PC Minutes 1970-04-071
Planning Commission
Arroyo Grande, California
April '7, 1970
The. Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman Moss presiding.
Present are Commissioners Combe, St. Denis and Strother. Commissioners Kane, McMillen
and Porter are absent. Also in attendance are City Administrator Butch, Councilman
Wood and Planning Director Gallop.
MINUTE APPROVAL
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by 'Commissioner St. Denis, and
unanimously carried, the minutes of the regular meeting of March 17, 1970 were approved
as prepared.
PROPOSED LOPEZ CONTINUATION HIGH SCHOOL
Director Gallop directed the Commission's attention to the Parks
and Recreation Commission minutes of April 6, 1970, and referred to the two motions on
Page 2 regarding:(1) adoption of the site, and (2) the conditions the Parks and
Recreation Commission recommended for consideration if the lease is approved. The pro-
posed indicated on the map, is located adjacent to the south property line and
immediately west of the improved park area, with access to the site from Ash Street west
of the ponding area. The proposed building would consist of 9 prefab units, 10' wide
and 60' long, set on a concrete buttress, and the structure itself is self- contained.
The proposal would be for sewer and water service coming up on the well service road.
Director Gallop advised that during the discussion by the Parks and Recreation
Commission, there were three other alternate sites recommended. One would be immediately
behind the Corporate Yard, which would be quite low and is being used presently by the
City for fill purposes to bring it up to the Corporate Yard grade. The second site was
proposed on Ash Street just above the Baseball Complex, and the third site was immediately
west .of the drainage basin, which is presently in strawberry fields. Both Ash Street. sates,,
4ve..sewer problems as far as connecting to the City sewer system.
COMMISSIONER PORTER ENTERED THE MEETING
Director Gallop pointed out that one of the favorable considerations of the pro-
posed building is that if the building were to remain or to be removed, water and sewer
service would be available, and thepark master plan calls for a permanent sanitary
facility at that location. He advised that the school proposed a five year lease
subject to renewal by both parties, or termination by either party. The recommendations
of the Parks and Recreation Commission to the City Council were that if the lease is
culminated that the following conditions be considered:
1. All utilities to be placed:underground.
2. Existing chain link fence on south property line be extended westerly
on the property used by the school facility, and thence northerly to a
point on the access road...
3. The parking area and access road to be paved with A.C. paving with
adequate base, with a 30' right -of -way measured from the
chain link fence and 24' travel section. Maintenance of parking and
access road to be the responsibility of the School District.
4. Exterior doors be provided to the two restrooms, and an agreement
formulated for the use of said restrooms.
5. Request that the building be reverted to the City upon termination of
the lease, and if this is not possible, then the City to have first
option to negotiate for the purchase of the building, and that any
funds derived from the'lease be placed in an=Encinas Bonitas Park
Development Fund,
6. The lease to be made for not more than fi.ve years, subject to a
reasonable extension upon agreement of both parties or cancellation
by either party.
7. All site improvements other than building to revert to the City upon
termination of the lease, and any structural requirements for the
school not useful to park development be removed by the School District
upon termination of the lease.
8. Any signs or signing of the school be approved by the Parks and Recreation
Commission prior to installation.
Mr. Miles Wimp, Principal of Lopez;,Continuation High School, was present and
explained the reason the school is movin41- E .;. because the present site is inadequate.
The facility consists of only four small two restrooms, encl school
cannot offer the number of courses they wa.,u:l;d =1 iike to because of the limited size
of the faci 1 ity. With regard to the foiir'T,000ble sites,' Mr. Wimp advised that the
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School District faces a problem of development cost and that as far as any area in the
park is concerned, one area is no better than the other except for development costs.
