PC Minutes 1968-04-02Planning Commission
Arroyo Grande, California
April 2, 1968
The Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman McMillen
presiding. Present are Commissioners Sawyer, Smith and Strother, Absent are
Commissioners Moss, Porter and Schultz. Also in attendance is City Administrator
Butch, Councilman Levine, Public Works Director Anderson, and Planning Director
Gallop.
MINUTE APPROVAL . .
On motion of Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Sawyer, and
unanimously carried, the minutes of the meeting of 1'9th,1968 were
approved as prepared,
AMERICAN SOCIETY OF PLANNING OFFICIALS CONFERENCE
Due to the absence of three Commission members, no decision was made re-
garding the attendance of the American Society of Planning Officials Conference
being held in San Francisco on May 4th through the 8th.
COMMGSSI.ONER PORTER ENTERED THE MEETING
SLO COUNTY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION MEETING
Director Gallop reminded the Commission of the wrap -up meeting of the
County Development Association In San Luis Obispo on Wednesday evening at
8 :00 in the Cuesta Theater,
LETTER OF RESIGNATION
Chairman McMillen read a letter addressed to the Commission from Orville
Schultz, stating he had submitted a letter of resignation to the City Council.
Chairman McMillen directed Mr. Gallop to write a letter to Mr. Schultz ex-
pressing the Commission's appreciation for the work he has done serving the
community.
CITY COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT
Commissioner Smith stated he had attended the last Council meeting, and
felt the minutes of this meeting were self - explanatory; therefore, an oral
report from him was not necessary.
RENAMING OF THE EXISTING HUASNA ROAD WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS
Administrator Butch advised that the City Council, at their last meeting,
requested the Planning Commission take into consideration a possible Public
Hearing on renaming Huasna Road within the City of Arroyo Grande.
Director Gallop stated this item would be placed on the Agenda for the
next Planning Commission meeting of April 17th, at which time a Public
Hearing date could be set.
PUBLIC HEARING - USE PERMIT CASE NO 68 -121 - 107 BRIDGE STREET JOYCE
Chairman McMillen advised that the Public Hearing was officially opened
at the last meeting. and because of lack of a representative of the petitioner
at that meeting, was continued over to this meeting. Chairman McMillen
declared the hearing re- opened.
Mrs. Joyce was present and spoke in favor of the Use Permit being
granted, stating this was an attractive sign and had won an award. She
stated the sign meets all the specifications required, and believed it would
be a benefit to the community because it lights the area which is quite dark
in the evening.
There were no protests received. No further discussion for or against
the request, Chairman McMillen declared the hearing closed.
Director Gallop stated a memo had been received from the Fire Depart-
ment concerning the accumulation of packing boxes, etc., on the property.
In asnwer to Commissioner Strother's question as to how the sign would
be fastened, Director Gallop Indicated the sign would be mounted on top of
a pole and would have to be approved by the Building Department so far as
stress etc. is concerned before it can be erected.
Planning Commission - April 2, 1968
After a -brief discussion the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION NO. 68 -92 U
On motion of Commissioner Smith, seconded by Commissioner Sawyer,, and
by the following roll call vote, to wit:
AYES: Commissioners Porter, Sawyer, Smith, Strother and McMillen
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Moss and Schultz
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 2nd day of April, 1968.
PUBLIC HEARING- USE PERMIT CASE NO. 68 -123 - 204 SO. HALCYON HAMILTONZ
Upon being assured by Director Gallop that the Public Hearing for Use
Permit Case No. 68 -123, Mercedes Hamilton, to allow for a Beauty Salon at
204 So. Halcyon, in a P -C District, had been duly posted, published and
property owners notified, Chairman McMillen declared the hearing open.
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING USE PERMIT CASE NO:. 68 -121
Mrs.. Hamilton was present and spoke in favor of the Use Permit being
granted. She stated she was renting the property and, with regard to the
requirement that a sidewalk be installed, she didn't think the landlord
would be able to put the sidewalk in at the present time, and asked if the
Commission could give him some time to put this walk in.
Director Gallop advised that this same condition was imposed on another
Use Permit and that they were given a year in which to install the sidewalk.
Director Gallop also noted the petitioner was requesting permission for a
21 x 4' sign, and advised this would be handled administratively under the
new sign ordinance. There were no protests received. No further discussion
for or against the request, Chairman McMillen declared the hearing closed.
Director Gallop also advised that the Fire Department had requested that
no burning be permitted on the premises, and the primary concern was the burn-
ing of hair. Mrs. Hamilton stated she does no burning whatsoever.
After discussion the following action was taken:
RESOLUTION 68-93 U
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF ARROYO GRANDE GRANTING USE
PERMIT CASE Na. 68-123
On motion of Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner Smith., and
by'the following roll .call vote, .to wit:
AYES :. Commissioners Porter, Sawyer, Smith, Strother and McMillen
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Moss and Schultz
the foregoing Resolution was adopted this 2nd day of April 1968.
PROPOSED RETIREMENT UNITS - TRACT 283
Chairman McMillen advised that this discussion was being held for in-
formational purposes only and was not a Public Hearing, and he asked
Director Gallop to, explain the proposal..
Director Gallop stated this was a proposal to utilize 26 of the re-
maining lots on the southerly half, ,a westerly portion, of Tract 283 at the
intersection of Farrell and Elm Streets. He stated at the present time
there are 20 single family homes with 2 bedrooms, 1 bath and single car
garage. He stated he has talked with Central Savings, the people who own
the undeveloped property; he has talked with Mr. Wise -, of Hahn, Wise and
Associates; and City Attorney Shipsey. The people who want to develop this
property intend to request lot splits as noted on the plot layout, which
would create 80 foot lots. They would build what is generally considered
semi - condaminium homes of two single family dwellings with a common wall.
