PC Minutes 1977-12-06Arroyo Grande Planning Commission
December 6, 1977
The Arroyo Grande Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman
Gerrish presiding. Present are Commissioners Cole, Harris, Hitchen, Moots, Ries
and Vandeveer. Also in attendance are Planning Director Castro and Planner Sullivan.
MINUTE APPROVAL
Upon hearing no additions or corrections, the minutes of the regular meeting
of November 20, 1977 were approved by the Chairman as submitted.
REVIEW OF OPEN SPACE AND EOUESTRIAN DEVELOPMENT PLANS FOR THE OAK PARK DEVELOPMENT.
Staff requested that this matter be held over until additional information is
received..
REVIEW COMMITTEE DCTIONS - ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 77 -149, SO. ELF! STREET,
24 UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX - RESUBMITTAL (PACE),
Planner Sullivan gave a brief presentation, noting the redesign of the units
involved, and reviewed the requirements made by the Architectural Review Committee
on November 30, 1977. It was pointed out that the redesign was quite different
from the original design and the staff felt that the resubmittal was much better
than the plan originally submitted. After discussion, the Committee action of
November 30, 1977 was accepted by the Chairman as submitted.
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING CASE NO. 77 -100, FROM "A" AGRICULTURAL
DISTRICT TO "P -D" PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, SOUTH SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY CITIZENS
?AliCILITY (SAN LUIS OBISPO COUNTY) .
Planning Director Castro explained it was his understanding that the reason for
the continuance of the Public Hearing was pending an Environmental Impact Report from
the County and a master plan for the development of that property. Mr. Castro ex-
plained the feelings of the staff, noting there were some differences of opinion
among the staff, and requested that the matter be continued until a meeting can be
arranged with the County to resolve these differences.
Howard Hankins inquired as to how long the delay would be, because funding
must be considered. Planning Director Castro advised that a meeting could be held
this week or next week, and could probably be brought back before the Commission
by December 20th, or by January 3rd at the latest.
Colonel Sorenson, Deputy County Planning Director, spoke in support of the
rezoning and noted that they have reviewed the staff's report and recommendations
and have discussed it briefly. He stated that some of the items listed had been
discussed before, and that the County is committed to the Frontage Road improvement.
He feels that the big thing here is coordination with the City, because part of the
Daunty's Frontage Road will need to connect with the City's Frontage Road, and they
need to be designed together. In the meantime the County has budgeted and is look-
ing to proceed with the first phase development, as noted in the master plan that
has been approved by the Board of Supervisors. The first phase includes general
site work, including utilities, a branch library facility, and a citizens' community
center facility, and a County maintenance yard facility. The first phase does not
include a School District facility, and while the County has master planned the site
to allow for complimentary governmental structures, there is no stated intent that
that or any other particular structure is to be part of the master plan. The con-
cept has been to consolidate existing County facilities to one site rather than
have them spread as they are presently on a number of sites, and also to try and
look ahead with sufficient foresight to allow other governmental facilities that
are complimentary to be there, and we don't know at this point what those might
be.
Colonel Sorenson stated specifically, regarding the conditions, the County
would support the third condition that calls for the City comment on the archi-
tectural work. He stated they are in that phase now and he will arrange to talk
to Mr. Castro for City input into the processing design work that ifs-taking place
at this time. With regard to Halcyon Road, the County recognises the City's need
for circulation planning in this area as it develops and, in' hie' opinion, this is
more of a technical question as to the best location for it,`and.that.their previous
review doesn't indicate that this is the proper location for it, but the County will
be glad to review those reasons with the Planning Director. ;C lonilggrenson further
stated he wanted to emphasise the fact that they have worked very diligently with
the St. Patrick's School people and developed their drive as a a and
developed this 4s ,s City street type for their facility, and ° tarp LO °,1 CaW it , a
full 1ledged may Mean going back to those eegvels said a anti ag: that
committee workea11 over again.
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Mr. Bill McCann, 428 Tanner Lane, stated it was his understanding that the
County is able to put this facility on this particular site regardless of whether
or not the City rezones the property. He further stated he feels this leaves it
open in the future once this land is rezoned to "P -D ", the County can then lease
or sell any part of that land for any use that is applicable to a "P -D" zoned
district, and he didn't think the City should leave themselves open for such a
thing.
Supervisor Mankins stated the County has no intention of leasing land to any-
body. He stated they had offered the City of Arroyo Grande, Grover City, Pismo
Beach and the School District the opportunity to use some of this land for govern-
mental facilities if they wanted. He pointed out that no one took up the offer
except the School District. He further stated that the School District has
absolutely no plans at this time for building on that site.
Mr. Wayne Allen, 710 Cornwall, stated he was an employee of the Lucia Mar
School District and was very much concerned about other financial needs that the
District has, and he would recommend that the Commission be very careful before
they open up such a thing as this, and that he sees no need to open the door to
go ahead with the Administration Building which could result.
