PC Minutes 1968-05-20Planning Commission
Arroyo Grande., California
May 20, 1968
The Planning Commission met in special session with Chairman McMillen presid-
ing. Present are Commissioners Moss, Porter, Sawyer and Strother. Two vacancies
exist on the Commission. Also in attendance are Administrator Butch and Planning
Director Gallop
Chairman McMillen welcomed the audience and thanked them for their interest
in the new proposed zoning map, stating the Commission had been working on a new
zoning map for quite some time which, they believed, would be better for the City,
better for the orderly growth of the City, and better for the taxpayer. Chairman
McMillen advised that anyone wanting to speak would have a time limit of three
minutes, and requested that all questions be addressed to the chair. Chairman
McMillen asked Director Gallop to explain the new legend, districts and zones as
compared to the old zones.
In answer to Mrs. Elaine Garey's question as to whether the Commission intends
to accept the zoning map tonight, Director Gallop advised that under the State Law
and under the City Ordinances., when the present ordinance is amended or changed, the
Planning Commission must hold one hearing. This hearing may be continued from time
to time as long as the Commission feels is necessary. After the hearings are held
and everyone has had an opportunity to be heard, the Planning Commission will take
into consideration all requests and recommendations and in each case make .a
decision whether to accept or deny such requests, after any changes or amendments
are adopted, a Resolution accepting the proposed Ordinance and a recommendation
is made to the City Council. Then the Council must hold a Public Hearing, after,
which the Ordinance and map may be adopted, and 30 days after the second reading
would be the effective date of that Ordinance.
;JPUBLIC HEARING - PROPOSED ZONING ORDINANCE AND MAP
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the Public Hearing for the Pro -
;posed Zoning Ordinance and Map had been duly posted and published, Chairman
.McMillen declared the hearing open.
Mr. Tony Abrate stated he lived at 168 Tally Ho Road and owned almost a full
acre. He stated the property was approximately 36,000 square feet and is deep,
and about the only thing it is really good for is keeping livestock, and asked
the Commission to make this an RA -B3 District rather than RA -B1. He stated there
were a lot of people here tonight that live there and that do have livestock
there now.
Mrs. Elaine Garey read a letter to the Planning Commission from Mr. Art
Garey, dated May 20, 1968, requesting that his property at 124 West Branch.
Street be included in the CBD District instead of the proposed F -S, and he
also felt that Branch and Grand Avenue should be zoned for Commercial use from
E. C. Loomis down to Highway 1. He also questioned the advisability of using
the F -S classification on Grand Avenue from the freeway to Giant Food Store,
in that it was too restrictive.
Mr. Lee Lovett was present and stated he had three pieces of property he
would like to talk about. He stated he would like to discuss property which is
just off of Grand Avenue now an R -3 Zone, a part of Ledo Heights, and the pro-
posed change to R -2. He stated, in his opinion, this would create a hardship
for the owners of this property for obvious reasons, because these lots are
much larger than the average R -2 lots and they are taxed accordingly. He
advised the assessor appraises these lots according to his assessments, around
$9,000.00, and the average R -2 lot in the City will bring about $3,500.00 and
are taxed from $50.00 to $75.00, and the lots in Ledo Heights are taxed approxi-
mately $175.00 per lot. This property abuts a C -1 Zone and is being changed to
C -N, and he could see no reason the adjoining property could not remain C -1, and
felt this would prove to be a hardship as far as zoning is concerned, and that
some privilege might be taken from the C -1 Zone by the change. He stated that
some uses that were allowed before might have to go to a Variance and everyone .
knew it couldn't be guaranteed. He stated that if he was right, that some
privileges might be taken away, he felt this might create a hardship they
didn't have before.
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Another piece of property he wanted to discuss was on Halcyon Road adjoining
Willow Park Tract. This is a large lot, 70' x 149' on one side and 200' deep.
He stated he had enough square feet at the moment to allow 6 or 7 units in an R -3
Zone, and the Commission is proposing to rezone this to R -1. He stated that this
piece of property was formerly in the County and he had a contract to have a
building erected on this piece of property, but he couldn't get water to it be-
cause it was outside the City, so he proceeded to have it brought into the City
of Arroyo Grande, and along with this he did get a zoning of R -3.. This took six
months and in the meantime, the man that was going to build had moved to Oregon
so the project was never completed. However, this lies at the rear of R -1 property
and it also joins in on the opposite side of a trailer park and, in his opinion,
an R -1 Zoning here would create a situation that probably a home owner would re-
sist in wanting to build on this particular property. It was his recommendation
that the R -3 zoning not be changed and that the other property on Ledo Heights
be kept as R -3.
