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PC Minutes 1973-06-19Arroyo Grande Planning Commission June 19, 1973 .The Arroyo Grade Planning Commission met' In regular session with Chairman Jones presiding. Present are Commissioners CalhOon, Goulart and Spierling. Commissioners Gullickson, Pope and Porter are absent. Also in attendance are City Administrator Butch, Councilmen Talley and de Leon, and Planning Director Gallop; MINUTE APPROVAL On motion by Commissioner Spierling, seconded by Commissioner Cllhoon, and unanimously carried, the minutes of the regular meetincj of June 5, 1973 were approved as prepared. REVIEW - USE PERMIT CASE NO. 72 -200 m E UIPMENT YARD HIGHWAY l01 DOKO PROPERTY R BAKER CONSTRUCTION CO. Director Gallop reviewed that last November, R. Baker Construction Company filed for a Use Permit to utilize the old Doko Equipment Yard for heavy equipment and contractor's yard. In his application hw stated the use would bee temporary use. only After the hearing the Commission approved a Use Permit for sip months and /or a 30 day cancellation clause, and reconsideration at the end of six months. The property is located on the frontage road of Highway 101. A former non - conforming use was terminated due to non -use of one year or more, and since that time there have been two uses permitted on the property through limited and restricted Use Permits. Director Gallop suggested that if the Commission wishes to consider the matter, that it be again extended subject to a 30 day cancellation at any time. He advised it is his understanding from engineers, property owners, and others, that there is potential development on abutting properties that will provide a better and higher used in connection with the planned development in conjunction with the other properties. After discussion the following action was taken: On motion by Commissioner Goulart, seconded by Commissioner Spierling, and on the following roll call vote, to wit; AYES: NOES: ABSENT: the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 19th day of June, 1973. REQUEST FOR DETERMINATION OF_USE o TEMPORARY MOBILEHOME SALES IN A C-11 ZONE Director Gallop referred to a letter from H. C. El l iott, Inc:.., inquiring as to whether or not it would be permissive to conduct temporary mobilehome sales on the southerly portion of the C °N Zone of Valley Road, which is a part of the ownership of his mobilehome development. The property is sufficiently Large enough for perhaps eight or more units. Director Gallop advised that he would normally have to recommend strongly against such a use in the C -N Zone, however, it was his feeling that in view of the development of the mobilehome park going up adjacent to this C °N Zone, it might be worth considering on a very strict limited basis; Director Gallop suggested a definite time 1°omit, improvement controls, etc., to make it as compatible as possible with the area in questaon. Commissioner Goulart stated he felt strongly that this use should not be allowed in the C-N Zone because (1) the C °N District was not established for heavy commercial use, (2) during the Public Hearing on the mobilehome park, it was brought out that there would be no trailers placed on the flat land adjacent to Valley Road, and (3) he stated that no trailers would be allowed on the property until a segment of the park was completed, and then, only in that segment of the Perk, He also pointed out there would be traffic problems, etc. on Valley Road. He felt the use would be too heavy with the traffic the way it is, RESOLUTION NO. 73-300 U RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION or THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE AMENDING RESOLUTION NO. 72 -274 U,_ USE PERMIT CASE NO;. 