PC Minutes 1969-12-02Planning Commission
Arroyo Grande, California
December 2, 1969
The Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman Moss presiding.
Present are Commissioners Bowles, McMillen, Porter and Strother. Commissioners St. Denis
and Sawyer are absent. Also in attendance are City Administrator Butch, Councilman
Talley and Planning Director Gallop.
MINUTE APPROVAL
On motion of Commissioner Bowles, seconded by Commissioner McMillen, and unanimously
carried, the minutes of the regular meeting of November 4, 1969 were approved as prepared.
DISPOSITION OF SURPLUS PROPERTY ON BRANCH STREET
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner Porter, and unanimously
carried, that the disposition of surplus property on Branch Street adjacent to Certified
Freight Lines, be considered by the Commission as a non - agenda item.
Director Gallop advised that the property presently occupied by Certified Freight
Lines is in the process of being transferred and a small triangular portion of the old
Branch Street right of way, prior to the Division of Highways realignment, is now behind
the new right -of -way line and should become part of the abutting private property.
Inasmuch as this is a public right -of -way, the Commission must recommend to Council that
if it is not necessary for City right -of -way purposes, it could be disposed of by City
Council action.
The owners of the trucking company are asking that they be permitted to acquire
this property from the City.
COMMISSIONER ST. DENIS ENTERED THE MEETING
After discussion, on motion of Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Commissioner
Strother, and unanimously carried, that a recommendation be made to the City Council that .
the subject property be disposed of to the abutting property owner.
PROPOSED LOPEZ DEVELOPMENT
Director Gallop advised that on Monday morning he had received a notice from the
County Planning Commission regarding a public hearing to be held on Wednesday, December
10th on a Use Permit for residential, commercial development adjacent to the Lopez
Reservoir District 3 property line. A corporation in Los Angeles filed fora Use Permit•+
for approval of a general development plan as indicated on the map presented, which
includes a commercial development area, mobile home sites, travel trailer park, building
sites through subdivision development, another commercial area including a restaurant
and a lodge.
The developers propose access into the lake for public use of the people within
this development, as well as the general public. Director Gallop . advised that a Sub-
division Committee review of the proposal was held this morning in the County Planning
Office and that each of the various departments and cities affected were asked to express
their feelings. The proposal plans a total of 847 dwelling units including trailer and
building sites. There are a total of 671 acres in the ownership, with a total of 233.9
acres to be developed. The property is zoned L -D, or Recreational Design Control. The
developers are proposing a year around recreational oriented community with permanent
and temporary housing facilities. The developers are requesting approval of the concept
only, at this time.
The developers have requested access to the lake and have agreed, providing the
Zone 3 Board would accept, to collect all fees, police the gate and facilities used by
the people. They have proposed a septic tank system which was rejected by the Health
Department and, if the units are approved, they will be required to put in a complete
sanitary system. They have requested deep wells. Both Mr. Drawn and Mr. Gallop objected
to this because they feel that Zone 3 has paid for the maintenance of this underground
water table and that the developers should contract with one of the agencies for water.
The developer indicated a willingness to negotiate, and also a willingness to annex to
Zone 3. Mr. Born's office basically is objecting to the development on the basis of
water, and sanitation problems, overflow into the lake, and traffic problems. The Road
Department did not object but specified that no grade in excess of 15% would be permitted,
and they are skeptical as to whether these roads could be put in this area with a 15%
grade or less. Chairman Moss requested that discussion on this matter be delayed until
after the Public Hearings.
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Director Gallop described the property on the north side of the street where old
Branch Street curved around, is a triangular shape and consists of ends of lots. He
pointed out that if the property is not acquired, it will be a hinderance to the developer.
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PUBLIC HEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO. 69 -153 JIFFY FOOD STORES - NE COR. OF
REMOTE CONTROL,GAS.OLI
. AND GRAND AVENUE
NE UNITS
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Director Gallop advised that the application is for two remote control gasoline
pumps to be controlled from the interior of the proposed market structure, and referred
to a list of safety precautions and regulations which the employees are required to abide
by.
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that public hearing for Use Permit Case No.
69-153, Jiffy Food Stores, Remote Control Gasoline Units, NE corner of Courtland and
Grand Avenue, had been duly published, posted and property owners notified, Chairman Moss
declared the hearing open.
Director Gallop advised that one letter had been received from Mr. Lawrence Young,
a property owner in the area, and Mr. Young expressed no objection to the use.
Mr. Warner, representing Jiffy Food Stores, was present and spoke in favor of the
Use Permit being granted. He presented a rendering of the proposed building, advising
that the gasoline pumps would be located in the front, that this is a convenience type o
operation for the public, and that the gasoline service system has been approved by the
National Fire Protection Association.
No .further discussion for or against the proposed Use Permit, Chairman Moss
declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner McMillen pointed out that, in his opinion, dispensing gasoline should
be done by trained personnel only, because of the hazards involved, and he felt the
general public is not qualified to dispense gasoline. Mr. Warner stated his company felt
this type of system is safer than a gas station, in that the customer has to hold the
handle all of the time while pumping gas, whereas a service station attendant can put the
hose in the tank and leave it there while checking the oil and washing windows.
Commissioner McMillen moved that the Use Permit for remote control gasoline units
be denied. Motion lost for lack of a second.
After discussion, the .Commission felt they did not have enough information to make
a decision at this time. On motion of Commissioner St. Denis, seconded by Commissioner
Porter, and unanimously carried, that Use Permit Case No. 69 -153 be tabled until the
next meeting of December 16, 1969 so that more information could be obtained and studied
by the Commission.
