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REGULAR ADJOURNED CITY COUNCIL MEETING
WEDNESDAY, APRIL 25, 1990
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 215 EAST BRANCH STREET
ARROYO GRANDE, CALIFORNIA
The city Council met at 7:30 P.M., with Mayor Mark M. Millis
presiding. Present were Council Members A.K. "Pete" Dougall,
Gene Moots, Doris Olsen and B'Ann smith.
Also prsent were Planning Director Doreen Liberto-Blanck, Long
Range Planner Sandy Bierdzinski, city Manager Chris Christiansen,
city Attorney Judy Skousen and Deputy City Clerk Marylue Shoemaker.
Mayor Millis opened the meeting and read a short statement
announcing that the bridge had been opened at 5:00 P.M. today. On
behalf of the city Council and himself he thanked Paul Karp, Fred
Schott and all of the men who worked on the structure.
The purpose of the meeting was to deal with the General Plan
Update. city Attorney Skousen pointed out to the Council Members,
audience and general public that the General Plan does affect the
entire city. She also explained that because of a possible
conflict of interest, it is important that on each issue the
Council Members consider whether or not their principal place of
residence is within 300 feet of the property being discussed in
that issue, or their property owned for business purposes is within
2500 feet.
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Council Member Dougall asked if distance was the only problem
or if financial circumstances are involved. city Attorney Skousen
said that financial implications must be considered.
1. Village Commercial Uses (reference to property located at 138
Short Street, Billie Swigert - Conditional Use Permit 89-466).
Mayor Millis opened the hearing to the public. When no one came
forward to speak Mayor Millis closed the hearing. After discussion
it was moved by smith/Dougall and the motion carried to revise the
Village commercial category to allow single historic residential
structures.
Mayor Millis opened the public hearing regarding Conditional
Use Permit 89-466, Billie swigert, 138 Short Street.
BILLIE SWIGERT spoke regarding the garage dimensions and
affirmed that wood siding would be used. She assured the Council
that the windows will not be unsightly and will not be aluminum,
modernistic looking windows. She said they will tie into the looks
of the place.
When no one else came forward to speak Mayor Millis closed the
hearing to the public.
After discussion it was moved by smith/Dougall (5-0-0, Smith,
Dougall, Moots, Olsen and Millis voting aye) to approve Resolution
No. 2387 approving Conditional Use Permit Case No. 89-466 for
expansion of an existing non-conforming use, adopting a negative
declaration and instructing the City Clerk to file a Notice of
Determination.
It was moved by Smith/Dougall and the motion carried to
approve Architectural Review Case No. 89-439.
2. Planning Commission Recommendations on Changes to the Text of
the General Plan Document and Existing setting and Community Issues
Report and the Land Use Element Map.
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a. Selection of lower density alternative.
Planning Director Doreen Liberto-Blanck explained the
lower density alternative to the Council and advised that the
planning Commission had adopted 5.0 single family dwelling units
per acre. After discussion the Council agreed to the lower density
alternative with the modification of 4.5 single family dwelling
uni ts per acre. '
It was moved by Moots/Olsen and the motion carried to adopt
the lower density alternative with the modification.
b. How density is calculated on individual parcels.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that the General Plan
classification specifies the maximum density allowed per growth
acre, including streets and right of way that would revert to the
property owner if abandoned. She said that this is just clarifying
the language and putting it in the text of the Land Use Element.
It was moved by Smith/Dougall and the motion carried to
approve Item b.
c. Renaming Hillside Residential (1 du/ac) category to Rural
Residential.
Long Range Planner Sandy Bierdzinski reported that this is
basically renaming and the category would not change other than
allowing the keeping of animals on one acre lots.
It was moved by Dougall/Smith and the motion carried to
approve the renaming of Hillside Residential to Rural Residential.
d. New residential category - Hillside Residential with a
density of 1 du/1.5 acres.
Planning director Liberto-Blanck told the Council that the
property involved was designated for agriculture but could be
divided down to 1.5 acres. The Planning Commission said that it
should be Residential Hillside, 1 dwelling unit to 1.5 acres, which
is the same as it currently is on the existing General Plan.
Because of a possible conflict of interest Mayor Millis
stepped down.
It was moved by Dougall/Olsen and the motion passed, with
Mayor Millis not voting, to approve the New Residential Category.
e. Land owned by the Lucia Mar Unified school District was
designated for public facility rather than agriculture.
