Commission requested continuance of the matter to the next meeting
of July 18, 1978, and that copies of the proposed agreement be provided for their
review. They also requested that Public Works Director Anderson attend the meet-
ing to review the proposed property exchange.
ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Harris requested that a meeting be held on the regular meeting
date of July 4th, or that an alternate be considered. After a discussion, a vote
by the Commission members resulted in the meeting of July 4th being cancelled, and
the next regular meeting to be held on July 18, 1978.