72 200. Commissioners Calhoon, Goulart and Spierling Chairman Jones Commissioners Gull'o.ckson, Pope and Porter Arroyo Grande,Planning Commission, 6 -19e73 Page 2 Commissioners Spierling and Calhoon stated they would go .along with the use for a limited period. Mr. Dick Smith, stated he worked for Mr. H. C. Elliott, and it was their opinion that they Hood this access to help soli coaches to .help fill the pork They aro building Units 1 ond.S, which @mount@ to 120 units out of the total park, and It puts thorn in a vory poor position to hovo to expend tho ronoy to build, comploto, landseopo and totally finish tho 120 units boforo they eon oven bogin to loll tho eooehos to go into tho @o units. Ho statod thoy ore plonning to develop tho othor half of the eornrnoreial property with o neighborhood typo business, and they fool thot @ine@ it is adJoeont to tho mobil@homo park, it is roosonoblo to roguo @t that thoy bo allowod to put in o r @o @onoblo display of mobil €homos. Ho noted that thoso display units would not bo occupied. With mord to tho troffie problem, Mr. Smith. @tot @d ho didn't boltovo it would bo affoet@d too much on@ way or the othor, in that people or@ going to eomo in to look of tho park to @oo if they 11ko it, and ho didn't b@ltovo the troffie would thcrooso by putting this in on the Gomm@rtIol property, and t.hot they would b@ willing to obido by whotevor r@o @onoblo r@@trtetion@ this Commie @ton wished to impel@. Ho @ toted thoro would bo no flags, no flo @hIng noon signs, @to. M@ further odvisod that Choy folt it would b@ putting th @m of o con @Id @robl@ di @odvontog@ to hovo to wait until tho dovolopm@nt is finish @d and th @n c ®mm @nc@ trying to fill it up. Commissi ®nor 0oulort inguirod a@ to why the sot@@ couldn't toko plot@ in o Comm@rciol District which allow@ this u@@, Mr. Smith @ toted that h@ ho@ look @d for such on ono, and that thoro t@n't any ploe@ ovotloblo that would b@ d@@Irobl@ from tho standpoint of how to got tho mot roturn for your effort, Commissionor Ooulart stotod ho folt thoro i@ o di@advontogo bocouso of tho fact that it t& o non- pormissivo u@@ within tho aono, ond ho fool@ that the obJoet to put thorn In thoro is groat, but ho don @n't fool thoro I@ Justifiod ovidoneo for any benefit to tho City. With regard to tho traffic, Gomml@@ionor 0ou1@rt @toted h@ fool@ that aftor tho pork is eomplotod and oll improvomont@ or@ in on Volloy Rood, this would.trnprove tho troffie condition@ of tho time of tho tncroo @o in tho volume of troffie Into tho park. Mr. Smith @ toted ho would bo willing to @uggo @t tho Commie @ion grant tho use based on tho fact that tho potitbonor aehiovo the widening, curb, guttor and lido® walks on Volloy Rood in connoetion with the U @o Permit. Aftor further dl @cu @slon, tho following oetion woe token; RESOLUTION N0, 73 ®301 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNIN0 COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE DETERMINING THAT A TEMPORARY MOBILE - HOME SALES LOT ADJACENT TO AN APPROVED MO®ILEHOME PARK IS PERMISSIVE IN THE C ®N DISTRICT SUBJECT TO USE PERMIT PROCEDURE. On motion by commissioner Spiorltng, seconded by Commissioner Colhoon, and by the following roll ca11 vet@, to wit: AYES: . Gommisslonor@ Colhoon, Spiorling and Cholrmon Jonos NOES :' Commtssionor 0oulort ABSENT: Commissionor@ 0ullick @on, Popo and Portor The foregoing Resolution was adopted this 19th day of Juno, 1913. D rector Ga op a=v t t o property Is on the southwest corner..of. the Intersection of The Pike and Elm Street, in o C -N' ono. :The.storo,i @;a permissive use, and the free standing sign for Identification of the store is per- mitted by Uso Permit procedure. 'The In face Is 8'3" x 10'3 ", or o total of 84.5 sq. ft. per face; the overall height is slightly more than.2 ', with a grade. . clearance of approximately 1S'; @II within the permissive limits of the district. Director Gallop advised that architectural approval Is yet to follow and will undoubtedly require a landscape area at the foot of the sign. He recommended that If the Use Permit Is granted, that the sign be within the above mentioned dimensions, and the following conditions be placed on the Use Permit: Arroyo Orando Planning Commission; 6 -19.73 Page 3 1. Underground utility s@rvt @@s. 2. No encroachment into the publi@ right -of -way. 3. Sign to b@ non- fle §htng, non- rotating and Interior tllumlhet @d. b. Lo @et @d within the planter es tndi @et @d on the piens on fll @. Upon being essur @d by Director gellep that the public h@erIng for Use Permit Cas@ N. 73410 had been duly published posted and property owners notified, Chairmen Jens declared the hearing open. Mr. Smith, 29P1 Paul Ple@@, stated it was his understanding that the arf3a in question was to b@ used as a r @er @alien area when It was developed. Dire @ter dell ®p edvis @d 'this ar @a has bMI toned Commercial for at least: ten years that he knows of. He