Minutes 2001-10-03 SP
MINUTES
SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 3,2001
COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 214 E. BRANCH STREET
ARROYO GRANDE, CALIFORNIA
1. CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Lady called the Special City Council meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
2. ROLL CALL
City Council: Council Members Runels, Lubin, Dickens, Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara, and
Mayor Lady were present.
City Staff: City Manager Adams; City Attorney Carmel; Director of Administrative
Services Wetmore; Director of Public Works Spagnolo; Acting Community
Development Director Heffernon; and General Plan Update and EIR Consultant Rob
Strong were present.
3. FLAG SALUTE
Mayor Lady led the Flag Salute.
City Manager Adams gave a brief overview of the discussion outline for the meeting,
which would include receiving public comment; a review and discussion of the
Agriculture Element policies; a review of changes to the document in response to
public comment received; clarification of outstanding issues, particularly with regard
to a policy regarding E. Grand Avenue Gateway affordable housing density; an
opportunity to address any issue the City Council wants to clarify or revisit; a review
of the ErR and Statement of Overriding Considerations; and consideration of
adoption of the General Plan Update.
4. CITIZENS' INPUT, COMMENTS. AND SUGGESTIONS
Ella Honeycutt, 560 Oak Hill Road, spoke in favor of retaining agricultural land and
uses in the City.
Bruce Vanderveen, 1273 Branch Mill Road, spoke in favor of converting the parcel
located at 1273 Branch Mill Road from agriculture to single-family residential. He
stated there were many people in the audience in support of the project and
requested they stand to show the Council their support.
Mona Tucker, 660 Camino Del Rey, requested the Council look favorably upon Mr.
Vanderveen's request to convert his parcel from agriculture to single-family
residential.
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Wayne King, representing the owners of the Vanderveen property, quoted from the
CASP Study regarding definition of prime agricultural land. He spoke in favor of
converting the Vanderveen property from agriculture to medium density single-family
residential.
Mary Vanderveen, Branch Mill Road, stated that the decisions the Council make
affect lives. She spoke in support of converting the Vanderveen property from
agriculture to single-family residential.
Ed Cardoza, 428 Greenwood Drive, expressed concerns about the condition of
Branch Mill Road. He stated that the Council's prime concern with further
development in that area should be safe access to Branch Mill Road. He stated
currently, Branch Mill Road was not safe and stated that resurfacing would be
welcome. He expressed further concerns with regard to the blind turns and hills, and
some areas that bottleneck on Branch Mill Road. He concluded by stating he was
not against development; however, he was concerned it be handled in a responsible
way.
Howard Mankins, 200 Hillcrest Drive, stated he was one of the few people who have
preserved agricultural land, his ranch is in an agriculture preserve, and that was his
choice. He stated he had watched the City grow over the years and believes that
property rights are a major issue. He said if property owners want to preserve their
land, there are tools to do that. He stated the City needs to focus on developing a
plan that addresses traffic and streets. He urged the Council to plan properly for the
City's development.
Otis Page, 606 Myrtle, thanked the Council for its arduous task in developing the
General Plan and commented that tonight the Council would be discussing the
policies on agriculture. He stated that when discussing water as a barrier to
development in the City, there is no problem with water; in discussing the traffic
issue, it is known from the consultant's testimony that the traffic model cannot be
used without proper data to make decisions about what the City should do with traffic.
He said a sound policy has been developed in that area. He stated that as the
Council considers agriculture, it should also consider the rights of people to develop
their property. He stated that the General Plan is a plan to guide development.
Pat Cusack, 1080 Newsom Springs Road, spoke in support of Mr. Vanderveen's
conversion request. He commented he had followed all of the work that has gone
into the General Plan Update, and appreciated the opportunity for providing input.
He spoke in favor of preserving as much agricultural land as possible, while at the
same time acknowledging there are certain situations that may call for some
considerations for people to convert and develop property. He supported the
residential zoning of the Vanderveen property as well as the Cherry Avenue property.