Chairman Moss referred to the General Plan and inquired as to how much of this
40 acres is designed for park development. Councilman Wood stated that the Parks Depart-
ment was given the property on a temporary basis only for park development. He stated
that the City Council has never decided how the land is to be used. They recognize
there are many uses the City is going to need over the years. The basic need is that
of the Corporate Yard on the entire back of the property. The property also provides
our water and drainage, and eventually we will need a training area for our Fire De-
partment. He stated that there is no master plan laid out as to how this land is going
to be used and until such a plan is developed, the Council cannot say how the property
is going to be used.
Chairman Moss asked Director Gallop what his feelings were on the.objection to
the proposed site because it would cut the park in half and hinder further park develop-
ment. Director Gallop said he felt that the park development could continue around the
facility either from the east to the west, or from the baseball complex on the west to
the east. Commissioner Strother stated it appears that if this school building is not
in this particular location, the park could be expanded without any movement of straw-
berry fields, or purchasing of berry crops, and he suggested securing an estimate of
costs and setting up.a feasi.bil.i.ty study on the other suggested..al•ternate'sites. M.r..
Wimp stated they did an estimate of cost on the one site and felt: it would cost around"
$5,000 to develop.
Director Gallop advised : that if finances are ava.i l ab l e and ,the, P.a rks and
Recreation Commission wishes to continue with park development9 be done by
starting at both ends of the 27 acres. He also pointed out that the City is committed
two years on the park development for any foreseeable budget funds for completion
of the baseball complex.
Commissioner Strother stated that he felt this school is doing a fine job for
their students and everyone wants to see the school expand, however, he felt that this
particular area would be the cheapest for the City for "expanding,its park area, and it
was his feeling that another location could be found for.the "facil'ity near or equal to
the cost of the proposed site.
After discussion, on motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner
Combe, and carried, that a recommendation be made to the City .Co•unc i l that the School
District seek a more appropriate location for the Lopez Continuation School.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING CASE NO.: 69 -36 (GOLDEN WEST HOMES', ;INC.)
Director Gallop pointed out that this is the first rezoning for Planned Develop-
ment the City has had in the four years that this District has been on the books, and
that the Subdivision and the zone change must be processed simultaneously according to
the Ordinance requirements. The subdivision has been processed. under both optional
design standards within the Subdivision Ordinance and. the P -D District requirements
of the Zoning Ordinance. The Subdivision Review Board met and the results of their
findings are in .the staff report, dated April 3, 1970, consisting of recommendations
for consideration.
Mr. C. L. Martin, representative of Golden West „Homes,,, Lnc.,1 Developer, was
in the audience, and gave a presentation of the planned development. He advised that
the development is primarily for retirement people from the metropolitan areas, and
these people generally take exceptional pride in thir home
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the. Public Hearing. for Rezoning
Case No. 69 - from RA -B3 to P -D and R -1, had been duly published and property owners
notified, Chairman Moss declared the hearing open.
Mr. Clair Hohensee, 648 Gaynfair Terrace, and Mr. L. Duni 649 Gaynfair
Terrace, stated they were opposed to these small'homes being built adjacent to their
own. Mr. Jack Johnson, 998 Magnolia Drive, inquired as to the restriction of the 45
year old age limit on purchasers, as well as the 16 year, old age limit restriction
on children, stating this was discriminatory. Mr. Martin advised anyone who buys a
house, buys it subject to restrictions and covenants, and that these covenants and
restrictions are recorded. Director Gallop advised that Federal discrimination laws
apply to color, race and religion and that discrimination as., far .as age is concerned
is perfectly legal.
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. ,Mr. McCarthy, 1012 Magnolia, stated he felt a specific age group such as this
could make school bonds, etc. double for that section of the City. Director Gallop
advised that the school bond election is throughout the whole district and not within
any one recognized area.
Regarding some discussion on traffic problems in that area, it was pointed out
that Magnolia is the only street that will enter from the east side of the development,
and exits will be on Elm Street and also on The Pike. Director Gallop advised that the
main entrance to the development is off of The Pike.
