PC Minutes 1962-10-19�
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ARROYO GRANDE, CALIFORNIA
OCTOBER 19, 1962
A special meeting of :the Planning Commission was held on the
above date in the City Council Room, City Hall, at 7:30 P.M.
PRESENT: Mr. Brisco, Mr. Shultz, Mr. Shaffer, Mr. Smith,
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Mr. Strother
ABSENT: Mr. Talley, Mr. Evans
COND. USE PERMIT - Branch St. (Edgar - Och)
A Conditional Use Permit to permit a new and used Furniture
Store on Branch Street for D.J. Edgar and Robert S. Och was
discussed by the Planning Commission. Mr. Edgar explained
the proposed use. A motion was made by Mr. Strother, seconded
by Mr. Shaffer, approving the proposed use as no more object-
ionable than those uses listed under C-1 zone in the Zoning
Ordinance.
ALL AYE S
VAR. REQUEST - Grand and Hnlcyon (Polin-Johnson)
Mr. Polin and Mr. Johnson presented a revised preliminary
plan to the Planning Commission for the proposed car wash at
Grand and Halcyon. A discussion followed. A motion was made
by Mr. Strother, seconded by Mr. Shaffer, that a hearing date
For the Variance request be set for November 7, 1962 at 8:00 PM
ALL AYE S
COiVD. USE PERMIT - Huasna Rd. (Allen
Eugene Al1en explained to the Planning Commission the location
of a proposed wood yard on Huansa Road and stated that this
would be for wood storage only. The wood would be delivered
from the site. Mr. Anderson explained that this would be a
non-conforming use as presently zoned. On motion by Mr.
Shultz, seconded by Mr. Strother, a hearing was set for
November 7, 1962, at 7:00 PM, subject to an application of
a Conditional Use Permit. �
ALL AYES
Don Shaffer was granted permission by the Chairman to leave
the meeting.
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TRACT NO. 260 - Final Approval
Richard Wood, representing Norman and Towery, discussed a
farm access easement on the east side of Tract 260, also
the disposition of Lot A.
A motion was made by Mr..Strother, seconded by Mr. Shultz,
to grant final approval of Tract # 260 on condition: (1) that
they install sidewalks, curb, gutter, and half the paving on
Fair Oaks Ave. (2) the paving of all of Fair Oaks Ave. from
Halcyon Rd. easterly to Arroyo Grande Creek will be as out-
lined by Mr. Harris at the Planning Commission meeting of
January 5, 1960, unless otherwise permitted by action of
City Council. (3) final map shall indicate farm access right of
�way at rear of Lot 13 thru 22. (4) Lots l, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8 and 9
each shall hold a 1/7 undivided interest in Lot A as indicated
on the final map.
ROLL CALL: Mr. Brisco, Mr. Shultz, Mr. Smith, Mr. Stro.ther
ALL AYES �
ABSENT: Mr. Shaffer, Mr. Talley, Mr. Evans �
COUNTY ZONING IN CONJUNCTION WITiri CITY ZONING -
Addison Wood discussed the possibility of the City adopting
the County zoning ordinance, to eleviate conflict with the City
Zoning on annexations.
Mr. Shaffer returned to the meeting.
Mr. Shaffer discussed the possibility of establishing a R-1 2
zone in the Zoning Ordinance. Chairman Brisco appointed Mr.
Shaffer and Mr. Shultz to make a study of the possibility of
this zone .
The next meeting of the Planning Commission was set for
November 7, 1962 at '7:00 PM.
ADJOURNMENT
No further business appearing, on motion by Mr. Strother,
seconded by Mr. Shultz, the meeting was adjourned at 12:45
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Mr. Brisca, Chairman
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Arroyo Grande, Calif.
November 5, 1962
7:30 p.m.
The Planning Commission met in special session with Chairman Brisco
presiding. Present were Commissioners Strother, Schultz, Shaffer, Smith,
Talley and Councilman Wood.. Absent was Commissioner Evans.
APPOINTMENT OF NEW MEMBERS TO PLANN. COMM
The appointment by the Council of the Planning Commission members
retroactive to July l, 1962, of Smith, Strother and Brisco for two year
terms, and Schultz, Shaffer, Talley, and Evans for four year terms was
discussed..