In answer to Doris Olson's question as to why Commissioner Hitchen had not
disqualified himself during the foregoing discussion, Commissioner Hitchen ad-
vised that as this is being presented right now, the School District is not in-
volved in Phase I in any manner.
Mrs. Langworthy inquired of Mr. Sorenson if there has been any talk with
the school regarding the installation of a set of stop lights at the underpass.
Colonel Sorenson stated there had been none that he has been a party to,, although
he knew there had been , discussions with the school, including County representatives,
about general circulation, traffic flow, and one of the things that was looked at
was a better intensive way to separate vehicles, pedestrians and bicycles for the
school, and one of the features of this plan is that there would be a separate
entrance for the school off of what is shown as Halcyon Drive, which is the road
that goes up the hill.
Colonel Sorenson asked that if it is the Commission's decision to continue
the hearing, they would ask for an early hearing to resolve the matter.
.There being no further discussion for or against the proposed rezoning request,
Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed. •
After a brief discus on motion by Commissioner Moots, seconded by •
Commissioner Cole, and unanimously carried, that the public hearing be reopened
and continued until the next regular meeting of December 20, 19 -7, with the under-
standing that City and County'staff will be able to resolve the differences,in
that time.
PUBLIC HEARING - PREZONING CASE NO. 77 -114, "A" AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT TO "R -1"
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, HUASNA ROAD (WELLS).
Upon being assured by Planning Director Castro that public hearing for Pre -
zoning Case No. 77 -114 had been duly posted, published and property owners noti-
fied, Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing open.
Planning Director Castro advised that Mr. Wells had submitted a request to
LAFCO to annex his 12 acre parcel on Huasna Road to the City of Arroyo Grande,
LAFCO, at their regular meeting of October 20; 1977, on a 3 - 2 split vote, approved
the annexation request to the City subject to the following conditions:
1. The annexation cannot be properly filed and completed until the
property has been rezoned (prezoning) by the City of Arroyo Grande.
2. Adopt the policy that no further annexations be allowed on the
northeastern side of the City until Spheres of Influence are
established.
3. Authorize the City to complete the annexation without further
notice, hearing, and election.
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RESOLUTION NO. 77 -577 Z
Mr. Castro stated the question before the Planning Commission now is whether or
not they are 'so inclined to prezone the'property'now'and submit their recommendation
to the City Council for their action. Should the prezoning be disapproved by the
Planning Commission, then the matter dies at this point in time. In view of the
LAFCO recommendations, it is staff's opinion that the application should be denied.
Planning Director Castro reviewed the three reasons for staff's recommendation as
listed in his letter . b0 the Planning Commission, dated December 2,
Mr. Lonnie Wells, 329 Traffic Way, petitioner for the prezoning, displayed a
map and - photographs of the area, and described the land in question.
Mr. Jackie Stewart, 202 Pearwood Avenue, stated he lives in the area, and it
was his feeling that if the prezoning is approved it would be an improvement to the
City, and he was in agreement with Mr. Wells' proposal. Mr. Jack Huber, 208 Pearwood
Avenue, stated he is in favor of the rezoning. Mr. Lee Drummond, 204 Pearwood;
Elliott Burdick, 130 Pearwood; Mr. Rose, 212 Pearwood; Dallas O'Neil, 206 Pearwood;
Tony Azevedo, Rt. 2, Box 567A; spoke in favor of the prezoning request.
Christine Phillips, 216 Pearwood, stated she is opposed to the rezoning. Ms.
Phillips submitted a petition containing approximately 161 signatures of citizens
throughout the City, stating they were opposed to the annexation because there are
not enough resources to serve all of the land within the City now, much less annex-
ing additional land. Cassandra Johnson, 150 Pearwood; Mr. Robert Phillips, 216
Pearwood; Ella Honeycutt, 560 Oak Hill Road; Elizabeth Jackson, 208 Fairview Drive;
Marie Cattoir, 195 Orchid Lane; Madeline Steele, 1598 Hillcrest Drive, spoke in
opposition to the prezoning request.
Chairman Gerrish asked if anyone in audience neither for or against the
prezoning would like to speak to the question at this time. Mr. Joe Rose stated
he moved here from a city where they tried to.keep to themselves and didn't want
to go any farther than the city limits'then - they'were bottle necked in by other
cities and couldn't do anything. Mr. Robert Phillips, 216 Pearwood, stated it
seems impossible that Arroyo Grande is going to run out of land since we have many
miles of open land.
Mr. Lonnie Wells clarified on the map the proposed 25 ft. of land that he
offered to deed to the residents of Pearwood Avenue and the drainage easement to
be deeded to the City. Mr. Wells referred to the LAFCO report stating that they
estimate that 50 homes will generate about 34 or 35 children, and that his project
would be about 44 homes, and on the same formula that LAFCO uses, that would mean
about 29 children. He further stated that he doesn't think this particular tract
will bring any more people into the area; the people are here or they are going to
come here anyway. He didn't feel this development would overload any of the City's
-facilities. As far as water is concerned, Mr. Wells stated he has a well out there
that has been tested as to quantity and quality, and he would turn it over to the
City; it will produce enough water to handle 187 homes.
