Minutes 1995-04-25
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REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, APRIL 25, 1995
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 215 EAST BRANCH STREET
ARROYO GRANDE, CALIFORNIA
The City Council of the City of Arroyo Grande met at 7:30 P.M. with
Mayor A. K. "Pete" Dougall presiding.
1. AND 2. FLAG SALUTE AND INVOCATION
Arroyo Grande Post 136 of the American Legion, Chuck Comstock
led the Pledge of Allegiance to our flag. Mayor Dougall delivered
the invocation.
3. ROLL CALL
Present with Mayor Dougall were Council Members Michael
Fuller, Michael Lady and James Souza. council Member Drew Brandy
was absent. Staff members present were Acting City Manager Doreen
Liberto-Blanck, City Attorney Roger Lyon, Interim Public Works
Director John Wallace: Parks and Recreation Director John Keisler,
Finance Director David Bacon and Current Planner Scott Spier ling.
4. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
ALTON JONES, 1189 Flora Road, thanked the Council for
listening to his comments two weeks ago. However, he did have a
few more comments to make. He stated that two years ago he went
into a bank in Santa Maria and asked the manager how business was.
She said "bad". People with money are moving out of California and
taking their money with them. He stated that last week he went
into a bank in Arroyo Grande and asked "how was business?" The
answer was "not good". People with money are taking their money
out of the bank and leaving California. He said this is true and
it is happening because of high taxes, stupid regulations, unfair
laws, and infringement upon private property rights.
Mr. Jones stated that the State of California is taking part
of his property in Arroyo Grande for the state water pipeline. The
compensation for the property is very low because of the value of
the property. Why is the value so low? Mainly, because the Arroyo
Grande city Council has down-zoned their property over the years
time after time. 'l'he council had adhered to the erroneous idea
that it has the right to devalue private property for the public
good. He commented that what the previous Council had done had
hurt him and his family. He stated he had a serious and legitimate
complaint. He further stated that 15% of the people feel that the
government is representing their views according to a survey
completed last Monday. That leaves 85% of the people without
representation. This cannot last in a democratic society. He
suggested that the Council change its philosophy and re-examine all
the radical positions that the previous Council had taken, and take
a more moderate position.
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5. SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
a. Proclamation. "Yangtze River Patrol Association Day,"
April 25. 1995. A proclamation was read by Mayor Dougall
proclaiming April 25, 1995 as a day of recognition honoring the
"Yangtze River Patrol Association". The proclamation was accepted
by President Pitmer.
b. Proclamation. "Arbor DaY." April 28. 1995. Mayor Dougall
read a proclamation designating April 28, 1995 as Arbor Day.
Crystal Watkins and Heidi Simila, students from Paulding Middle
School, and Parks and Recreation Director Keisler received the
proclamation. Mr. Keisler advised that ceremonies will be held at
9:45 a.m. on April 28th at the Paulding Middle School campus. He
stated that six trees will be planted and will enhance the campus
and the community. He invited council, staff and members of the
audience to attend.
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c. Proclamation, "Head start Month," May 1995. Mayor Dougall
read a proclamation proclaiming the month of May, 1995 as "Head
start Month" acknowledging the excellent contributions of this
organization in the community. The proclamation was accepted by
the local Head Start Assistant Director.
6. CONSENT AGENDA.
It was moved by Souza/Lady, and the motion passed unanimously
to approve Consent Agenda Items 6.a. through 6.d., with the
recommended courses of action.
6.a. April 4, 1995, Joint City council and Planning Commission
Minutes. APPROVED
6.b. April 11, 1995, city council Minutes. APPROVED.
6.c. Reversion to Acreage: Case No. 94-519: Parcel Map 94-053: 319
and 351 South Elm street: People's Self Help Housing Corporation.
APPROVED AND ACCEPTED.
6.d. Designation of Planning Director to Make certain
Determinations for Issuance of Alcoholic Beverage Control Licenses
per Section 23958.4 of the Business and Professions Code. APPROVED
DESIGNATION.
7. REGISTER OF CHECKS.
It was moved by Lady/Fuller, and the motion passed unanimously
to approve Cash Disbursements in the amount of $843,497.18, as
listed in the April 20, 1995 staff report of Finance Director
Bacon.