RECONVENE PLANNING COMMISSION �
Chairman Brisco resigned as chairman of the Planning Commission
and as acting Chairman called for nominations to reconvene the planning
commission, and nominated Commissioner Talley for Chairman. Commissioner
Smith moved nominations be closed and it was so moved.. A motion was
mad.e by Commissioner Shaffer, second.ed. by Commissioner Schultz, that
Oliver Talley be Chairman of the Commission. All present voted 'tAye't.
Chairman Talley, presid.ing, said Mr. Brisco had. done a real good job as
Chairman and felt the community as a whole appreciated his service.
Nominations were then opened for Chairman pro-tem. Commissioner
Schultz nominated Gommissioner Strother and Commissioner Strother nominated.
Commissioner Shaffer. Commissioner Strother moved. nominations be closed
and it was so moved. Commissioner Schultz withdrew his nomination for
Commissioner Strother. A motion was mad.e by Commissioner Strother,
second.ed by Commissioner Schultz, that Commissioner Shaffer be Chairman
Pro-Tem, All present voted '!Aye".
Nominations were opened for Secretary. Commissioner Brisco nominated.
Commissioner Strother. Commissioner Schultz moved noma.nations be closed
and it was so moved.. A motion was made by Commissioner Brisco, second.ed
by Commissioner Schultz that Commissioner Strother be secretary of the
Planning Commission. All members present voted "Aye't.
ChaiMnan Talley appointed.Commissioner Schultz as liason officer
to attend Council meetings and Commissioner Shaffer as stand-by�liason
officer.
Chairman Ta11ey appointed the Build.ing Inspector and Commissioner
Brisco to serve with himself as a lot-split committee.
ELM ST. PLAN LINE
Tentative plans were presented by Mr. And.erson for a plan line on
Elm Street. After discussion it was agreed, a hearing should be held
to d.etermine the property owners feelings. A motion was mad.e by �
Commissioner Shaffer, seconded by Commissioner Smith, that a hearing
be held on December 4th, 1962 at 8:00 p.m. for the purpose of d.evelop-
ing plan lines for Elm Street from Grand Ave. to the southerly line of
Tract 244. All members present voted "Aye".
BRIGHTON AVE. - BRISCO RD. INTERSECTION
The intersection of Brighton Ave. with Brisco Road was taken und.er
discussion. A possible solution was to lower the grade on Brisco Road.
so visibility would be increased, if- another method of access could bel'�
arranged to the homes now existing on Brisco Road. Mr. Anderson was to
contact the property owners to determine their feelings toward develop-
ing a street in back of the present homes, which would provid.e another
access;.and. possible development of lots on the back of the property.
LEAGUE CONF. IN L.A.
Mr. Anderson gave a short resume of the planning commission meet-
ings held. at the League conference in Los Angeles, and. outlined. some
of the d.uties of the planning commission.
BLANKET ZONING
Commissioner Shaffer advised Councilman Wood, it was established
at the League Conference that blanket zoning could. not be combined
with an annexation, and that the City must take the normal procedure
to rezone, after an annexation has been completed..
COMBINING ZONE R-1'2
Commissioners Shaffer and Schultz reported. on a Combining Zone,
R-12 and discussion followed. A motion was made by Commissioner
Brisco, second.ed by Commissioner Strother that the Combining Zone be
referred to the City Attorney to be documented in legal form for the
planning commissions review. All members present voted.tTAyett.
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ANNEX. RE�UEST - Halcyon`Rd: (Burton) � �
The annexation request of L. D. Burton on Halcyoni.Road,
that had been referred. to the Planning Commission from the'
Council was discussed. The property involved conflicted with
the City Master Plan and further information would be necessary
before a decision could be reached. Chairman Talley appointed
a committee of Commiss"ioners Shaffer and Schultz to make a
study and report to the commission.
OVERALL DRAINAGE �
Councilman Wood discussed the d.rainage problem with the
commission and explained there was a natural gravity flow to
the slough in Oceano that would. not conflict with Grover City
and Oceano, and. he felt that it would be possible for the '
Cities and County to work together, with the County taking the
initiative and. work out the drainage problem to everyone's
satisfaction.
