Minutes 1995-08-08
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MINUTES
REGULAR MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
TUESDAY, AUGUST 8, 1995
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS, 215 EAST BRANCH STREET
ARROYO GRANDE, CALIFORNIA
The City Council of the City of Arroyo Grande met at 7:30 p.m.,
with Mayor A. K. "Pete" Dougall presiding.
1. AND 2. FLAG SALUTE AND INVOGATION
Wayne Dempster of the Knights of Columbus, Arroyo Grande Council
No. 1375, led the Pledge of Allegiance to Our Flag. The Rev.
Franklin Scott of First United Methodist Church delivered the
invocation. Mayor Dougall presented a letter of appreciation on
behalf of himself and the Council to Mr. Dempster for leading the
Flag Salute.
3. ROLL CALL
Present with Mayor Dougall were Council Members Drew Brandy,
Michael Fuller and Michael Lady. Mayor Pro Tern James Souza was
absent. Staff members present were City Manager Bob Hunt, City
Attorney Roger Lyon, City Clerk Nancy Davis, Planning Director
Doreen Liberto-Blanck, Current Planner Scott Spierling, Public
Works Director John Wallace, Parks and Recreation Director John
Keisler and Chief of Police Rick TerBorch.
4. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
REYNOLDS RITCHIE, 271 Traffic Way, spoke about his appeal (Agenda
Item 6.a.), and City Attorney Lyon said the remarks were directly
related to the hearing on the sign. He recommended that they be
made a part of that public hearing.
5. CONSENT AGENDA
It was moved by Lady/Brandy, and the motion passed unanimously to
approve Consent Agenda Items 5.a. through 5.f., with the
recommended courses of action, including the revision to 5.d.
5.a. July 25, 1995, City Council Minutes. Approved.
5.b. July, 1995, Investment Report. Received and Filed.
5.c. Harvest Festival Banners. Purchase of two banners approved.
5.d. Opposition to AB 1164/SB 1257: Limitation of Local Authority
Regarding Rent Control. Since Governor Pete Wilson signed AD
1164 on August 3, 1995, and SB 1257 was in the Assembly Housing
and Community Development Committee, staff recommended the City
Council write a letter to Assemblyman Dan Hauser, chair of the
committee, in opposition to SB 1257. Revised letter approved.
5.e. Water Neutralization Program: CUP Case No. 95-536: 303 South
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Halcyon Road; Dr. Michael Limberg. Approved.
5.f. Register of Checks. Approved. [
6.A. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION
APPROVAL TO REVISE THE APPROVED PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM AND VARIANCE
TO INCREASE THE AREA OF THE FACE OF THE POLE SIGN FROM 86 SOUARE
FEET TO 290 SOUARE FEET: AMENDED PLANNED SIGN PROGRAM CASE NO.
94114A, AND AMENDED VARIANCE CASE NO. 94-186: 525 TRAFFIC WAY:
REYNOLDS RITCHIE
Current Planner Spierling referred to the Staff Report dated
August 8, 1995, and said staff recommended that the city council
adopt a resolution denying the appeal of the Planning Commission
decisions.
After being assured that the hearing had been duly published and
all legal requirements met, Mayor Dougall declared the hearing
open and said all persons would be heard regarding the matter.
Speaking in support of the appeal were MR. AND MRS. RITCHIE; CARL
BOCKHAHN, 139 East Cherry Avenue; MR. AND MRS. MELVIN JOHNSON,
owners of the Vagabond Mobile Home Park, and PARIS JOHNSON, 535
Traffic Way. Their remarks included the following:
1. The service station owner has not considered the wishes of the
surrounding homeowners, some of whom have view problems and
others who have night-light problems with the sign.
2. The sign cannot be seen before exiting the freeway from the
north or south, and, therefore, a larger sign is not needed.
3. One of the station owners does not live in Arroyo Grande or
understand the concerns of the neighbors of the station.
4. The new larger sign will devalue the surrounding property.
5. A variance should not be issued because the sign was discussed
when the project was approved by the Planning Commission.