further advised that the store is permissive, and the only r@. qutrem@nt is that ar @hit @ @turel approval is given. No further diseussl @n for er against the proposed Use Permit, Chairman Jones declared the hearing closed and following action war takant RESOLUTION NO. 7).302 U RESOLUTION OF ThS PLANN I ND COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO DRANO€ DRANTlND A USE PtRMiT CASE NO, 73510. On Totten by Commission er 6eulart, seconded by Commission @r Spt@rling, end by the f ©1 lowing .rol i Bail vet: @, to wits AYES: Commissioners Calhoen, Doulert, Spi@rling and Chairman ...Jones NOBS: None ASSENT; Commissioners Dullt@kson, Pep@ end Porter The foregoing Resolution was @dept: @d this 19th day of June 157j. rector €e op a -vise= the AIghF @Fu @st for a mew motel under eon. stru @tion between ® @nn@tt ® @1l end E1 tamtfo Reel. The proposed sign hes.e total ov@rell height of 20'1 the sign face is P' a 10', with @ C board" epproxtmet @ly S' s 8' to @et @d below the sign fete. The sign Is well within the limits of the Distrt @t. Dir@ @ter De11®p no he Was concerned about the 5' e1@eran @@ from grade, end even though It will be to @et @d within the planter area, there my be a deng @r of som eone .going and @rn @ath its b@ further advis @d that the entire bank along the 11 Camtn® Seal .. €ronteg@ Is going to be land §wiped, as r@qu t r @d by a r @h t t@ @lure l approval, Upon being essur @d by Dtr@ @tor gallop that publt@ h@ertng for Us@ is@rmIt Ces@ No.. 73-211 had bon duly publish @U, posted end property owners notified, Cheirmen Jane@ d @ @ler @d the hearing open. Mr. Paul Mormon, r @pr @s@ptetty@ of City Neon San Luis Obispo, petnt @d . out that there is P' to grade from the bottom of the reed @r beard, end that: they chose the low level hecause 'i it was _ the i r feeling the t since there Is n® sidewalks anyple @@ @round there end the sign is least: @d In the planter er @a, there would be no problem with the sign int @rferring with people walking by Mr. 01 @n Cherry, one of the developers, sp ®I® In fever of the Use Permit being granted stettng they felt the §ig `ftself ts°g®tng to be outstanding and they have In@orporet @d the Si anIno @11 AA pert of the sign. No furth @r discussion for or egefn §t the proposed Use Permit, Chal^rmer Jon d eclar ed the hearing closed. In answer to Commissioner Spi@rltng's question as to what ltebiltty the City would hev@ concerning injury to any person bumping Into the sign, Dir@ @tor Oe11op edvts @d that the City would have no liability es the In is on privet@ property. After a brief discussion the following afsti n was taken: 1 Arroyo Grande Planning Commission,: 65J9-73 _ Page 4 RESOLUTION NO. 73x303 U RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMM I SS.I O,N pf TL r c ELF OF ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT! GASH N4, : 73-211. rj On motion by'Commissio nr Spl@rlirg, s@condod by Commisslo nr Gnlart and by the following roll tali vote, to wit: AYES: Commisslon@rs Colhoon, 0oulort, Spl@riing and Chairman Jon @s NOES: Non ABSENT; Commisslon@rs Oullickson, Pop@ and Port @r Th@ 1•or @going R @sotutton was adoptod this 19th day of Juno, 197J. RI NO ® OPEN SPACE AND CONSERVATION ELEMENTS_ 1F THE GENERAL PLAN D rector (id op r @v @w @ t.@ r@qy Tomont or t.@ @rid 1 h@ I nt @n1 . M@ odvl sod tho 11,11, j : as proper @d, is to moot the 1@gislotiv@ r@guir @m@uts ..o-nd :1® o11 n @.,1ha ,oasig„ -areas for tong std @rotIon of this Commissl ®n in looking of future d @v@lopM@nts of the tot01 City. N@ folt the Open Span Etamtut -:1s saying, In offoc , what rho City Is going to b@ r@gutr @d to prof @c1 os M@ch oper.Spaco as possible within this particular locality. W@ scot @d h@ €@1% the smo11 city Is going to In It most difficult to ostoblIsh any gr@ot amount of -aroo to 1ruo op@r::..,spoco shot. the City tan ma 1 nto i n. ho Further f@l 1 that on of the .mg t.n :th tngs .1 hg t94151 be accomplishod by the odoptlon of this @1 @m@nt is shot wo or@ odopting. @nt :: backing the County Op @.n Spoc@ Pion which is quit@ pr @cis@ and gait@- @mt@nsiv@, and thos@ spot @s in the County will, of @ours@, b@ odvontog @ous to ovorybody in tho smo11 towns. D1r@ctor Oollop €urihor sto1 @d ho t@lt wo or@ not creot- ing o situation whoro wo or@ limiting or r@stritting toy on indtvidu @1 from dovolopmont of his property; what