Director Gallop pointed out that whether this subdivision goes in or some other
subdivision, this property is going to be developed some day and the next developer may
build a spec. house, and ask that Sycamore be continued into the tract, and it would be
difficult to deny it under a conventional subdivision. Commissioner Strother advised
that this is a planned development,. not just an ordinary subdivision.
Director Gallop explained some of the conditions of the planned development,
such as a park of one acre in size and deeded to the city; all utilities are to be
placed underground; they will be required to put in curbs, gutters and sidewalks, and
street lights, and that the only real basic difference is that there are more homes
per acre.
Mr. Johnson inquired about the variance on the one car garage, Director Gallop
explained that not all houses will have one car garages; some will have two car garages,
but in every case there will he room to park at least two vehicles off the street. For
the :.benefit of 'the audience, Commissioner Strother read a list of the conditions pro- '
posed by -the Subdivision Committee.
Mr. Bob Gulart, Valley Gardens Tract, asked if this tract: would be built com-
pletely and then sold. Director Gallop advised that the tract will not be built as
a tract of houses and then sold; that they are sold and then built.
Mr. Jack Green, 670 Elm Street, asked for some clarification as to what is
going to be done on Stevens Street. Director Gallop advised they had tried to reach
Mr. Green several times this week to see what he had in mind regarding the development
of his property, which is, located adjacent to this proposed deadend street. Mr. Martin
advised he would rather not have through streets in the tract because this would create
an undesirable traffic pattern for the tract, and the reason they drew that street into
a deadend was to provide one more lot for building, but he had no objection to a
cul -de -sac.
Commissioner St. Denis advised that he, Commissioner Strother and Director Gallop
went to Watsonville to review a similar development and they spent quite a bit of time
looking at the homes that were in the stages of being built, and also some that have been
lived in for about a year. They found the homes very well kept up, and he felt they were
a nice addition to the community. Commissioner Strother stated that when ,he looked at
the tract, in Watsonville, this convinced him that it would be something that would'serve
a purpose and would not be detrimental to, this City, and would probably bring in some
good useful citizens. He felt that if we are going to build a city we have got to have
houses that do not cost $25,000 or $30,000, and also we have got to be sure that.these
houses are well built,and good looking. He pointed out that people at the retirement
age generally want . a small place so they are not tied down, and that with the trees
being planted by. the City, and with the park area, and getting in a class of people
will take care of their homes, he.felt this would be a satisfactory subdivision.
Chairman Moss stated that, in his opinion, with regard to the Zoning Ordinance
and the Subdivision Ordinance, he did not think this Commission could approve the.sub-
division because under the P -D District it states that single family developments of
less than 10,000 square feet can be reduced provided the area of reduction is devoted
to common area, open space, green belt or other recreational uses. The Subdivision
Ordinance states "As an incentive to creating better overall communities, the Planning
Commission may authorize deviations of up to 75% reduction in lot size but with no
increase in density in the overall development." With regard to setbacks, it states
building setbacks shall be required at least as great as the applicable requirements.
Chairman Moss stated that, with the two Ordinances combined, he did not see how this
could be approved at this time unless the Ordinance is changed.
Director Gallop advised that the Planning Commission can make and recommend any
variance to any requirement within the Subdivision Ordinance. The P -D District has
two sections. The first section pertains to the development of a P - D District, if it
is zoned prior to - development. If a developer comes in and submits a map, then the
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second section of the P -D District takes over and not the first section, and variances
may be granted by the Commission. There are provisions for the Commission or the
Planning Director to require mandatory front yard staggered setbacks. The one area
where there is a question, it was pointed out that this has a potentially higher density
than R -1, but not more than R -2. We are talking about people per acre rather than
households per acre.
Chairman Moss stated he felt it is this Commission's duty to uphold the City's
ordinances.
Director Gallop advised that the public hearing is on the Zone Change to the P -D
District and that in approving the Zone Change, you approve the planned development plans.
No further discussion for or against the proposed Zone Change, Chairman Moss declared the
hearing closed.