PUBLIC HEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO, 69 -154, JIFFY FOOD STORES - NE CORNER OF COURTLAND
AND GRAND AVE. — FREE STANDING SIGN
Director Gallop advised that the sign as proposed would be 5° by 6 °, or 30 sq.
ft, each face, and would be interior lighted, non - flashing and non - rotating. The plans
indicate that the electrical service and the time switch will be installed underground.
The plot plan also indicates the sign to be located within a planter area approximately
5' deep and 20' long adjacent to the public sidewalk.
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the Public Hearing for Use Permit
Case No. 69 -154, Jiffy Food Stores - NE Corner of Courtland and Grand Ave. to allow
for a free standing sign had been duly published, posted and property owners notified,
Chairman Moss declared the hearing open.
As there was no discussion for or against the proposed Use Permit, Chairman
Moss declared the hearing closed.
RESOLUTION NO. 69 - 142 U
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT, CASE NO. 69 -154
On motion of Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Commissioner St. Denis, and on
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Bowles, McMillen, Porter, St. Denis, Strother and
Moss
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Sawyer
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 2nd day of December, 1969.
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PUBLIC HEARING - USE PERMIT CASE,NO. 69-155 - CENTRAL COAST AMBULANCE SERVICE. 321 HALCYON
Director Gallop advised that the petitioner is requesting relocation of the Central
Coast Ambulance Service from the present location at 236 So. Halcyon Road down closer to
the hospital at 321 S. Halcyon, which would still be in the P -C District. The house to be
used sets back quite a distance from the street and does have a carport and garage where
the ambulances could be kept under cover, and he sees no problem with the relocation.
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the Public Hearing for Use Permit Case
No. 69 -155, Central Coast Ambulance Service, 321 Halcyon Road had been duly published,
posted and property owners notified, Chairman Moss declared the hearing open.
Mr. Leslie Ringo, of Central Coast Ambulance Service, was present and spoke in
favor of the Use Permit being granted, stating the relocation would be to the advantage
of the people in the community, as well as himself, giving him more room and the
ambulances would be kept under cover.
No further discussion for or against the proposed Use Permit, Chairman Moss
declared.the hearing closed.
RESOLUTION NO. 69 -143
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT, CASE NO. 69 -155
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner McMillen, and on the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Bowles, McMillen, Porter, St. Denis, Strother and Moss
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Sawyer
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 2nd day of December 1969.
PUBLIC HEARING - RENAMING OF A PORTION OR PORTIONS OF CAROL PLACE AND CARMELLA DRIVE
Director Gallop advised that Carmella Drive has both a north -south and east -west
section, wh,ich.is in, conflict with proper identification of properties, particularly
insofar as emergency services are concerned, and because of the number of undeveloped
lots in the subdivision, it appears that construction will take place in the very near
future to develop this area, and the problem should be resolved now. The reason
"Circle" was suggested is that the streets, as built, are unlikely to be extended into
adjacent properties or any other streets, and if "Circle" is adopted as the suffix,
there would be only four house numbers that would have to be changed.
Director Gallop stated that letters had been received from four property owners,
indicating they had no objection to the change, or had no preference as to the name.
A.letter was received from Mr. David J. Sieperman, 508 Carol Place, objecting to the
change to "Circle ", with two notes following regarding house numbering.
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the affected property owners had
been informed of a Public Hearing for renaming a portion or portions of Carol Place
and Carmella Drive, Chairman Moss declared the hearing open.
II/ Mrs. Tallman, 532 Carol Place, stated that she and other residents of the area
objected to the name change in that it would entail considerable changes for the
residents,and she felt the name change would also create a hardship in locating the
properties. Director Gallop pointed out the purpose of the name change is not to
cause confusion, but to resolve the problem now before the area fully develops and
in the hopes that some day it will perhaps save property or life.
Mr. Leslie Ringo, Central Coast Ambulance Service, stated he was in agreement
with the change to avoid confusion.
No further discussion for or against the proposed change, Chairman Moss
declared the hearing closed.
RESOLUTION NO. 69 -144
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE RECOMMENDING CHANGING THE NAMES OF
CAROL PLACE AND CARMELLA DRIVE IN THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE
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On motion of Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Commissioner Bowles, and on the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Bowles, McMillen, Porter, St. Denis, Strother and Moss
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Sawyer
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 2nd day of December, 1969.
CONTINUED DISCUSSION ON PROPOSED LOPEZ DEVELOPMENT
Director Gallop stated he believed a development such as this could be advantageous
to the area. He also pointed out that the development of the commercial area without the
proposed residential development has a potential of damaging the concessionaires within
the recreational area and also the merchants on Branch Street.
He pointed out that there is some large acreage beyond this area on the right hand
side of the road that is an unclassified zone at this time, and this could possibly be
open to quite an extensive development.
After discussion, on motion of Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Commissioner
Strother, and unanimously carried, that a recommendation be made to the County Planning
Commission that the matter be tabled until the three contracting agencies and th'e Zone
3 Advisory Committee have had a chance to study the proposal and make recommendations.
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner Porter, and unanimously
carried, that a recommendation be made to the City Council to take similar action.
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner McMillen, and
unanimously carried, that a recommendation be made to the County Planning Commission that
they consider the matter of zoning the unclassified area around Lopez Lake.
AJDOURNMENT
On motion of Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Commissioner Bowles, and
unanimously carried, the meeting was adjourned at 8 :55 p.m.
ATTEST: 21
Secretary
Chairman