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8. PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION API:?ROVAL THAT
REOUIRES THE DEVELOPMENT OF A ROAD STUB FOR A FUTURE THROUGH STREET
TO ADJACENT UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY TO THE WEST (OWNED BY ED DORFMAN),
AS OPPOSED TO CONSTRUCTING A CUL-DE-SAC STREET AS PROPOSED BY THE
DEVELOPERS: LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT CASE NO. 95-523: 1081 FARROLL
AVENUE: APPELLANT: ED DORFMAN.
Acting City Manager Liberto-Blanck advised that on March 21
1995, the Planning commission approved a Lot Line Adjustment
subject to 31 conditions of approval. Ed Dorfman is appealing
Condi tion Number 16 that requires a redesign of the project to
replace the pr9posed cul-de-sac with a knuckle, looping the street
to the property just west of the project. She stated that Mr.
Spierling will provide an overview of the project and a brief
review of the history of the property.
Current Planner Spierling said that in 1908 the Board of
supervisors approved the map called Beckett's Addition to Oceano.
The map subdivided the area between South Elm Street and South
Halcyon Road and between the Pike and Farroll Avenue. '1.'he
subdivision created blocks comprised of 25 foot wide lots. In
total, 30 blocks, 986 lots and 9 streets were created.
After the tract was recorded, large portions were sold through
metes and bounds descriptions. These descriptions took no notice
of the locations of the lots and blocks, resulting in fragmentation
of many lots. Mr. Spierling stated that through the years, many of
these portions of the original tract were re-subdivided into lots
that conformed with the zoning and general plan designations that
were in effect at the time. However, several large portions of the
original tract along Farroll Avenue that are still in existence
have not developed, and the underlying 25 foot wide lots still
exist.
Mr. spierling advised that on February 7th of this year, the
Planning commission approved an application by the Farroll Road
Group at 1131 Farroll Avenue to resubdivide a portion of this
property. On March 21st of this year, the Planning Commission
approved another lot line adjustment for Larry Gin and Peter Keith.
He stated that the appellant, Ed Dorfman, is appealing Public Works
Condition of Approval Number 16, modified by the Planning
Commission, to require the Gin/Keith project to provide a road stub
that may be extended with future development. Mr. Dorfman owns
property adjacent to the Gin/Keith property and has an interest in
the Farroll Road Group property located at 1131 Farroll Avenue. He
has indicated that he plans to continue the road from the Farroll
Road Group project to his property and then out to Farroll Avenue.
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Mr. Spierling pointed out that Mr. Dorfman's planned road
alignment has been reviewed as a pre-application review, but he has
not formally submitted any applications or received any city
approvals.
Mr. spierling said alternative actions available to the City
Council were to ( 1 ) deny the appeal and uphold the Planning
Commission's action; or (2) uphold the appeal and delete condition
of approval #16.
After being assured that the Public Hearing had been duly
published and all legal requirements met, Mayor Dougall declared
the hearing open and stated that all persons would be heard
regarding the matter.
Mr. Dorfman, 289 LaCresta, Arroyo Grande, stated what they
intend to do is the loop street. He stated the condition placed on
the Gin/Keith project forces unwanted changes to his proposed
project and places the associated costs on him. He said Mr. Gin
and Mr. Keith will get the same number of lots whether they have a
cul-de-sac or a through street. He said they asked the City for a
cul-de-sac because they felt it was better than a through street,
and they knew from our meetings that I would be the one who would
be negatively impacted by the through street. He stated it is
unfair for the City to burden a neighbor with all of the costs and
design impacts to make someone else's property better.
Referring to cul-de-sacs, Mr. Dorfman stated that there are
cul-de-sacs allover the city with varying lengths and, among all
of the cul-de-sacs, there are at least a dozen longer than 500
feet.
Regarding Fire Department and Police Department concerns, Mr.
Dorfman stated that the Staff Advisory Committee did not recommend
to the Planning Commission that there be a through street. One of
the reasons they did not do so was because the Fire Department and
Police Department could work with the alignment. He further stated
that the main possible rationale for connecting the two projects
could be fire and safety, however our staff professionals have not
agreed to or requested the connection be made.
Mr. Dorfman stated that the Planning Department has seen fit
to re-design the project, stating that no lots would be lost.
However, their proposal will take four of the nicest lots designed
to work with specific plans, and replace them with four lots of
minimum size that his plans will not fit on, and add 5,000 or 6,000
feet of pavement and sidewalk.
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Mr. Dorfman introduced John Belsher, his legal counsel, to
talk about some of the issues.