Long Range Planner Bierdzinski referred to a map showing a
long, narrow piece of land near the Arroyo Grande High School. She
said that the land was designated Agriculture and the school was
given a PF designation, Public Facility. She said that it made
sense to show that sliver of land aS,PF also.
It was moved by Moots/Olsen and the motion carried, with Mayor
Millis not voting, to change the designation to PF.
Mayor Millis returned to the dias.
f. Policy requesting the investigation of a Sphere of
Influence Study in place of, or in conjunction with the Arroyo
Grande Fringe study.
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Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that the Planning
commission felt that the City might want to consider a Sphere of
Influence Study in conjunction with the Fringe Study, due to some
concerns that the City protect that area within its fringe area.
After discussion it was moved by smith/Dougall and the motion
carried to request a Sphere of Influence study in place of a Fringe
Study.
g. positive language regarding annexations.
Planning Director Liberto-Blank explained that this involves
minor wording changes only. It was moved by Smith/Dougall and the
motion carried to accept the language changes.
h. criteria for determining economic viability of
agricultural land (LUE policy 1.2 d. and e.). options to resolve
potential misunderstanding:
(1) Subsection "d" could be deleted.
(2) Subsection "d" could be rewritten
Long Range Planner Bierdzinski said that subsection "d" could
be deleted and the policy would continue to restrict land use
within commercially viable agricultural areas. She said that
subsection "d" could be rewritten and the wording for that would
be, "Development and 'other city approval requests which propose to
convert prime agricultural lands to another use shall be
accompanied by an analysis of the long term economic viability of
agriculture on the lands proposed for conversion."
After discussion and questions of staff it was moved by
Moots/Smith and the motion carried to approve the rewriting.
i. Senior housing uses in multifamily, public facility, and
commercial categories.
Long Range Planner Bierdzinski said that the Planning
commission is recommending that the senior housing category include
several different types of senior uses, including independent
living uses such as apartments. It would also include retirement
care, conv~lescent care and residential care facilities. She said
. that the density assigned to this category is 11 dwelling units per
acre for the apartments unless at least 25% of the total units are
reserved for low and moderate income residents. The density for
the other type of uses would be 25 dwelling units per acre. She
said that these are maximum densities and do not necessarily have
to be approved.
After discussion it was moved by Moots/Dougall and the motion
carried to approve the Planning Commission's recommendation.
j. Alder House and McMullen's Senior Care facilities
designated for Senior Housing.
It was moved by smith/Dougall and after discussion, the motion
carried to approve item J.
k. policy regarding Planned unit Developments (PUD)
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck explained that the Planning
commission wanted to put something into the General Plan that would
permit Planned unit Development. She said that there was the
optional Design Standard before.
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It was moved by Moots/Dougall and the motion carried to
approve the Policy.
l. Revisions to the Housing Element in accordance with the
Department of Housing and community Development's letter.
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Long Range Planner Bierdzinski referred to a letter from the
Department of Housing and Community Development in which they
requested information regarding the proposed' land use element
update, a breakdown of land use categories and the second unit
ordinance. She said the letter indicates that the analysis of the
city's policies may be too restrictive.
Council Member Dougall asked if these are requirements. Ms.
Bierdzinski replied that they are just suggestions and after the
revision the Housing Element will be submitted to HCD.
After discussion is was moved by smith/Dougall and the motion
carried to approve Revisions to the Housing Element, item l.
m. Removal of Highway Tourist category and absorption of uses
into General Commercial category.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck told the council that the
Planning commission realized that there was a very small area in
the city left for designation as Highway Tourist category and
suggested the using the umbrella of General Commercial until zoned
for particular uses.
It was moved by Smith/Dougall and the motion carried to
approve the Removal of Highway Tourist category and absorption of
uses into General commercial category.
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n. Area near the intersection of poplar and Juniper Streets
designated for Condominium/Townhouse (MF - 9 du/ac) rather than
single Family.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck reported.that because of so
many letters and verbal comments the Planning commission felt that
it would be better if the area was designated
condominium/Townhouse.
BURT JOHNSON, representing Kawaoka Farms spoke against the
plan saying that there is no compatibility between
condominiums/apartments and 4.5 units to the acre or large lot
residential.
After discussion it was moved by Moots/Dougall and the motion
carried to approve the designation as Condominium/Townhouse.
o. Portion of a parcel near El Camino Real changed from
Industrial to condominium/Townhouse (MF - 9 du/ac).
Long Range Planner Bierdzinski showed the parcel on the map
and said that the owner had requested that it be shown as
Condominium/Townhouse category since the existing zoning is R-2.