Madeline Steele, 1598 Hillcrest, referred to Mr. Wells statement that the
tract would generate about 29 children, and pointed out the cost of educating one
\ child is about $1,200 per year, which would be an additional burden to our school
system.
There being no further discussion for or against the proposed prezoning,
Chairman Gerrish declared the hearing closed.
Planning Director Castro advised that his position right now is that he
doesn't believe the City should be making any committments to any property owner
by annexing until we know that we will have ample water resources to take care
of the current developments.
Chairman Gerrish stated he was concerned about the prime agricultural land
question, and he would like to see the Sphere of Influence defined so that the
Commission can then make rational determinations on annexations.
After additional discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION OF:THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE DENYING WITHOUT PREJUDICE AN AMENDMENT
TO THE'MUNICIPAL CODE OF THE CITY OF ARROYO, GRANDE,
AS PROVIDED. BY, CHAPTER 4, ARTICLE 32, OE SAID CODE.
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On motion by Commissioner Vandeveer, seconded by Commissioner Cole, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 6th day of December 1977.
ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 77 -150, TENTATIVE TRACT NO. 672, "OAK PARK LEISURE
GARDENS" (O'NEAL AND KVIDT).
' Chairman Gerrish advised that this matter would be carried over pending receipt
of additional information.
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTION - ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 77 -155, 1146 ASH STREET, 16
UNIT APT. (LINDSEY).
Chairman Gerrish reviewed the conditions of approval by the Architectural
Committee Report, dated November 9, 1977. After a brief discussion, the Committee
recommendations were approved by the Chairman as submitted.
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTION - ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 77 -157, PROFESSIONAL OFFICE
COMPLEX, GRAND AVENUE (FILER).
Planner Sullivan reviewed the plans for the Commission and read the conditions
of approval by the Architectural Committee. Planning Director Castro advised that
the plans submitted for the project were very complete; that the landscaping plans
were very detailed and, in his opinion, the project should be quite an attractive
addition to the City.
After a brief discussion, Architectural Committee
1977 was approved by the Chairman as submitted.
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTION - ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO.
7 UNIT APT. COMPLEX (N & H BUILDERS)
Planner Sullivan advised the Commission that the application submitted by
N & H Builders was reviewed and denied by the Architectural Review Committee, and
a resubmittal was requested. Mr. Sullivan reviewed the reasons for denial as list-
ed in the Architectural Review Committee Action, dated November 30, 1977.
REVIEW COMMITTEE ACTION - ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW CASE NO. 77 -159, 1174 FAIR OAKS AVE.,
19 GARDEN APARTMENT UNITS (VIP FUTURE CORP.)
Planner Sullivan reviewed the conditions of approval and displayed the ele-
vations of the project. After a brief discussion, Architectural Committee Action,
dated November 30,.1977 was approved by the Chairman as submitted.
RESOLUTION OF INTENTION
Planning Director Castro requested the Commission adopt a Resolution of 'Intention
to rezone and conclude the General Plan amendments for the properties north of Le Point
Street, and the Crown Hill area. The Commission has amended the General Plan for these
areas to be revised to low density residential, and at this time an amendment to the
Zoning Ordinance is required.
On motion by Commissioner Cole, seconded by Commissioner Ries, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
the
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Cole, Harris, Hitchen, Moots, Ries, Vandeveer
and Chairman Gerrish
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RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE EXPRESSING INTENTION TO INITIATE
A ZONE CHANGE.
Commissioners Cole, Harris, Hitchen, Moots, Ries, Vandeveer
and Chairman Gerrish
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foregoing Resolution was adopted this 6th day of December 1977.
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RESOLUTION NO. 77 -578 Z
Action, dated November 30,
77 -158, 1161 ASH STREET,
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APARTMENT COMPLEX ON CROWN HILL
Planning Director Castro advised,`with regard.to the Ryzner development which
fronts on Le Point Terrace, there was some concern as to what plans the Commission
reviewed and the setback requirements. Mr. Castro displayed a set of revised plans
and explained the changes between them and the plans that were originally reviewed
and approved by the Commission. He stated that the staff wanted to identify the
changes to the Commission for their information, and to see if they had any concerns
or questions. Commissioner Moots stated he was glad to see something coming back
to the Commission for approval that had been altered from the original plan, and
expressed appreciation to the Planning staff.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Chairman Gerrish advised he would be out of town for the next Planning
Commission meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business before the Commission, the meeting was
adjourned by the Chairman at 9:30 P.M.
ATTEST:
Pla ing Director
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