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Carie Randolph spoke in support of saving agricultural lands, and stated she
understood that property owners have property rights, although the lands in question
have always been zoned as agriculture. She stated that most of the public voted to
preserve the agricultural lands.
Colleen Martin, 855 Olive, stated that the previous speaker was probably referring to
the survey that was done four years ago. She reminded the Council what the survey
said, that over 88% of those surveyed said save our prime agricultural land. She
requested the Council reflect back on the results of that survey.
5. CONSIDERATION OF THE 2001 GENERAL PLAN UPDATE POLICY DOCUMENTS
AND ELEMENTS AND FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT (FEIR)
AGRICULTURE and CONSERVATION/OPEN SPACE ELEMENT
Consultant Strong stated he would begin a review of the Agriculture Element policies.
He clarified that from the previous public hearings, the Council has gone through the
policies and objectives in the other Elements, identifying by consensus any changes. He
stated the Council had made partial progress in reviewing the Agriculture Element and
had requested some alternatives. He distributed a memo depicting anticipated objective
and policy alternatives for the Council's review and discussion. He then explained that
other policy statements have been considered and changes that had received consensus
were reflected in the Plan.
Consultant Strong explained there was one objective in the Agriculture Element (Ag1)
that had a need for further consideration of refined wording. He acknowledged that there
had been concerns expressed about the definition of prime farmland soils. He explained
the proposed wording in the draft was derived from the Local Agency Formation
Commission's definition of prime agriculture land which comes from State law, and it
basically references Class I and Class II Department of Agriculture, Natural Resources
Conservation Service land use capability classifications, and distinguishes whether
irrigated or not (provided that irrigation is feasible) it would be considered prime
agricultural land. Consultant Strong requested direction from the Council regarding the
alternative agricultural for Ag1 and Ag1-1.
Council Member Dickens commented that due to the uniqueness of this area it is
important to create or define prime agricultural lands in additional terms. He provided a
handout to Council with additional proposed wording. He also displayed two graphs
depicting soil types from the CASP report for reference purposes and gave a brief
overview of the information. Council Member Dickens recommended his proposed
additional statement be added to Consultant Strong's proposed language in Ag1-1.1, as
follows: "Prime Farmland Soils shall also include farmland of Statewide importance as
identified in the USDA, Natural Resources ConseNation SeNices, outlined in the Land
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Inventory and Monitoring (LlM) Project Soil Survey for San Luis Obispo County,
California, Coastal Part, September 1984."
Council Member Runels disagreed with a few of Council Member Dickens' statements
regarding what prime farmland is. He stated he believed it did not make any difference
what the soil classification is, the land is operator driven. He commented that there is
urbanization all the way around a lot of the parcels in question. He also stated he
believed that property rights were an important consideration, and owners need to have
the ability to do what they want with their property. Council Member Runels supported
the revised language in Ag1 as revised by the Consultant.
Council Member Lubin asked Council Member Dickens if any agricultural zoned land
within the City would not be considered prime farmland under this definition. Council
Member Dickens responded no and provided clarification. Discussion ensued regarding
how the proposed policy could define all the agricultural zoned property as prime
farmland. Consultant Strong explained that the proposed wording of the policies do not
exempt non-prime land from conservation and preservation, but it does emphasize that
the most important focus of preservation should be on prime agricultural land. For
consistency, he supported Council Member Dickens' proposed additional wording for
Ag1-1.1 which is consistent with the CASP report and does not preclude from converting.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara commented that the Council had skipped through Ag1 and made
an assumption that the words "avoid, minimize, or mitigate the loss of prime farmland
soils" was something that was appropriate. He disagreed with the proposed alternative
for Ag1 and stated he believed that avoiding, minimizing, or mitigating the loss of prime
farmland weakens the policy. He strongly supported the original draft language for Ag1
of no net loss of prime farmland soils, and supported changes to Ag1-1.1 as proposed by
Council Member Dickens.
Mayor Lady asked for each Council Member's position on the revised language for
Objective Ag1 - Avoid, minimize and/or mitigate loss of prime farmland soils and
conserve non-prime Agriculture use and natural resource lands.