John Belsher spoke on behalf of Mr. Ed Dorfman, stating he
felt that Mr. Dorfman had adequately outlined the planning
considerations that the Council had been asked to take into
account. He referred to a couple of legal issues he had discussed
with the City Attorney. First, Mr. Belsher stated this was a lot
line adjustment and was a different matter than a subdivision map
or conditional use permit, in that there is only limited discretion
in conditioning projects. He said, generally, in lot line
adjustments there are limitations on what the property owner can
achieve, and there are limitations on the type of conditions and
the extent of conditions that the City can require. He said in
this case, the findings the Council is being asked to approve would
require finding that this condition of a through street is
necessary and desirable. He said "necessary" is more of a factual
determination; is it necessary to facilitate the relocation of
existing easements?
Mr. Belsher pointed out that the paper streets that exist on
Mr. Dorfman's project and on the Gin/Keith project do not exist.
He said they may exist as private easements, but the streets shown
on the diagram were abandoned in 1925, and there are no easements
to relocate. He said there are private easements that exist
because the map was recorded, but a government does not have the
power to relocate those private easements and the lot line
adjustment process is not about relocating easements. He said
those easements were abandoned in 1925 and it is as if we are
starting with no streets on these properties. He said the cul-de-
sacs adequately addressed circulation for the Gin and Keith
project. He said Mr. Dorfman is going to have to adequately
address circulation when he comes back to the Council on his
project and, hopefully, the master plan that was presented long ago
on the 10 acres will be sufficient. He suggested that there is a
very narrow limit on the conditions that can be placed on a lot
line adjustment. He said the Council has to make it necessary to
relocate an easement, a water line easement or other utility line
easement and there are not any existing such easements to
relocate, so that finding could not be made. He said their
analysis showed that drainage will not necessarily go over this
proposed knuckle connection but would pass over naturally about
where Lot 12 is on the chart.
He stated it is Mr. Dorfman's feelings that putting that
street alignment in there puts a burden on his project in terms of
project design and it also impacts property values.
Steve Cool, Attorney representing Larry Gin and Peter Keith,
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stated when Mr. Keith and Mr. Gin brought their project to the
Planning commission, at the staff's request, they presented it in
the alternative with the cul-de-sac as one alternative and the
knuckle as the other alternative. He said Mr. Keith and Mr. Gin -
expressed to the Commission that they would do it either way, but
they felt that the cul-de-sac was the better proposal because they
thought it made a better neighborhood. He said the Commission
decided in favor of the knuckle concept. He stated his clients'
position is still the same, and that is they would prefer, as the
developers, to do the cul-de-sac because they still feel that would
be a better use of the property and a better layout for the
neighborhood. However, again, they are willing to do it either way
and they are not objecting to the condition and they are not
appealing tonight.
Mark Vasquez, acting as agent for one of the property owners
nearby, Mr. Alan Del Rio at 1075 Farroll Road, stated Mr. Del Rio
would like to see the Planning Commission approval upheld. Mr.
Vasquez said the property is owned jointly by Mr. Del Rio and his
mother, and they seem to favor the knuckle for circulation. He
said the main thing they are concerned about is that the drainage
and traffic issues are adequately addressed by the city.
Hearing no further comments from the audience, Mayor Dougall
declared the hearing closed.
Council Member Lady stated he had spoke to both the Fire Chief
and Police Chief and they indicated they have no problem with the
cul-de-sac and, in light of that and in reviewing all of the
information, and having an opportunity to speak with Mr. Dorfman,
he could not find adequate argument to do anything other than
uphold the appeal.
Council Member Souza stated he agreed with Council Member Lady
that the Police and Fire issues are the most important. Beyond
that, he stated he tried to look at this as a resident of that
neighborhood, assuming it was built. He said with the Planning
commission version, he could see more of a potential for a race
track type atmosphere. He said with a cul-de-sac, he felt it would
be more of a potential for a calmer neighborhood and a better place
to live. He said he could see no reason not to let Mr. Dorfman and
Mr. Gin and Mr. Keith have their choice of the cul-de-sac.
Council Member Fuller stated he felt a cul-de-sac does make
for a more quiet and safer street. He said if this type of street
meets fire and police conditions and, obviously, the drainage will
work, he didn't feel it would be necessary to require the knuckle.
