PC Minutes 1969-08-191
Planning Commission
Arroyo Grande, California
August 19, 1969
The Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman Moss presiding.
Present are Commissioners Bowles, McMillen and Strother. Commissioners Porter,
St. Denis and Sawyer are absent. Also in attendance are City Administrator Butch and
Planning Director Gallop.
COMMISSIONER ST. DENIS ENTERED THE MEETING
MINUTE APPROVAL
On motion of Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Commissioner Strother, and
unanimously carried, the minutes of the regular meeting of August 5, 1969 were approved
as prepared.
REPORT FROM COMMITTEE ON BILLBOARDS
Commissioner McMillen reported that i-i and Commissioner Bowles met with the
Ryan Outdoor Advertising Co. representatives, which resulted in the following determi-
nations:
a. The Sign Ordinance does permit ground or billboard signs in the P -M District .
within the City of Arroyo Grande through Use Permit procedure. This finding
has been cleared with the City Attorney, and agrees with Ryan Sign Co.
recommendations.
b. By using the above determination, plus the fact that the Freeway Beautification
Act would prohibit installation of billboards within any of the existing Freeway
Service Districts and a considerable amount of the Highway Service Districts,
would limit available areas for billboard installation to Grand Avenue and Branch
Street.
c. There are now existing three P -M Districts on Grand Avenue and one on Branch
Street in which Ryan could file for a Use Permit to erect ground signs subject
to Commission approval.
d. The Committee also advised that Ryan Advertising Company has had, and admits
to, knowledge of this sign ordinance from its adoption by the City Council,
and also that Mr. Harris of Sambo's Restaurant was not informed of the non-
conformance status of the sign which he contracted from Mr. Doko.
After discussion, on motion of Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Commissioner
Bowles, ,and unanimously carried, that a recommendation be made to the City Council
that they require the immediate removal of the 4 signs owned by Ryan Outdoor Adver-
tising Co., and that a.one.year extension be granted to Mr. Harris of Sambo's
Restaurant for the removal of the sign on Mr. Doko's property because he was not
notified of the non - conforming status and because the property owner is out of town,
and that the Sign Ordinance and Zoning Ordinance permit billboards in the P-M District
under normal Use Permit procedure in the City of Arroyo Grande, and is agreed to by all
parties concerned.
UNDERGROUNDING,UTILITIES
Director Gallop advised that this morning he received quite a lengthy document
from the Public-Utilities Commission pertaining to the extension of undergrounding
utilities within streets being rebuilt:, such as is being proposed on Branch Street.
He was unable to study the document in great: detail, however it appeared that the
P.U.C, is recommending that the utility companies bear the full burden of these costs.
In.the briefs filed.by P.G.£ E., Southern Cal. Edison, and San Diego Gas and Electric,
they all point out the fact that this is probably a financial impossibility. In talk-
ing to Mr. Richmond, representative of P.G. & E., he advised they .recommend that when
such„.a street js requiredto,.go underground, an,inc.rease in rate would be.applied •to
that area that would benefi the undergroundi:ng.
Mr. Richmond was present and advised that one alternative would be what is
referred to as a sur- charge rate, and explained that financially it is not the most
desirable thing to do because it continues indefinitely as the costs are never re-
covered, and this is why an Assessment District is a more beneficial method of
accomplishing this; it does not go on and on, and is a much simpler,method of doing .
business,. for the customers as well as the company. He advised his company does
not recommend the sur - charge rate, and that. the Assessment District has been, and
continues to be, the most feasible method of accomplishing this.
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Director Gallop pointed out that the City Council has already taken action on this
matter and have recommended to the Public Utilities Commission that the proposed ruling
be adopted. No action was taken by the Commission.
USE PERMIT CASE NO. 69 -145, MOBILE HOME PARK, HUASNA ROAD (WICAL)
Director Gallop referred to the staff report given to the Commission with the Agenda
and advised there is one additional requirement which should be included in the staff
report as follows: That the park be developed in accordance with the plans on file,
and that the number of spaces indicated may be reduced but not increased. He stated .
the designer indicated Dr. Wical might increase the size of some of the spaces to
accommodate larger trailer units.
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the Public Hearing for Use Permit Case No.
69 -145, Mobile Home Park on Huasna Road, had been duly published, posted and property
owners notified, Chairman Moss declared the hearing open.
Dr. Wical was present and advised the only change in the original plan would be
the possible reduction of spaces to accommodate the wider trailer units.
Director Gallop pointed out to the Commission that if any major change is made
in the plans during construction, the developer would have to come back to this
Commission for approval before the State could grant permission for the change.
No further discussion for or against the proposed Use Permit, Chairman Moss
declared the hearing closed.