Council Members Lubin and Runels supported Ag1 as revised.
Council Member Dickens stated he preferred to have no net loss of prime farmland so he
would go support the original wording of the Objective as drafted.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara stated he would not support Ag1 as revised.
Mayor Lady supported Ag1 as revised.
Mayor Lady asked for each Council Member's position on the additional language to
Ag1-1.1 as proposed by Council Member Dickens.
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Council Member Lubin supported the additional language to Ag1-1.1.
Council Member Runels did not support the additional language to Ag1-1.1.
Council Members Dickens, Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara, and Mayor Lady supported the
additional language to Ag 1-1 .1.
There was majority consensus of the Council on the wording of Ag1 and Ag1-1.1 as
follows:
Ag1 - Avoid, minimize and/or mitigate loss of prime farmland soils and conserve non-
prime Agriculture use and natural resource lands.
Ag1-1.1 - "...Prime farmland soils shall also include farmland of Statewide importance as
identified in the USDA, Natural Resources Conservation Services, outlined in the Land
Inventory and Monitoring (LlM) Project Soil Survey for San Luis Obispo County,
California, Coastal Part, September 1984."
Consultant Strong referred to Ag1-1 and requested direction from the Council regarding
the deletion of the introductory statement, "Except as already committed to County
Fringe Area Residential Rural and Suburban Development and the City's established
urban land use pattern,". There was consensus of the Council to delete the statement
from Ag1-1. Revised Ag1-1 reads as follows:
Ag1-1 - Designate prime farmland soils that are not predominately committed to non-
Agricultural development as Agriculture (Ag) and/or Agriculture Preserve (AgP), whether
or not in current agricultural productive use.
Council Member Dickens requested adding a statement under Ag2-1 to read as follows:
"Support requests that seek to provide needed surface and/or ground water resources
for agricultural irrigation to those properties zoned Agriculture, Very Low Density and
Low Density." Consultant Strong indicated the statement was consistent with the
objective. There was some discussion on the definition of "Support requests" as used in
the statement. Following discussion, there was a suggestion to change the words
"Support requests that seek" to "Support efforts".
There was consensus of the Council to add the statement as policy 2-1.2 as follows:
Ag 2-1.2 - Support efforts to provide needed surface and/or ground water resources for
agricultural irrigation to those properties zoned Agriculture, Very Low Density and Low
Density.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara referred to Ag2 and wanted to ensure that the Land Use Element
also contains supporting language with regard to ensuring sufficient water for sustaining
agriculture. Consultant Strong referred to the cover page of the Agriculture,
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Conservation and Open Space Element which states that it is an integral part of the Land
Use Element.
Consultant Strong referred to alternative wording provided in Ag3-1, Ag3-14, Ag3-14.1,
Ag3-14.2 and requested direction from the Council on the proposed revisions. Following
discussion, there was consensus of the Council on the policies as follows:
Ag3-1 - e)(ssl3t as I3rsvisss in .^.€J 1 1, Designate non-prime farmland soils for all lands
currently in agricultural use and vacant lands that have been used for agricultural
production at least six months during the past ten (10) years as Agriculture (Ag) unless
otherwise classified and partiallv developed for non-Aaricultural uses.
Ag3-14 - Consider re-classification into ~rBan ~so of an Ag parcel (or contiguous-set of
parcels) witl:iin City BOlJAsariss sr Sl3hsre sf Infl~snss, only if and when the parcel or set
of parcels is less than the minimum size (e.g. leaallv non-conformina as to area) and is
"isolated" from other agricultural uses.
Ag3-14.1 - "Isolated" shall refer to a parcel or set of parcels being predominatelv
separated from other nearbv Aariculture areas. or predominatelv surrounded (€In all fe\Jr
~ by existing urban non-aaricultural uses, such that it lacks contiguity with or
connection to other areas of existina or potential agricultural use.
Ag3-14.2 - In cases considered for conversion re sesi~Aatisn, the parcel(s) shall be
adequately served by appropriate infrastructure and any development application shall
be subject to environmental analysis as referenced in ACOSE Policy Ag1-4.