w@ or@ 6.oying is that w@ permit th @s@ pooplo to dovolop the land within the Lond Us@ Pion criteria, but to do It in such o way that open spot@ is motntoln @d. Diroctor Gallop reforr @d to tho Conservation §Potion of the F'1 @m@nt oa outltnod on Pogo 17. Ho point@@ out that the Pion Mop indicot @s most of the oroos which wo hove o1r@ody r@cogn.lg@d in our bond Us@ Pion, B@outtfi cation Pion and Pork§ and R @tr@a n on Pion off. :or@os to b@ profott@d-, b@. scot @d th @y havo oddod tho drainage §wail on the north@riy port of the. City odjac @d.1 Oak Pork Boulevard. Upon boing assurod by Dir @ctor gallop that public: :hearing for the - @n Spot® and Gonaorvatlon Fl @m@nts of tho Oon@ral Plan had boon duly published, Chairman Jonos declarod the h@aring op on. Mr. Jim Moor@, ROO N@laon Stro @t, r @f@rr @d to his writton comment§, which w ore previously glv @n to Mr. gallop, And §ubmItt @d onoth @r copy, noting that ho had add @d`anothor paragraph to the comments. Director gallop pointed out that Mr. Moor@ has boon quit@ ins @rest @d In opon spot@, and portt@ularly In tha development of beaches by the State. Mr. Wottkomp, 231 So. Alpin@ Str @ @t, drat @d h@ was o County Farm Advisor, and as ho and @r§tand§ the Pion, th @r@ Is r@a11y no Intontlon of prosorving agricultural land in the City. b@ §tot @d tho pion is vague and the mops oro vary poor, and he wonder @d If the planners who wrote this hove any Idea whoro tho ogrtcultural land is, Ho further scot @d that whon you hove prtmo land, von though In tf.@ LIm!t , It_ was his fooling that the Impact of d@voloping this lone h 1 @v@n't0 @11y @@iie1oping land along std@ of It. Ho not that In this va11 @y w@ hove '§om@ of th`@ rich @at farm land In the country and It was his f@ell,ng. that w@ should §av@ tho root of that 1% of farm land, Ho §tat @d th@ plan dooa not @von d@lln @ate the agricul- tural oroos In the City, and the Op @n Spoc@ Plon door not hove any hard fast rules to prosorve agricultural land. COMMISSIONER POPE ENTERED THE MEETING DURING THE ABOVE; DISCUSSION Mr. Jim Moore road tho loot paragraph of his comments to the Commisston, and stated he would question that the schools should be shown on the map as open space; and what looks Ilk@ aufl:ici @nt opon §pat@ today is not on ugh 50 years from now. b@ pointed out that so many probl @ma In planning hingoa on other problems 1Ik@ taxes, tranaportatlon and opon §pat@. Arroyo Grande Planning Commission, 6 -19-73 Page 5 Mr. Denton Adams, 615 Myrtle Street, inquired as to what is going to happen along the creek bank. Director Gallop advised that the creek has been designated in the Land Use Plan, Beautification, and Parks and Recreation Elements of the General Plan as being an area to be eventually acquired by the City and preserved as park area, and with open space zoning being required, we may now make this mandatory. This has been recognized for at least 6 or 7 years and this new law now makes it easy for the City to protect it even though it may be retained in private ownership. He advised the streambed is entirely in private ownership; and the only portion publicly owned is that portion immediately behind the City Hall and small portions deeded to the City in connection with various developments. He pointed out that we can now protect it from encroachment through this Open Space zoning. Mrs. Jackson, 998 Sycamore Drive, stated she felt that no consideration is being given to the farm land and the open space, and she hoped that the Commission will give as much consideration to the farm land as they and giving to the contractors that are coming in to develop. Mrs. Sally Weitkamp stated she attended the Community Congress meetings and it was obvious that the people are desirous of preserving agriculture in this area, and she felt it could be preserved in the City Limits. Mr. John Guistman, 421 Woodland Drive, stated he agreed in preserving agricultural lands, and he felt new development should be up towards the hills and leave the prime agricultural land as is. Director Gallop stated that primarily the only areas which are delineated are the Arroyo Grande Creek and its tributaries, City Parks, recognition of the City Park Element of the General Plan, and the drainage basin adjacent to and paralleling Oak Park Boulevard; these are the only areas set out at this moment, and