Commissioner Strother questioned No. 2 of the staff recommendations, wherein
the Planning Director recommended granting a 10' variance of the required 15' setback
along the Huasna Road frontage. Chairman Moss indicated he was in favor of keeping
the 15' setback, since all of the residents on that street will be required to deed
30' of property for right of way purposes based on the Plan Line.
Director Gallop stated that in view of the demand of 30' of the property for
right -of -way purposes, he felt it a reasonable request to vary this front yard set-
back to 5'.
After discussion, the following action was taken:
On motion of Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Commissioner St. Denis, and on
the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
RESOLUTION NO, 69 -133 U
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT,
CASE NO. 69 -145.
Commissioners Bowles, McMillen and St. Denis
Commissioners Strother and Moss
Commissioners Porter and Sawyer
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 19th day of August, 1969.
PUBLIC HEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO, 69 - 146, TRIPLEX, 1185, 1193 and 1199 LINDA DRIVE
Director Gallop pointed out that there is a 10 to 12' grade differential between
B Lot and Brisco Road, and that by design, the garages are under one of the units to
accommodate this differential in the grade. He also advised that the structure
would not violate the view control of the Zoning Ordinance and, in his opinion, the
proposed structure makes a very good use of the property.
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the Public Hearing for Use Permit
Case No. 69 -146, Triplex at 1185, 1193 and 1199 Linda Drive had been duly published,
posted and property owners notified, Chairman Moss declared the hearing open.
Mr. Baird McNeil was present and stated he is a partner in the development, and
had no comment other than to answer any questions the Commission might have. Mr.
Fred Marks, a resident of Linda Drive, was present and stated his home is directly
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Chairman Moss, that the Resolution
be amended by striking out Item No. 2 of the staff recommendations. Motion lost with
three "no" votes.
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across from the proposed Triplex, and that he is in favor of. the Use Permit being granted.
No further discussion for or against the proposed Use Permit, Chairman Moss declared
the hearing closed, and the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 69 -134 U
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner Bowles, and on the
following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Bowles, McMillen, St. Denis, Strother and Moss
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Porter and Sawyer
II the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 19th day of August, 1969.
CHANNEL COUNTIES DIVISION LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES •UARTERLY.MEETING
Director Gallop advised the Channel Counties Division League of California Cities
Quarterly Meeting will be held at the Los Robles Inn in the City of Thousand Oaks on
Saturday, September 13th. He requested anyone wishing to attend the meeting to notify
Mrs. Miller, City Clerk, before the 22nd of August. Administrator Butch advised one,
of the topics of the meeting would be the recent legislation affecting cities, and
possibly a discussion on personnel.
MEMO FROM COASTAL - VALLEY PLANNING COULCIL RE: "LOUDEN" ZONE CHANGE - OCEANO.
Director Gallop advised that the Coastal Valley Planning Council, met last night and
considered the "Louden" Zone Change Request in Oceano. They recommended that the Mobile
Home Park, located at 23rd and Paso Robles Street in Oceano, be rezoned from A -,1 and.
R -2 to R -3 with the "D" Design designation attached to the Zone Change, and the con
dition that the area be restricted for Mobile Home Park use. A motion was adopted to
recommend to the Arroyo Grande Planning Commission and the Grover City Planning
Commission that they go on record with the County Planning Commission that they have
no objection to the Zone Change with the "D" Design designation attached to the Zone
Change, and the condition that the area be restricted for Mobile Home Park Use,
On motion of Commissioner Bowles, seconded by Commissioner McMillen, and
unanimously carried,,.tp go on record with the County Planning Commission that they
woul d have no objection, to the Zone, Change on the "Louden" Requesa . i,n, ; Oceno $ ,. from(
A -1 and R -2, to R -3 with the "D" Design designation attached.,to the , Zone, Change, and
the condition that the, area. be restricted for Mobile Home Park use
DRAINAGE PROBLEM ON GRAND AVENUE
Chairman Moss inquired as to the lack of curbs on the property next to the ..
Hancock Station on Grand Avenue. Director Gallop reported that the property in
question and the property directly across the street from Juniper Street to Williams
Brothers Market has been set up in a 1911 Act Assessment District, requiring curb,
gutter and sidewalks. Administrator Butch advised the Public Hearing on. the District,
has been set for September 10th.
CABLE TV ,
!After .a .brief discussion on the unsatisfactory service of cableteleviisi;on,;on''
motion of, Commissioner McMillen, seconded by Chairman Moss, and unanimously carried,
that a recommendation be made to the City Council to take corrective action'with
regard to the unsatisfactory Cable Television service.
ADJOURNMENT
There, being no further business, Chairman Moss:; declared the meeting adjourned
at 8 :10 p.m.
ATTEST:
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING A USE PERMIT,
CASE NO, 69 -146.
Chairman
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