Mayor Dougall stated that in looking at this from an overall
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City standpoint, he felt the City has enough streets in the City
that go nowhere. However, he stated he didn't have any ma jor
arguments over the knuckle vs. the cul-de-sac, other than he would
like to see streets that do something rather than just end up as a
dead end. Other than his circulation concerns, Mayor Dougall
stated his main concern was the drainage and, as previously stated,
he does not want to see any more water being pumped down Farroll
Avenue into the creek. He stated it was his understanding that
this project will alleviate this problem in some manner.
Interim Public Works Director Wallace spoke with regard to
drainage concerns. He advised there is a staged drainage
improvement program proposed. He said there would be a temporary
basin put on the Gin/Keith project that would eventually be
connected into a drainage easement and a storm drainage system
going across the property and tie in eventually to Farroll Avenue
out front across the Farroll Avenue Group property. Mayor Dougall
stated that over and above the circulation, his main concern is the
disruption to the residents on Diana Place and down Farroll and Elm
Street when the City puts pipes down there to pump water. Mr.
Wallace advised that is subject toa separate project being worked
on now with an another developer. He stated arrangements have been
made with the Von's Market people to help take care of that system.
After further discussion, it was moved by FUller/Lady (4-0-1,
Fuller, Lady, Souza and Dougall voting aye, Brandy absent) to
approve Resolution No. 3071 Upholding the Appeal to Delete
Condition of Approval No. 16 of Lot Line Adjustment Case No. 95-
523, 1081 Farroll Avenue.
9. A. UPDATE ON GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES; FINANCE
DIRECTOR
Finance Director Bacon advised there are no dramatic changes
in the report from last month. He stated that on the third page of
the report he projected that expenditures are going to be under
budget if the city stays on the same course it is on right now. He
said if the City stays on the same course it is on between now and
. June 30th it will actually see some solid dollars underneath budget
on the expenses side. He said projected operating reserves for
June 30, 1995, are $467,749.
9.B. REPORT/UPDATE ON SWINGING BRIDGE
Interim Public Works Director John Wallace referred to the
staff report and schedule from the contractor showing the overall
predicted schedule of the construction of the bridge. He stated
the official contract termination date is June 3rd; the
contractor's schedule shows the contract termination date as June
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1st. Mr. Wallace said in order to complete the bridge before the
Strawberry Festival, the contractor would have to pull about five
calendar days out of his schedule. Mr. Wallace said there is a
critical item, pressure treated wood, scheduled to arrive on May
7th, and the contractor won't know how the rest of the schedule
fits together until he actually receives that pressure treated
wood.
John Clark, 224 MCKinley, reviewed his recent meeting with the
contractor, and commented on the strawberry Festival plans. He
asked that the contractor be extended a couple of extra days by the
City, if necessary, so that they will not be working on the bridge
during the Strawberry Festival.
9.C. UPDATE ON ANNEXATION PROPOSALS: LAFCO
Acting City Manager Liberto-Blanck reviewed the memo dated
April 25, 1995 regarding the April 20th LAFCO Meeting. She advised
that discussion was held on a Sphere of Influence proposal for Paso
Robles similar to the Frederick's proposal. She said LAFCO also
considered adoption of Standards for Sphere of Influence
amendments. She stated she submitted a letter to LAFCO opposing
the inclusion of the three Standards. The cities of San Luis
Obispo, Pismo Beach and Paso Robles also opposed adoption of the
Standards. She said the motion to adopt thE:! three Standards
failed, however, another motion was made requesting that Standard
No. 14 be required as part of a Sphere of Influence application
review. She said this motion was approved. Mayor Dougall stated
he also attended that meeting and was disappointed in the outcome
of that decision.
lO.A. REOUEST BY DAVID RYAL. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. PISMO BEACH
CHAMBER OF COMMERCE: PROPOSED CENTRAL COAST REGIONAL TECHNOLOGY
ALLIANCE (RTA)
David Ryal stated he is Executive Director of the pismo Beach
Chamber of Commerce, however is addressing the Council tonight as
an official representative of the formation committee for the
Central Coast Regional Technology Alliance.
. Mr. Ryal referred to his letter dated April 12, 1995 and the
attached supporting documentation regarding the proposed Central
Coast Regional Technology Alliance. He stated that the Regional
Technology Alliance has been designed by the government to be the
sole agency by which businesses, industries and communities can
access defense conversion dollars.