6. The Vagabond Mobile Home Park has not been protected enough by
the City. Too much light from the station is going into the park l
at night.
7. A larger sign, which has been dimmed to emanate less light,
would look dingy and washed out.
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Speaking against the appeal were HOURI WARTANIAN, 491 Garden
Street: RALPH MUSSLER of Mobil oil Company; TIM WORRELL of Vogue
Sign Company; WALT FRIESEN of NOW Construction, which handles
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imaging and standards for Mobil Corporation; and KHATCHIK
ACHADJIAN, owner of the Mobil Service station at 525 Traffic Way.
Using a demonstration sign in the darkened Council Chambers, Mr.
Worrell showed how the brightness in a sign could be reduced.
Mr. Achadjian gave Council Members copies of a report from
Private Investigator Tim Storton, who refuted statements that
newspapers cculd be read at 139 and 251 East Cherry by the light
emanating from the service station sign.
The remarks of the speakers opposing the appeal included the
following:
1. Whether the station owner lives in Arroyo Grande has no
relevance to the sign. Mr. Achadjian spends a great deal of time
in the city and gives his time and money to many causes here.
2. The new station has improved the looks of that part of Arroyo
Grande.
3. The larger sign will be seen by commuters, who will remember
that the station is there and return at a later date. Part of
the station's success will be based on the exposure it gets to
residents of adjacent communities and the rest of the Central
Coast.
4. The larger sign will be 25 percent less bright, and the
brightness can be reduced even further by 40 to 50 percent.
5. Bright lights at a service station increase the security and
comfort of the customers.
6. The Mobil station has one-third less signage than other
stations in the area. The larger sign is necessary for the
station to compete in the marketplace.
7. The new service station is an improvement over the last one
and has improved nearby property values.
8. All 28 employees at the new service station are residents of
the South County.
When no one further came forward to speak to the Council, Mayor
Dougall closed the hearing to the floor.
Mayor Dougall read a memorandum opposing the appeal from Mayor
Pro Tern Souza, who wrote the "the new station and larger sign is
a vast improvement over the former unit."
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Some of the Council Members said they had visited the Ritchies'
home to view the sign from their windows. Their comments were as
follows:
1. Many signs could be seen from the Ritchie home; the new Mobil [
sign is only one of them.
2. The station's canopy lights appear to be brighter than the new
sign. Some of the mobile homes in Vagabond Park are directly
impacted by the canopy lighting. The possibility of dimming
those lights should be examined, with security kept in mind.
3. The new sign will be smaller than many of the signs seen up
and down the freeway.
4. The new sign should be dimmed and made less bright, as was
demonstrated by Mr. Worrell of Vogue Signs.
5. One solution would be to allow the variance on the height of
the sign but not on the size. Freeway exposure would be gained
and the sign would not be at "eye level" for the Ritchies.
6. The light on East cherry is from the street lighting.
7. The new service station with the larger sign! will bring more
money into the community.
It was moved by Lady/Fuller (4-0-1, Lady, Fuller, Brandy and
Dougall voting aye, Souza absent) to partially uphold the appeal
by approving the amended variance and amended planned sign
program with conditions, including directing staff to work with
Vogue signs to obtain in the larger sign the least amount of
illumination per square foot as possible, and directing the
Police Department to reevaluate the canopy lighting at the
station. staff was directed to place the resolution on the
Consent Agenda of August 22, 1995.
6.B. PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVAL OF A
FIVE UNIT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT: TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 2197:
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 95-534 (P.U.D. PERMIT) AND
ASSOCIATED ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW: 260 SPRUCE STREET: VIT.TA CALLE
HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION l
Mayor Dougall said he may have a conflict of interest in this
matter and left the room. Council Member Brandy presided.
Current Planner spierling referred to the August 8, 1995, staff <;
report and said staff recommended that the city Council support
the Planning Commission decision and adopt the resolution denying
the appeal. He said the appellants stated that if the project is
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to be built, the plan should be reversed.