With regard to Page 3 of the Subdivision Committee Review Board's recommendations
dated April 3, 1970, the following action was taken:
Page 3, Para, 2
The majority of the Commission agreed to the 40' .jots.
Page 3, Para, 3
52' sidewalks was corrected to 5' sidewalks.
Page 3, Conditions for Commission Consideration
Item 1 - The Commission was in general agreement to the cul -de -sac as
shown on the map overlay for the west end of Steven Court,
Item 2 - The Commission was in agreement that Gregory Lane be extended
through to Elm Street, providing the City Engineer feels it is
safe,
Director Gallop advised that with Gregory Lane being extended'
through to Elm Street, the condition for the 4' wall and
pedestrian walkway would be eliminated, however, if it is
determined that Gregory Lane did not extend through to Elm
Street, the requirements of the wall and walk should be
required.
With regard to the Variances listed in the last paragraph on Page 3, Director
Gallop advised that in view of the fact that this Ordinance was drawn up - over four
years ago and has not been amended, and because of the many changes in housing costs
and development methods, these variances would be in order. He advised that this
Commission and the City Council has a right to vary any conditions within any of
these Ordinances if, in the approval, they feel that the ultimate development is to
the benefit of the area and the City, and may also make any requirements they feel
are necessary. Chairman Moss maintained that the Commission has to go by the Zoning
Ordinance.
There was some discussion as to whether the Subdivision Ordinance, which re-
quired a 2/3 vote of the Commission, or the Zoning Ordinance requiring a majority
vote of the Commission for approval was required. The Planning Director pointed out
that this was a Rezoning hearing and, therefore, a majority of the Commission would
be required, or four affirmative votes.
After discussion, the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 70 -1.60 z•
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner St. Denis, and
by the following roll call vote; to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Porter, St. Denis and Strother
NOES: Commissioners Combe and Moss
ABSENT: Commissioners Kane and McMillen
the foregoing Resolution was defeated this 7th day of April, 1970.
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A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF ARROYOGRANDE PLANNING COMMISSION' ":
- RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL AN AMENDMENT TO THE MUNICIPAL
CODE OF THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDEAS PROVIDED BY CHAPTER 4
ZONING, ARTICLE 21, OF SAID CODE; •
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Mr. Martin was advised by the Chairman of his right to appeal, the decision to
the City. Council within ten days:
PUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED STREET NAME CHANGE — VALLEY ROAD, FROM TRAFFIC WAY WESTERLY
OF VALLEY ROAD HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS. TO "FAIR OAKS AVENUE"
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the Public Hearing for the proposed
street name change had been duly advertised and property owners notified, Chairman Moss
declared the hearingo'pen.
Director Gallop advised that this proposed street name change is recommended
based on the extension of Fair Oaks Avenue across the creek into an intersection with
Valley Road, and has been proposed to be changed to Fair. Oaks Avenue when the road is
completed. The change would not affect that portion of the road south of the 90 turn
by the High School, and will not affect the house numbers.
No discussion for or against the proposed street name change, Chairman Moss
declared the hearing closed, and the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO, 70-161
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING CHANGING . THE NAME. OF
VALLEY ROAD FROM TRAFFIC WAY WESTERLY TO THE VALLEY
ROAD HIGH SCHOOL CAMPUS, TO "FAIR OAKS AVENUE "., UPON
COMPLETION OF THE EXTENSION OF FAIR:. OAKS,•AVENUE,..
On motion of Commissioner St, Denis, .seconded, by:.Commissioner Combe, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Combe, Porter St :Denis, Strother and Moss
NOES: None
ABSENT: :Commissioners Kane and McMillen
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day .of`.` April,
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PUBLIC HEARING PROPOSAL TO.NAME THE UN-NAMED STREES'.I,N THE ; HI LLI KER AND WOODBURY
TRACT OFF OF TALLY HO; , ROAD:
The Chairman combined .the,three public heariings to name th un -named streets
within the City of Arroyo. Grande off :of, .;Tally ,.Ho Roa'd,
Upon being assured byDi Gallop that the Public Hearings for. the pro-
posal to name the un named streets' off of Tally Ho Road , the 'Hi l l i ker and,
Woodbury Tract had been duly advertisecrand,_property owners notified, Chairman Moss
declared the hearing open,.