Consultant Strong referred to Ag5-2.2 and explained the Planning Commission
discussed minimum agricultural buffer distance requirements and the need for flexibility
to fit existing conditions. The Commission recommended that 'No portion of any new
residential structure should be located closer than 200 feet from the site of agricultural
operations. Greater or lesser distances may be required based upon site-specific
circumstances" .
Council discussion ensued with regard to minimum agricultural buffer distances. Mayor
Pro Tem Ferrara suggested addition of wording to include consideration of established or
existing farming operations or practices. The Council reached consensus on Ag5-2.2 as
follows:
Ag5-2.2 - No portion of any new residential structure within a non-Agricultural land use
designation shall be located closer than 100 feet from the site of agricultural operations
within an Agricultural land designation. Greater distances may be required based upon
site-specific circumstances, to include consideration of established or existina farmina
operations or practices.
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Council Member Dickens referred to Ag5-2.3 and requested that the wording be revised
to require that the buffer area be "noticed and/or" fenced and landscaped. He also
referred to Ag5-2.4 and said that a 20 foot landscape buffer area was not deep enough
and proposed it be increased to 30 feet.
Following discussion, there was Council consensus on Ag5-2.3 and Ag5-2.4 as follows:
Ag5-2.3 - The buffer area shall be noticed and/or fenced and landscaped in such
manner to discourage human and domestic animal movement between the urban and
agricultural areas and to screen urban uses from dust and wind-borne materials.
Ag5-2.4 - The buffer area shall contain a minimum 20 feet depth of landscaping.
Plantings shall be sufficiently dense and mature to provide aerosol protection within the
first year of establishment. Greater landscaping depth may be required based upon site-
specific circumstances, to include consideration of established or existinq farminq
operations or practices.
Mayor Lady called for a break at 9:25 p.m. and reconvened the meeting at 9:36 p.m.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara referred to C/OS1-1.1 and stated that the definition of what
constitutes a "scenic resource" is underdeveloped. He requested the last segment of the
sentence read as follows: "...unique to the City, or contribute to the rural, small town
character of the City." There was consensus of the Council on C/OS1-1.1 as follows:
C/OS1-1.1 - For purposes of this policy, a 'scenic resource' may refer to agricultural
land, open spaces, hillsides, ridgelines, canyons, valleys, landmark trees, woodlands,
wetlands, streambeds and banks, as well as aspects of the built environment that are of
a historic nature, unique to the City. or contribute to the rural. small town character of the
City.
Council Member Dickens requested an Implementation Measure be added as
Ag/C/OS.21 as follows: "Support the establishment of a local fundinq mechanism. as
identified by City Council. which allocates funds toward the voluntarv purchase of
aqricultural conservation easements." There was consensus of the Council to add the
Implementation Measure as proposed.
Consultant Strong referred to a memorandum distributed to the Council dated October 3,
2001 relating to additional policy clarifications regarding density and mixed use projects
prior to comprehensive Development Code revisions. He recommended that a policy be
included in the Introduction of the 2001 General Plan and repeated as LU5-12 directing
staff to initiate at the earliest feasible time a Development Code Amendment including a
provision substantially as follows: "Mixed Use developments in current VC, HC, GC, or I
zones - Any combination of mixed sues, or any project proposing a residential
component in a commercial or industrial district shall be considered pursuant to
Conditional Use Permit approval (Development Code Section 9-03-050) or Planned Unit
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Development Permit approval (Development Code Section 9-03-160). In addition, where
affordable housing is proposed in a Mixed Use designation, density incentives exceeding
25% may be considered." There was consensus of the Council to approve staff's
recommendation.
Consultant Strong reviewed responses to public comment and stated that there were no
land use designation changes to the Land Use Element Map or substantive changes to
the policies.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara stated he had some suggested wording changes in the General
Plan Elements, as follows:
Take out "an" on Page LUE14, LU9 - "Provide for 8fI appropriate maintenance,
development...... . Council concurred.