ADJOURNMENT � �
A motion was made by Commissioner Shaffer, seconded by
Commissioner Schultz that the meeting be adjourned. All members
present voted "Aye". ° '
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ATTEST : ,.Q,P�-
Newe 1 W. Stro'ther Oliver Ta y
Secretary Chairman �
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Arroyo Grande, Calif.
November 7, 1962
7:00 P.M.
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The Planning Commission met in regular session with Chairman
Talley presiding. Present were Commissioners Schultz, Shaffer,
Brisco, Strother and Councilman Wood.. Absent were Commissioners
Smith and Evans.
MINUTE APPROVAL �
A motion was made by Commissioner Brisco, seconded by .
Commissioner Schultz, that the minutes of the meeting of October
19th, 1962 be approved. as prepared.. Al1 members present voted.
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DRESSMAKING SHOP - Traffic Way�� " ' �
A motion was mad.e by Comm�issioner Strother, seconded by
Commissioner Shaffer that approval be granted for a Dressmaking
Shop in a HS Zone at 154 Traffic Way as being no more objectionable
than those uses listed in Ordinance No. 157. All members present
voted 'tAye" . . • �
VAR. HEARING - Elm St. -Farrel Rd. Williams
The hearing regarding t e variance request of Merle Williams
to permit an R-3 use in an RA-B 3 Zone at the northeast corner
of Elm St. and. Farrell Road was declared opened. Robert Walker
spoke in favor of the proposed��dariarice and Mr. Stites of 1130 .
Palm St, objected to the change for reasons of drainage. The
hearing was declared closed. A motion was made by Commissioner
Shaffer, seconded by Coinmissioner Brisco, that the variance be
granted for the R-3D use subject to plans being approved by the
Director of Public Works, curb and gutters being installed, and .
any development conform to the proposed plan line of Elm St.
All members present voted "Aye".
VAR. HEPiRING - SE Cor Elm St. & Grand Ave. (Condosta
The hearing regarding t e variance request of Leo Condosta
to permit an apartment in conjunction with C-1 use on the south-
east corner of Grand Ave, and Elm St, was declared. opened..
Discussion followed and no protests were received. The hearing
was d.eclared. closed.. A motion was made by Gommissioner Schultz,
seconded by Commissioner Strother that the variance be allowed.
All members present voted. '�Aye'T . �
COND, USE PERMIT HEARING - Halcyon Rd. & Grand Ave. (Johnson
The hearirig regarding a conditional use permit by Joseph
Johnson to permit a car wash to be established. in a C-1 zone
at the southeast corner of Grand Ave. and Halcyon Road was -
declared. opened. No oral protests were received and one written
protest was received. Discussion of the a�pplication was postponed.
at this time until later in the meeting. •
VARIANCE HEARING - Arroyo &ve:1 (Anderso� `
The hearing regarding the variance request of Robert L.
,Anderson to permit red.uced front yard. setback on Lots 37,38,39,
40, 41 and. 42 in the Jones Tract on the east side of Arroyo Ave.,
was declared opened. No protests were received. The hearing was
d.eclared closed. A motion was made by Commissioner Strother,
seconded by Commissioner Brisco that the variance be allowed.
All members present voted "Aye".
COND. USE PRM. HEARING _ Grand Ave. (Heller
The hearing regarding a conditional use permit request by
Betty Heller to use the build.ing at 1018 Grand Ave. for Boat
and Motor Sales and Service was declared opened. No protests .
were received. The hearing was d.eclared closed. A motion was
made by Commissioner Shaffer, second.ed by Commissioner Brisco
that the conditional use permit be granted subject to review
in 12 months on the basis of noise and. od.ors. All members
present voted t'Aye't
VAR. HEARING - Steele's Resub �
The hearing set for a variance request to permit the storage
of fire wood on a portion of Lot 18 of Steele's resubdivision was
not held, as formal application had. not been completed..
VAR. REQ. - Sunset Drive (Landini)
A motion was made by Commissioner Strother, second.ed by
Commissioner Shaffer that the variance request of Frank Landini
for a professional office bu.ilding in an R-1 Zone on Sunset Drive
be set for hearing on December 4th, 1962 at 7:30 p.m. All members
present voted "Aye" .
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TRACT 283 - Tentative Map
. The tentative map of Tract 2 3 as submitted and. discussed.