Mr. Abe Johnson was present and stated he has lived on Tally Ho Road and
that he bought the property in 1942 and has been there for 26 years. He stated
there hasn't been any time in that 26 years that he hasn't owned stock out there.
He would like to see it zoned so it would allow them to keep stock there. He
stated his property was approximately 200' by 90'.
Mr. Neil Willhoit was present and stated he lives on Tally Ho Road and
owned a little less than one acre, and he would like the zoning to be such that
they could keep a few animals.
Mr. Pete Nesbitt was present and stated he lives on Cornwall and questioned
the proposed zoning of Planned Industrial District, and asked how heavy it would
be in back of the cemetary. Chairman McMillen read the uses permitted. Mr.
Nesbitt stated he wouldn't like to see a petroleum plant in there.
Mr. Frank Sullivan was present and stated he lived on Tally Ho Road. He
stated he has lived there since 1949 and has had livestock there and.would like
to have something done to keep a couple of animals there.
Mr. Bob Brazetti stated he lived on Tally Ho Road and that he has a few
goats and some chickens, and would like to keep them there.
Mrs.. Darling stated she would like to keep two horses at the end of Nevada
Street, stating she has an acre and a half that she leases.
Mr.Hook of 242 Garden Street stated he was new in Arroyo Grande but that
he has owned property on Valley Road for some time. He stated that the south
side of Allen Street from Mason to the Freeway Service area was presently R -1,
and suggested it be incorporated in the R -3 District to make it more compatible
as they are facing each other, and this would encourage development of the south
side of Allen Street.
Director Gallop stated that Mr. Nick Gaynos had filed a letter concerning
a narrow 60' strip of property south of, and adjacent to Linda at Brisco Road
and adja to the proposed P -M District which is presently zoned R -1, and
that he is asking it be made P -M as is the abutting property. He stated the
property is 60' wide but several hundred feet long.
Mrs. Yeary from Shell Beach was present and stated they owned some property
at 525. -E. Branch Street, between Branch and Crown Hill,across from where an R -G
District is proposed, and her property is 100 x 150' and she would like to see
this zoned R -G also. She stated she has talked to a few of the property owners
and they all seemed to be satisfied that that is the way it is going to go.
Director Gallop stated that Mrs. Yeary was in his office several days ago and
got the property owners' names on Branch Street to Crown Hill, with the thought
this would be better R -G than R -1. Mrs. Yeary advised she talked to Mr.
Fissori, Mr. Santos and Mr. Addison Wood.
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Mrs. Garey requested an explanation as to why the C -1 was being changed to
H -S, stating that the CBD was closer to C-1. Chairman McMillen stated that the
CBD had not been changed. Mrs. Garey asked which one was closer to the C -1 zone.
Director Gallop explained the proposed H -S is quite similar to the old C -•1 and,
that the CBD is a very restrictive district, and that no drive -in type of
business is permitted and that signs are restricted, and CBD is strictly retail.
H -S is closer to the present C -1 than any of the districts we are proposing
because it is oriented to the drive-in type of business as the ::old .C- 1 was. .
He explained that under Use Permits you may put in light manufacturing in the
C -1 District; in the H -S District this is not a permissive use, either by use
permit or otherwise. He stated that secondhand sales, mortuaries, public utility
buildings and corporate yards were no longer permitted in the H -S District.
Mr. Lovett inquired in the C -N zoning a use permit as such is decided by
whom? Director Gallop answered that the Planning Commission makes the decision
and it doesn't have to go to the Council, but that the Planning Commission denial
or conditions can be appealed to the City Council.
Mrs. Garey asked how much it would cost to file a Use Permit. Director
Gallop stated that under the present ordinance Use Permits are $10.00 and
Variances are $25.00, but that under the new Ordinance - a Use Permit would cost
$25.00 and Variances $50.00. He stated that the City is required, by law, to
put a public ad in the newspaper and to post in each case, and that these fees
are to pay for the cost incurred by the City. He stated that in addition to
posting and newspaper advertising, we also mail notices in individual cases of
request to everyone that owns property within 300 feet, so that everyone is
notified.
On motion of Commissioner Moss, seconded by Commissioner Strother, and
unanimously carried, that the hearing be adjourned to 7:45 p.m.. Tuesday, May
21st.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman McMillen adjourned the meeting 'at 8 :40 p.m.
ATTEST::
Secretary
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