Add "CEQA review" and omit rest of sentence on Page LUE17, LU11-3.3 - .....Any
project that would degrade the Level of Service at the peak hour per City circulation
policies will require CEQA review a StaleR'1ent ef Ovsr-riein€j Csnsiesratiens er C!;;Q^
finsin€js. Council concurred.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara referred to Page CE9, CT5-6.2 and stated he was not sure it
needed to remain as a General Plan Policy. Discussion ensued regarding Project Study
Reports, funding plans for projects; and the roles of County of San Luis Obispo, Caltrans,
and SLOCOG in reviewing regional projects. Following discussion, Council reached
consensus on the following revision to CT5-6.2 as follows:
CT5-6.2 - Request that the County, Caltrans, and SLOCOG consider proportional
participation in LOE QarF0€, EI Car:F1J3s, TFame 'lAtay, Fair Oal{s, Valley QAEf FlalGysA Re:J8
iR'1fJroveR'1ents BeIY/eeR l=Ii€jhway 1 ane Freeway 191 proiects involvinq reqional traffic
impacts.
Consultant Strong indicated this was the opportunity for the Council to clarify or revisit
any other issues.
Mayor Lady stated he would like to readdress Land Use Areas 7Eb - East Myrtle, East
Cherry and East Cherry Extension East of Noguera Place South of Arroyo Grande
Creek, Including Lierly Lane; 7Sb - South of East Cherry Avenue, East of Traffic Way;
and the Vanderveen property off of Branch Mill Road.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara stated he would like to readdress Land Use Area 2, Rancho
Grande/Noyes Road.
Mayor Lady referred to the 10+ acres on East Cherry and suggested an alternative land
use. He suggested a changed use from agriculture to a Planned Development with an
agricultural buffer, with the agricultural portion to be for non-pesticide farming uses. He
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explained this would allow the zoning change of the 1.3-acre portion owned by the
Japanese Welfare Association to be residential; and the Planned Development would
allow smaller residential lots.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara agreed that Mixed Use is a good reclassification and the
Planned Development would specify uses and result in a good plan. He inquired
whether the 2-acre parcel on Traffic Way currently zoned Highway Commercial would be
included.
Discussion ensued with regard to Mixed Use classifications; Planned Developments;
non-pesticide use farming; and clarification regarding the intent of integrating an
agricultural related component to the land use designation, rather than referring to it as
an agricultural buffer.
Council Member Lubin referred to the Planned Development concept and asked if the
Council designates the parcel as Planned Development with an Agricultural component,
does the Planned Development proposal come back to the Council for approval of
specifics with regard to the project? Consultant Strong responded yes.
Consultant Strong clarified that the General Plan land use classification is not the zoning;
therefore by designating it for a combination of residential and Mixed Use to include
agricultural retention on portions of the property, the General Plan designation is
complete. He explained the hearing process the property owner would have to complete
in order to proceed with rezoning the property from agriculture and receiving Council
approval for a Mixed Use Planned Development.
City Attorney Carmel explained that due to the unique nature of this proposal, he stated
the text change within the General Plan should be very specific with regard to setting
parameters for development of the property. He suggested the Council determine
roughly what portion of the property should be agricultural and what portion of the
property and what lot sizes are preferred for the residential component.
Mayor Lady suggested lot sizes of approximately 5,500 square feet.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara summarized the discussion by clarifying that this planning area
would be classified as Mixed Use, Planned Development, and would contain a residential
component with approximate lot sizes of 5,500 square feet, an agricultural component
which may include the operation of an organic farm, a teaching farm, or other agricultural
related use, and would also contain a Highway Commercial frontage of approximately
2.5 acres which would border Traffic Way and Cherry Avenue.
City Attorney Carmel and Consultant Strong stated this language was specific enough for
the General Plan.
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Following further discussion, there was consensus of the Council regarding Land Use
Study Area 7Sb - South of East Cherry Avenue, East of Traffic Way as proposed by
Mayor Lady.