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These houses would be sold with one half as one house with an undivided interest
in an 80' lot. There would be two owners in the house and in the lot. Director
Gallop advised in talking with Mr. Wise that these are used in the Bay Area
quite extensively, and providing the down payment was of a reasonable size and
total cost not over$12,000 or $13,000, the houses were being used as designed
and as intended. The houses will be approximately 900 square feet per unit
and adequate space for three cars; enclosed garage, carport and off street space.
The proposal also provides for 5° side yard set back.
Director Gallop also noted Section 14, Page 372 of the City Ordinance, the
"D" Zone which may be placed upon any district in the City at the Commission's
request. By putting a "D" override zone on the property, you can then require
a development plan being filed with the Commission which must be used by the
developer. The D Zone has been used in a number of cases in order to get
satisfactory controls.. The standards as noted under Sec. 9- 4.1402 include
height, bulk and area of buildings; architectural features, landscaping, light-
ing and other amenities, parking and location of vehicles. These are conditions
the Commission may require. by placing a "D" override on this district and can
be placed without holding a Public Hearing. All that is required is a majority
vote of this Commission. Development plans must be approved by Mr. Anderson,
Director of Public Works, Planning Director, and the Commission. Mr. Gallop
also suggested that if this proposal is considered, there should be a provision
that if any of the lots are not built on, they revert to the original subdivision
lot lines.
Mr. Gallop indicated at present there are no sewers and this should be a
requirement. The developer indicated a willingness to do so. The property
is all improved except for sewers. The utilities are all in and easements
were provided in the original Tract Map, but it would be necessary to require
one additional easement.
Mr. Gallop called attention to a letter received from Mr. David J.
Sieperman,.508 Carol Place, received March 29, 1968. Mr. Siperman was present
and stated he lives in the tract and that some homes have 2 baths and 2 bed -
rooms, and that there are six 3 bedroom homes; they have 1,026 square feet and
are about $12,000 in value. Mrs. Tallman of 532 Carol Place stated the pro-
posed units sounded very small and asked if the 900 square feet included the
carport. Mr. C. L. Martin, of McAbrey and Martin Co., stated the units con-
tained 815 feet of living space per unit, which doubled, would be 2400 square
feet, including the carport and garage, under roof for one structure..
Mr. B. J. Meade, 517 Carol Place, stated before they moved here, they
looked the property over and liked it very well. They looked at the 26 lots
and it looked like a continuation of what was started and that was their
object in buying the property. He stated if this change is made, it isn't
what they were looking for.
Mr. Martin introduced Mr. Robinson, of Earco Co.., Carlsbad, California,
stating he had built 800 of these units within the last 5 years. Mr. Robinson
advised they had 20 years experience in this operation; they do this exclusively
and have for the last 5 years. Mr. Robinson invited anyone concerned about
degrading or lowering the value of their property to inspect any of the exist-
ing units, at his expense, to see how they are being maintained, and to talk
to some of the owners, and then make their conclusions. He stated in this
particular type of development the person on the same property is farther
from his neighbor than in an average tract home,
Mr. Martin also stated owners had some control over their neighbor under
deed restrictions. If, for instance, the yard is not maintained, a Committee
will see that it is done and he will be charged for it. There are certain
cooperative controls exercised so that yards and premises will be maintained.
Mr. Robinson stated that when they take this package to a lender, the lender
wants to know what happens. They show them the existing units and the lenders
are happy to lend, He also stated that funds were committed for the program
here if they are permitted to go ahead with it. Mr. Robinson advised that
90% of their units are sold to retired couples, and their down payment require-
ment is $1,000. The average net worth of the buyer is $23,000, and the
average age is 60.5.
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Mr. Robinson stated that restrictions applied with the deed provides for
a committee of three or five functioning as an architectural committee so
that the exterior and grounds must be maintained. The Committee functions
when there is any conflict., therefore, these units are all maintained to a
standard. He also stated it was their intention to direct their advertising
of these homes to the Bakersfield and Fresno areas..
Director Gallop stated a developer can limit sales by the design, number
of square footage available for living purposes., facilities included within
the house, and by orienting their advertising, and the minimum down payment
required. There are very few tracts or subdivisions in this area where
houses have sold for a minimum of $1,000 down unless they are custom homes..
In discussing this with Central Savings, they indicated that as far as
lending agencies were concerned., they would consider $15,000 to be the maximum
retail sales price. With $1,000 down on a $12,000 to $15,000 house, this
limits the merchandising area quite severly. Director Gallop also stated that
14 additional units would not put an undue burden on these streets as they were
built for a higher capacity. A developer could build very marginal single
family homes with 1 or 2 bathrooms and 4 bedrooms, which could bring in a lot
of children. Mr. Gallop mentioned one other fact brought out many times in
research is that retirement couples do not create additional school tax problems,
they spend their money here, and for each person that moves into the City,
the City gets $15.00 from the State for tax benefits. This kind of person
coming into the community is definitely a benefit.
Mr. Robinson also stated that the homes would be sold as an individual
half interest of the real property with the sole exclusive right to use the
one half portion. He also stated that there were •restrictions to what owners
can do; for example, they cannot make two stories and cannot add on. The
modern concept is a common wall, 40' fee simple title on each side.
After further discussion, on motion of Commissioner Porter, seconded by
Commissioner Strother, and unanimously carried, that a special meeting be
set for Tuesday, April 30th, with the Public Hearing scheduled at 7:45.
ADJOURNMENT
Chairman McMillen declared the meeting adjourned at 9 :08 p.m.
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