A motion was mad.e by Commissioner other, seconded. by Commissioner
Shaffer that discussion of this tract be continued until the meeting
of N,ovember 20, 1962. A11 members present voted T'Aye". .
TRACT 282 - Master Plnn '
A master plan map of Tract 282 was submitted and discussed and
further action was helcT over to: the meeting of November 20"th, 1962.
ANNEX REQUEST - Pacific Land & Home D velo .
he annexation reques o� aci ic nd and Homes Development
was submitted'to the Commission for review. �
TRACT 1I0. 136 - Final Ma
The ina map o Led.o Heights, Tract No. 136 was submitted. and
discussed. A motion by Commissioner Brisco, seconded by Commissioner
Shaffer, to accept the final map of Tract 136 subject to the City
of Arroyo Grande Subdivision Ordinance and by the following roll call
vote, to-wit:
AYES: Commissioners Schultz,Shaffer,Talley,Brisco and
Strother
- NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Smith and Evans
the foregoing motion was approved.
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Commissioner Brisco was excused by Chairman Talley, and left
the meeting.
COND. USE PERMIT - Grand-Halc on Johnso�
The conditional use permit requested by Joseph Johnson was
' again taken under d.iscussion by the commission. The Committee of �
Commissioners Shaffer and Strother submitted a report regarding �•
the use permit, which .was read by Commissioner Shaffer. A motion '
was made by Commissioner Strother, seconded by Commissioner Schultz
_ that the report be accepted and ordered filed. All members present
voted "Aye". A motion was made by Commissioner Shaffer, seconded
by Commissioner Schultz, that the conditional use permit of Joseph
� Johnson be granted with architectual design, drainage, paving and
final plans being in conformance with the committee report filed
and subject to the approval of the Director of Public Works and
the Planning Commission. Al1 members present voted "Aye",
VAR. REQ HEARING - Grand Ave. (Williams Sho in Center)
The earing regarding t e variance reques e3 Ed Williams
. to permit a shopping �center to be established in a RA-B3 zone on
Lots 5-6-7-8-9 and 10 of the Folsom Tract was declared open. Mr.
Bailey, Mr. Cummins, Mrs. Bielefeld, Mrs. Tabata spoke in protest
of the change. Mr. Wallace Barr, and.Mr. Howard Mankins spoke in
favor of the change. After discussion, most of the protestents
agreed they would. be in favor of the variance if the drainage
could be disposed of. A motion was made by Commissioner Schultz,
seconded by Commissioner Strother, that the variance be granted.
' with D Zone use, subject to the drainage being alleviated, the
required set-back for the Elm St. Plan Line, and the plans being
submitted for approval by the Director of Public Works and Plann-
ing Commission. A11 members present voted "Ayet'.
REZONING - Area of Wm. Bros. Shop�ing Center
The Planning Commission discusse�c plans for the rezoning to
C-1D, the property designated by Williams Bros. for a shopping area,
and other property in that general vicinity, if requested by property
owners . �...
PLOT PLAN - (Hogan) ��
Carl Hogan submitted a plot plan and build.ing plan to conform
with a Variance granted. on September 4th, 1962. A motion was made
by Commissioner Shaffer, second.ed by Commissioner Strother,�hat the
plans be approved as submitted. All members present voted "Aye".
ZONING ORD. AMENDMENT DISCUSSION
Commissioner Shaffer requested the zoning ordinance be amended
to conform with the County assessed and appraised values, as the
City no longer set appraised values.
CITY ENGINEER DISCUSSION
� Commissioner Shaffer requested Councilman Wood. discuss with the
Council the possibility of the City hiring an engineer from outside
the area who would not be submitting his own work to the City, on a
part time basis to check engineering developments and make a recommen-
dation to the Planning Gommission, as the situation of a conflict of
interest has not accured and should be avoided in the future. �
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AGINDA CLOSING DAY — PURCHASE OF DATE STAMP
Mr. Anderson was also requested to set a closing day for agenda's
in ord.er to have sufficient�time to prepare for the meeting, and
to purchase a stamp in order to place the date of receipt on
docuinents . � ��
ADJOURNMENT
A motion was made•by Commissioner Shaff.er, seconded by Commiss-
ioner Schultz that the meeting be adjourned. All��members present
voted 'tAye'T . � � • : �
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