Council Member Runels referred to the Vanderveen property on Branch Mill Road and
gave a brief overview of the area's history. He suggested that it was appropriate to
change the land use designation the applicant has requested from Agriculture to Medium
Density Single Family Residential.
Mayor Lady stated he could support that suggestion.
Council Member Dickens asked if it would be appropriate to look at the remaining four
parcels the same way. He said if the subject parcel was changed, the other parcels
should also be changed.
Mayor Lady stated the other parcels should be considered on their own merit at such
time that the property owners request a redesignation.
Council Member Dickens referred to Ordinance No. 153 C.S. which was adopted in May
1977 and read portions of the Ordinance that said property was rezoned from "A"
Agriculture to "A-D" Agriculture District with the "-D" override to provide a basic five (5)
acre minimum parcel size. He displayed a map highlighting those areas. He asked City
Attorney Carmel if the Council would need to readdress this particular Ordinance.
City Attorney Carmel replied that as with all new General Plan designations, ultimately
the Council will have to render the zoning consistent with the new General Plan
designation. He stated that this property was not any different than rezoning any other
property consistent with its General Plan designation. He explained that all ordinances
can be amended or repealed.
Council Member Dickens stated that the objective of providing the Ordinance was to
display the intent of the owners in the area at that particular time, the intent of the
Council at that time, and it was part of the conditions of approval of the Greenwood
Tract. He suggested that if it were the intent of the Council to look at these smaller
parcels with a transition from agriculture to non-agriculture, it would set a precedent. He
further discussed some of the agricultural and open space uses surrounding the subject
property.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara asked if the modification to Ag1-1.1 with regard to prime
farmland soils would in any way impact this decision. Consultant Strong responded that
proposed policies of the General Plan Update do not apply until they're adopted. City
Attorney Carmel explained that the policy comes into effect when it is adopted which
would be simultaneously with the adoption of the new land designations.
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Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara asked Consultant Strong to display the map depicting the area
and expressed concerns with creating a domino effect by converting agricultural land.
He stated he did not favor a change in land use designation; however, if the Council was
moving in that direction, he would ask there be some consideration for Single Family Low
Density. He stated this would be a good compromise.
Council Member Lubin stated he had considered both sides of the issue and it appeared
that if the Council was moving in the direction of reclassification to residential, one of the
things to accomplish was maintaining the City's rural atmosphere. He stated it appeared
appropriate to have the beginning of some buffering in terms of residential. He agreed
with Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara that it was appropriate to lower the density and supported
classifying the property as Low Density (1 unit/acre).
Consultant Strong explained the current residential zoning classifications and then gave
an overview of the proposed residential zoning classifications.
Council Member Dickens referred back to the public workshops in 1998 and stated that
the community overwhelmingly opposed the conversion of agriculture to low-density
development. He read from an ad the farmers took out in the newspaper opposing
development on prime farmlands. He further read a portion of a 1998 letter from
Lorraine and Leroy Saratari regarding zoning regulations and restrictions that property
owners must comply with and opposing any change in zoning designations. He
concluded by stating he could not support conversion of agriculture to residential.
Council Member Runels asked the Mayor if the Council was going to move forward to
give some direction on the matter. Mayor Lady said yes.
Council Member Runels stated he would like to see Medium Density (4.5 units per
acre); however, he stated it appeared from the discussion that there was more
support for Medium-Low Density which would be 2.5 units per acre.
Mayor Lady stated he could support the Medium-Low Density (2.5 units per acre).
Council Member Lubin stated he would support Low Density (1 unit per acre). He
stated this was a transitional area and it should be built out properly.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara stated that he could not support the density that the Mayor
was proposing.
Council Member Runels referred back to the Low Density classification (1 unit per
acre) for discussion. Mayor Lady stated that density was not what he had envisioned
for the property.
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Council Member Lubin stated it was not a proper location for a higher density
classification, and that it was more of a rural area that he did want to see urbanized.
He stated that one-acre lots would be more appropriate for this area.
Mayor Lady commented that based on the discussion, there was no consensus on
either the Low-Medium (2.5 units per acre) or the Low Density (1 unit per acre)
classification.