After a brief review of the proposal, Mr. Ryal requested that
the Arroyo Grande City Council adopt a resolution supporting the
Regional Technology Alliance concept for inclusion in the proposal
being prepared for submission to the State of California on May B,
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1995.
The Council Members discussed the proposed RTA. Acting city
Manager Liberto-Blanck read the title of a resolution supporting
the RTA concept. It was moved by Souza/Lady, (4-0-1, Lady, Fuller,
Souza and Dougall voting aye) to approve Resolution No. 3072
supporting the RTA concept.
~ 10.B. MODIFICATION TO ALIGNME~STUDY; EL CAMPO ROAD INTERCHANGE
ALTERNATIVE
Acting City Manager Liberto-Blanck referred to the staff
report dated April 25, 1995 outlining the request to amend the
contract with Omni-Means to conduct an additional analysis on the
EI Campo Road Interchange alternative. She advised the additional
cost of $7,770 would be paid from SLOCOG allocated Urban SHA and
Regional SHA funds.
On a motion by Lady/Fuller, motion carried unanimously,
authorizing the Mayor to sign the proposed amendment to the
contract with Omni-Means to conduct an additional analysis on the
EI Campo Road Interchange alternative.
10.C. DIRECTION TO COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS' REPRESENTATIVE COUNCIL
MEMBER MIKE LADY. REGARDIN~ENDING MATT~
Council Member Lady stated that at the last meeting there were
some items regarding the "supervote" that have created quite a
controversy recently, primarily to do with the Highway 41
realignment in the Atascadero area. He said information was
distributed before the meeting tonight and advised that a meeting
was held this morning with Ron Dicarli, Executive Director of the
Council of Governments, when a few of these issues were discussed.
He said it was their feeling that, rather than take any items into
consideration for voting or any position of the city of Arroyo
Grande this evening, it would be better to provide this information
for review, and at the next Council meeting give direction to COG
as to the position of the City. Council Member Lady briefly
outlined the three major issues to be discussed at the next Council
meeting in order to provide some direction on the City's position.
II.A. REPORTS FROM VARIOUS COMMITTEES
1. South San Luis Obispo County Sani tatior) District. Mayor
Dougall reported that the District is still tangling through the
Grover Beach annexation, and into the usual maintenance of budget
items, and things are running very good down at the Sanitation
District thanks to John and Chuck Ellison.
2. South County Area Transit. Council Member Lady advised that
the meeting that was scheduled for the past Monday was re-scheduled
for Monday, May 22nd.
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3. Council of Governments ( COG) . Council Member Lady stated
there was nothing significant to report other than what was
discussed earlier this evening.
4. and 10. Integrated Waste Management Authority (IWMA) Board and
Air Pollution Control Board. Council Member Fuller advised the
Integrated Waste Management Authority had not met since the last
report.
He said the Air Pollution Control Board was reviewing Rule
901, Trip Reduction Plan, and Rule 423, which is a Motor Vehicle
and Mobile Equipment Coding Operations. He said basically, it is
just to amend that rule that governs painting operations and as new
technology comes out this rule gets amended every few years to try
to take advantage of some of the new equipment.
5. Zone 3 Water Advisory Committee. A written report from
Council Member Brandy, dated April 5, 1995, was distributed to the
Council earlier this evening.
6. County Water Resources Advisory Committee.
No report.
7. Long-Range Plan Update Committee. Council Member Souza
advised that the Long-Range Planning Committee will meet April 26,
1995, and Mr. Wallace will be attending and give a presentation on
Public Works issues.
8. Chamber of Commerce Economic Development Committee. council
Member Souza stated this committee is going to meet next month, and
a strategy session will be held looking at the old plan and,
hopefully, looking at creating some new things this summer.
9. Coordinated Agriculture Support Program (CASP). Acting City
Manager Liberto-Blanck stated she talked to David Hayes with the
State yesterday, and the city is waiting to receive a summary of
CASP from Steve McGary, who is in Idaho. She said after that
information is received the City can proceed with the public
hearings.
12. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS.
1. Staff report from Ron De Carli distributed by council
Member Lady on Item 10(c).
2. Memo from John Belsher regarding Agenda Item 8.a.
13. ORAL COMMUNICATION~
None
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14. ADJOURNMEN'r
It was moved by Lady/Fuller, and the motion passed unanimously
to adjourn the meeting at 9:15 P. M.
ATTEST:
PEARL
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