Director Gallop advised that these three streets are all paper streets and
they are traveled ways. .' They are not part of theCity street system but they are
used as public roads and they have never been named so far as he could determine,
however, the names "James _Way" .and ; "Canyon ,'Lane" have been used on two �f. the • st.reets
for a number of years.; He also advised that no written comments or telephone calls .
had been received on any of the proposed names,
Jean Frisby, .'res;i dent of , Canyon Lane;, the reason for changing
"Lane" to "Way ", Director Ga1 lop advised , that, according: to the Ordinance on the
suffix on streets, ",Lane" runs north and south, and "Way" runs east and west,
Director Gallop advised that there have been 7 lot 'spills i in this area, two
building permits issued, and several more :in 'the .planning stages and, therefore, the
streets should have proper identification.,
No further discussion for.or a:gainst.':the pr.oposetLstreet. naming, Chairman
Moss declared the hearings closed, .and the fo'l lowing,act.ion was ,taken:
RESOLUTION NO., -70 -162, '
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE-CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE' RECOMMENDING ;,T,HAT ;THE UN. NAMED STREET
RUNNING WESTERLY HOFF OF' TALLY. HO ROAD , BETWEEN. : 'LOTS.. jL
AND 15 OF THE HILLKER AND WOODBURY TRACT BE OFfl CIALLY
NAMED "JAMES .WAY "',
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On motion of Commissioner Combe, seconded by Commissioner Strother, and by the
following roll call vote, to wit:
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of April, 1970,
AYES: Commissioners Combe, Porter, St. Denis, Strother and Moss
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Kane and McMillen
RESOLUTION NO, 70 -163
A, RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING THAT THE UN -NAMED STREET
RUNNING WESTERLY OFF OF TALLY HO ROAD BETWEEN LOTS 16
AND 17 OF THE HILLIKER AND WOODBURY TRACT BE OFFICIALLY
NAMED "CANYON WAY"
On motion ,of Commissioner Porter, seconded by Commissioner St. Denis, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Combe, Porter, St. Denis, Strother and Moss
NOES:. None
ABSENT: Commissioners Kane and McMillen
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of April, 1970,
RESOLUTION NO. 70 -164
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY'OF
ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING THAT THE UN -NAMED STREET
EASTERLY OF LOT 6 IN THE HILLIKER AND WOODBURY.TRACT
WHICH RUNS WESTERLY OFF OF TALLY HO ROAD'.BE OFFICIALLY
NAMED "RIDGEVIEW WAY"
On motion of Commissioner. Combe, seconded by Commissioner St. Denis, and by
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES Commissioners Combe, Porter, St Denis, Strother and Moss
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Kane and McMillen
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 7th day of, April
REVIEW OF PRESENT REQUIREMENTS FOR 'HOUSE. MOVING , W ITHIN THE,. CITY
Gallop advised that this matter had been referred to the Planning
Commission by the City Council, At the present time .. there are no regulations other
than the house must first be inspected and found to either meet the code or be .
brought to code. This request is a result of the recent moving of a house within
the City and, upon inspection, it was found to be close to code and could be brought
to code. There can be problems in house moving, not because the house is substandard,
but because of moving the house into a particular neighborhood. He advised that many
cities require a house moving permit and some require that -a lot be posted to
moving a house in, indicating where the house is being moved from and where it is
being moved to. He pointed out that we don't have too many of these cases; maybe
one every 4 or 5 years.
Director Gallop was requested to draw up some requirements for the Commission
to review.
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further - business. before the.meeting was
adjourned at 10 :30 p.m.
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