Council Member Lubin commented he thought if no consensus was reached, then it
would stay, as is, a 5-acre Agriculture parcel.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara stated he would support that.
Mayor Lady inquired of Council Member Lubin whether he had made a suggestion of
2 units per acre.
Council Member Lubin stated that would still be half acre lots, similar to Rancho
Grande, and that would be too much for that area.
Mayor Lady commented on the difference in topography between the two locations.
Council Member Runels referred back to Council Member Lubin's suggestion of one
unit per acre and giving the applicant the option of saying whether he wants to do
something with the property or not.
Mayor Lady stated he would support it.
Following further Council comments, consensus was reached by a majority of the
Council Members for conversion of the parcel from Agriculture to Low Density Single
Family Residential (1 unit per acre).
Mayor Lady referred to Land Use Study Area 7Eb - East Myrtle, East Cherry and East
Cherry Extension East of Noguera Place and South of Arroyo Grande Creek, including
Lierly Lane.
Council Member Dickens declared a conflict of interest due to property ownership and
stepped down from the dais.
Consultant Strong reviewed the Planning Commission's recommendation to reclassify
from Residential Rural to Single Family Residential, Medium Density (SFR-MD), subject
to a requirement for a neighborhood plan to coordinate infrastructure improvements and
providing for an agriculture buffer to the southeast and Conservation/Open Space along
Arroyo Grande Creek to the north and east.
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Mayor Lady stated he could support that recommendation. Following discussion, it was
determined that consensus had already been reached on this land use area, and there
was no change.
Council Member Dickens returned to the dais.
Mayor Pro Tem Ferrara referred to Land Use Study Area 2 - Rancho Grande at Noyes
Road and requested reducing the density due to potential encroachment on the hillside.
He stated he would not favor a retaining wall on Noyes Road and due to the geophysical
constraints of the area, 35 units is much too dense.
Discussion ensued with regard to Environmental Impact Reports (EIRs) and the nature
and topographical features of the area. Council Member Lubin and Mayor Lady shared
concerns expressed by Mayor Pro Tern Ferrara; however, the stated designation allows
"up to" a maximum of 35 units and the EIR would address environmental issues with
regard to the property and the Council could make a determination with regard to the
number of units. Council Member Runels agreed. Following discussion, there was
majority consensus to leave the classification as Planned Development (PD) designation
allowing up to 35 dwelling units.
Council Member Runels referred to the Circulation Element, Objective CT2 and asked for
further clarification and explanation.
Consultant Strong referred to the first page of the Circulation Element, Objective CT2
and explained that policies CT2-1, CT2-2, CT2-3, and CT2-4 identify future evaluations
and considerations and what happens if it is impossible to attain or maintain LOS 'C' in
the future. He explained that Policy CT2-4 suggests the City should periodically review
the LOS policy and actual system performance to identify model deficiencies and
consider programs, mitigation measures and/or policy revision and refinement.
6. AUTHORIZATION TO CONTRACT FOR TELEVISING THE CITY COUNCIL
MEETING ON OCTOBER 9. 2001
Staff recommended the Council authorize the City Manager to contract for services and
allocate $600 for televising the City Council Meeting on October 9, 2001, if adoption of
the General Plan is continued to that meeting.
Council Member Lubin moved to authorize the City Manager to contract for services and
allocate $600 for televising the City Council Meeting on October 9, 2001, if adoption of
the General Plan is continued to that meeting. Mayor Pro Tern Ferrara seconded the
motion. The motion passed 4-1 by voice vote, with Council Member Runels dissenting.
7. ADJOURNMENT
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The meeting was adjourned to the Regular City Council Meeting of Tuesday, October 9,
2001 at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, 215 East Branch Street. Mayor Lady
adjourned the meeting at 11 :55 p.m. in memory of Karl Hogan, a former member of the
Arroyo Grande City Council from 1980 to 1984.
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Attest:
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Kelly We or, , Director of Administrative Servicesl
Deputy City lerk