She said that the Planning Commission had drawn a line to reflect
the existing boundary between the industrial category and the
multiple family category.
After discussion it was moved by Smith/Moots and the motion
carried to approve the change.
p. Area at the corner of Brisco Road and Grand Avenue
designated for General Commercial rather than Office Professional.
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Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that a portion of the
corner is designated for commercial and another for industrial.
She said that the consultant felt it would be more appropriate for
general commercial and the property owner has agreed to that.
It was moved by Moots/Dougall and the motion carried to
approve Staff recommendation on item P.
q. six parcels on the east side of Alder Street south of
Alder House designated for Condominium/Townhouse (MF - 9 du/ac)
rather than Single Family.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck reported that the Planning
Commission recommended that the designation be changed to
Condominium/Townhouse.
After discussion it was moved by DougalljMoots (2-3-0, Council
Members Dougall and Moots voting aye and Council Members Smith,
Olsen and Mayor Millis voting no) and the motion failed to change
the designation.
After additional discussion it was moved by smith/Olsen and
the motion carried to deny the designation of
Condominium/Townhouse.
r. Mr. Carlson's property (surrounded by the Rancho Grande
development) designated for Rural Residential (1 du/ac) rather than
Agriculture. . .
planning Director Liberto-Blanck explained that the property
is a two acre island within the Rancho Grande development and that
the property is not suitable for agriculture. She said that the
owner would like a higher density designation also.
It was moved by Moots/Smith and the motion carried to
designate Mr. Carlson's property Rural Residential.
s. Boundaries of the Village Commercial area extended south
of Arroyo Grande Creek to include the area along Bridge Street and
Nelson street.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck told the Council that the
Planning Commission had recommended that the area be extended
. because the Union property in that area is dissected with a portion
of it General Commercial and another portion Village Commercial.
EARL PATTON spoke against the issue saying that he wants his
property to remain residential so he can build a home for his
mother.
After discussion it was moved by Dougall/Moots and the motion
carried to extend the Village Commercial area but excluding Mr.
Patton's property.
t. Methodist Campground designated for Public Facility rather
than Planned Development.
Long Range Planner Bierdzinski said that the recommendation
is that the property be designated for Public Facility and that
category would allow camp grounds. '
It was moved by Olsen/Smith and the motion carried to approve
Staff recommendation.
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u. Area west of Tally Ho Creek originally proposed for
Residential Estate designated for either Rural Residential (1
du/ac) or Hillside Residential (1 du/L 5 ac).
Long Range Planner Bierdzinski referred to a map of the
property and said that several of the ,property owners protested the
designation of Residential Estate. She said that the Planning
Commission directed staff to come back with designations that were
more in keeping with the actual densities.
Council Member Olsen left the room because of a possible
conflict of interest.
It was moved by Dougall/smith and the motion carried, with
Council Member Olsen not voting to approve the designation of Rural
Residential and Hillside Residential.
council Member Olsen returned to the dias.
v. Property at l20 Corbett Canyon Road (next to Arroyo Grande
Hall Association building) designated for Single Family (5 du/ac)
rather than Public Facilities.
It was moved by smith/Dougall and the motion carried to
approve the designation as Single Family.
w. Southeast corner of East Cherry and Traffic Way designated
for General Commercial rather than Agriculture.
Long Range Planner Bierdzinski said that the property was
originally zoned as Agriculture and the request was to zone it as
Commercial. She said that there are two parcels involved and that
there would be two different zones on one parcel, General
Commercial and Agricultural.
It was moved by smithjMoots and the motion carried to
designate the property General Commercial.
x. 536 East Cherry designated for Single Family (5 du/ac)
rather than Agriculture.
City Manager Christiansen advised that the property is just
under 1/2 acre. Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that the
Planning commission looked at it and said that it is not viable for
agriculture.
After discussion it was moved by Dougall/Olsen and the motion
carried to accept staff recommendation on item x.
y. Area between Myrtle and East cherry Avenues designated
for Rural Residential (1 dU/l.5 ac). rather than Agriculture.
MRS. ALBERT STILWELL, of 734 Myrtle Street, said she owns a
lot between the creek and Myrtle Street. She asked that the
property be designated Single Family.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that the Planning
Commission recommended that the entire area be designated Rural
Residential.
City Attorney Judy Skousen said, that it could be conditionally
zoned single family, with the condition that only 2 dwelling units
are allowed.