pointed out the fact that this is the place to start. He commented that as time goes by, we will have to increase this area, and we will need other tools before we can do this, and they are gradually coming in through legis- lative enactment and then we can start delineating other areas for open space consideration. No further discussion for or against the Open Space and Conservation Elements of the General. Plan, Chairman Jones declared the hearing closed. Commissioner Pope stated that even though this is not a final plan, it is a start and can grow from there. Insofar as legislative requirements are concerned, he stated he would be in favor of the plan now and, hopefully, we can improve upon it as time goes by. After considerable discussion, the following action was taken: RESOLUTION NO. 73 -304 A RESOLUTION 'OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF. THE CITY "OF ARROYO' GRANDE ADOPTING THE OPEN. SPACE AND CONSERVATION ELEMENTS ,OF THE GENERAL PLAN. On motion by Commissioner Pope, seconded by Commissioner Spierling, and by the following roll call vote, to wit: AYES: Commissioners Calhoon, Goulart, Pope, Spierling and Chairman Jones NOES: None ABSENT: Commissioners Gullickson and Porter The foregoing Resolution was adopted this 19th day of June, 1973. Commissioner Spierling moved to amend the foregoing Resolution by adding that (1) as an amendment to the General Plan, Mr. Moores comments in the middle of the first page regarding "acquiring strips of land about 10 feet wide along fence lines in open spaces for public foot paths" and, (2) the comments on the second page with regard to the Hoosegow project being con- sidered an open space project, and a small sign being erected at the opening between the buildings next to the shoe store on Branch Street saying "Public Footpath to Hoosegow ", and (3) recognize in this plan, the existing Land Use Element, Parks and Recreation Element in relationship to acquiring community park and neighborhood park land, and the Beautification Element with reference to Green Belt areas. Motion seconded by Commissioner Goulart, and carried. 11 12 Arroyo Grande Planning Commission, 6 -19 -73 Page 6 COMMISSION DETERMINATION - VACATION OF "JOE" STREET IN TRACT #150 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MONTEGO STREET. Director Gallop reviewed that the public hearing had been held at the June 5th meeting, and the Commission requested staff to contact the City Attorney as to disposition of the property. He stated he did discuss the matter with Mr. Shipsey, City Attorney and, in Mr. Shipsey's opinion and in the opinion of the title company, it was agreed that one -half of the street go to each of the abutting property owners. It was the City Attorney's opinion that this property be split jointly between the lots on each side of "Joe" Street. Director Gallop advised that the City would probably retain an easement over all or a portion of this property for sewer, water, drainage, etc. It would be vacated with a recommendation that adequate P.U.E. be maintained. Director Gallop noted that if the abandoned street is split between the two property owners, they can do any- thing they want with it, however, they could not build a house or building on it. Director Gallop stated that, at this point, this is not a final determination; it is an opinion of the City Attorney. The Commission action would be a recom- mendation to the City Council and at that point the City Attorney will make a final determination as to the disposition of the property. After discussion, the following action was taken: RESOLUTION NO. 73 - 305 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING VACATION OF THAT STUB STREET KNOWN AS "JOE" STREET IN TRACT #150 ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF MONTEGO STREET. On motion by Commissioner Spierling, seconded by Commissioner Calhoon, and by the following roll call vote, to wit; The foregoing Resolution was adopted this 19th day of June, 1973. ADJOURNMENT There being no further business before the Commission, on motion by Commissioner Spierling, seconded by Commissioner Calhoon, and unanimously carried, the meeting was adjourned at 9:55 P.M. ATTEST: AYES: NOES: ABSENT: Commissioners Calhoon, Goulart, Pope and Spierling Chairman Jones Commissioners Gullickson and Porter ,o, 06„ Secretary 1