After discussion it was moved by Olsen/Dougall and the motion
carried to approve the Rural Residential designation with
conditions.
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z. Property near pearwood and Oak Hill Road designated for
Hillside Residential (1 du/l.5 ac) rather than Residential Suburban
(2.5 du/ac).
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that originally the
consultants proposed 2.5 dwelling units per acre to reflect the
surrounding density but the Planning Commission was concerned about
the topography of the area and is recommending Hillside
Residential.
After discussion it was moved by Olsen/Dougall and the motion
carried to approve the designation of Hillside Residential.
aa. Policy regarding transfer of development rights on non-
prime agricultural land.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck explained the transfer
policy. She said that if there is a piece of non-prime
agricultural land that an owner wants to develop and is concerned
about the water, the city would require that they purchase
development rights of an equal or greater amount of prime
agricultural land some place else or adjacent to the city and then
they could use that water.
After questions of staff and discussion it was moved by
Dougall/Olsen and the motion carried to have staff rewrite the
policy so that it is clearer.
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bb. Planning Commission responses to letters 1 - 76, and
verbal comments A - MMM. Indicate if there is any disagreement
with recommendations.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck recommended that the letters
and Items 3 and 4 be taken last because there will be discussion
of the letters.
Mayor Millis asked the Council if they wished to break until
another time or continue. After discussion the Council said they
would continue after a short recess.
Council Member smith suggested that the council hear the
letters from the people still remaining in the audience.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that the first letter
would be letter #89 from HOLLY ZIEGLER.
Ms. Ziegler said that the letter was a request to be able to
maintain and improve the property at 1110 Sunset Drive, which is
non-conforming, and to rebuild in case of a disaster. She said
that she is not asking for anything other than that which is
already existing.
City Attorney Skousen advised that this could come under
Conditional Zoning, and the conditions would be such that only
those existing residences could be rebuilt.
After discussion it was moved by smithjMoots and the motion
carried to approve Ms. Zieglers request.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that the next two
letters, 93a and 93b, are from Carl's Jr.
PAUL MITCHELL, representing Carl's Jr. reported on studies of
emissions from cars and said that idling cars emit less than a
vehicle which is turned off and then restarted. He suggested that
the city do a study to verify this.
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Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that she had talked with
the Air Pollution Control Board and they indicated that drive-
through restaurants attract 3 to 5 times more vehicles and that is
where the concerns are for the air quality. She said they
indicated that they would be happy to talk to the Council.
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After discussion the Council.decided to continue the item to
a future date.
JOHN ROBERTSON, letter #76, said that he would like to have
senior housing on his property at Spruce and Ash streets. .
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that currently he has
medium-high density and the new general plan is proposing 9
dwelling units per acre and this would permit senior housing.
Mr. Robertson said that he was hoping for 11 dwelling units
per acre.
After discussion it was moved by smith/Olsen and the motion
carried to accept staff's recommendation of 9 dwelling units per
acre.
5. Industrial category rewording.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck referred to the April 24,
1990 staff report and said that the wording should take care of the
concerns the Council had at the last meeting regarding existing
industrial uses.
It was moved by smith/Dougall and the motion carried to
approve the rewording described by the Planning Director.
6. Strawberry fields off of Grand Avenue and Oak Park.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck referred to numerous letters
received regarding the strawberry fields and said that property
owners would like to see a designation other than agriculture. She
said that the Planning Commission would like to see it remain in
agriculture.
BURT JOHNSON, referred to a zoning map and said that
everything surrounding the property is either an R-2, R-1, or R-3
zone with the exception of the commercial property which is on
Grand Ave. He said that in order to be consistent the zoning
should be residential.
He also questioned a specific plan as opposed to the general
plan.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said that a specific plan is
clearly described in the government code and is a tool to implement
the general plan. She said that general plan designations are
provided and when you want to develop it you come in with a
specific plan showing where the roads are going and exactly where
the housing units are going. She said it is a well planned
community, financing must be shown, and even the architecture.
Mayor Millis said that the Council has to look at all four
parcels and that somehow the property owners have to cooperate
because of interior streets which will affect one another, drainage
issues and all sort of reasons.
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After additional discussion it was moved by Olsen/Smith and
the motion carried to accept the staff's recommendation of
commercial, single family and rural residential designations with
a specific plan.
Mayor Millis suggested that the meeting be adjourned to
another time. It was moved by Olsen/Smith and the motion carried
to adjourn to Monday, April 30, 1990 at 7:30 P.M.
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