After being assured that the hearing had been duly published and
all legal requirements met, Council Member Brandy declared the
hearing open and said all persons would be heard regarding the
matter.
Speaking in favor of the appeal were DIANA DUQUESNE of 286 Spruce
Street; MARYLEE IVERSON, who owns property at 282 Spruce Street,
and DELORES CARLSON, who owns property at 278 Spruce Street.
Points made by the speakers included the following:
1. The new Planned unit Development looks directly into the yards
and windows of the existing homes creating a lack of privacy.
2. Property values will be reduced by the current design of the
P.U.D.
3. There is a lack of adequate on-street parking.
4. Rear setbacks are not adequate.
5. The Fire Department would have access to both units if the
driveways backed up to existing fences. An approved maintenance
agreement for fire access is necessary.
6. If the project is approved (and the appeal denied) the public
should be informed where the boundary fences will be and if the
existing fences will be used.
7. Sunlight to the existing homes will be blocked by the new
units.
Speaking against the appeal were MARK GAMMON of RMO Architects
and RICHARD DALE ARMSTRONG, applicant. Their remarks included
the following:
1. The present design of the project is the best way to go.
2. The developer has provided almost double the number of parking
spaces (23 plus two on-street) that the City requires for the .
five units. Parking is on the northside of the units to reduce
noise for adjacent neighbors.
3 . The density of the five units is less than the surrounding
complexes.
4. Sunlight will not be blocked because the new P.U.D. is north
of the existing complex.
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5. There are only three windows that are at the minimum seven
foot setback looking into the adjacent property, and not a whole
wing of units.
When no one further carne forward to speak, Council Member Brandy [
closed the hearing to the floor;
Council Members discussed the appeal and questioned staff with
regard to the original design of the project. Mr. Spierling said
the original design had only four units with larger setbacks, and
the driveway to the south. He noted that the driveway would
impact an oak tree. He said if the current design were reversed,
as the appellants are requesting, the oak tree still will
probably have to be removed.
Council Members, staff and Mr. Armstrong discussed implications
on setback size if the design were reversed. It was noted that
there are no minimum setbacks on P.U.D. projects. The privacy
issue was addressed, as was mitigation of the oak tree.
The City Attorney said if the applicant is willing to redesign
the project, the matter would be continued and referred back to
the Planning Commission, where the final decision would be made.
He said, otherwise the applicant is entitled to have a final
answer from the Council. Council Member Brandy asked if staff
and the Planning Commission could "fast-track" the project if it
were to be redesigned, and staff said yes.
Mr. Armstrong said he would be willing to accept the continuance.
It was moved by FUller/Lady (3-0-2, Fuller, Lady and Brandy
voting aye and Souza and Dougall absent) to continue the matter
to give the applicant time to redesign the project, then refer it
to the Planning Commission, and direct staff to "fast-track" the
processing of the submitted project.
Mayor Dougall returned to the dais.
The Council recessed at 9:50 p.m. for five minutes.
6.C. CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING - APPEAL OF PLANNING COMMISSION
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL IN THREE CATEGORIES: (1) ZONING ISSUE: (2) t
CONDITIONS RELATED TO FEES FOR DRAINAGE. FIRE DEPARTMENT. TRAFFIC
SIGNAL. TRAFFIC IMPACT AND WATER NEUTRALIZATION. AND (3) GENERAL
TEXT CLARIFICATIONS: VESTING TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP CASE NO. 95-524
AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CASE NO. 95-537: 1650 GRAND AVENUE:
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THE VONS COMPANIES. INC.
Mayor Dougall said the Council had three subjects to deal with on
this appeal. He thanked the Vons companies representatives for
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working diligently with the City. He also praised City staff for
its work on the staff report. He said this project is the first
under the city's new "business friendly" banner.
Planning Director Liberto-Blanck said staff had been meeting with
the appellants and many of the disputed issues had been resolved.
She said the three unresolved issues are:
1. Future permitted uses in Building A with only issuance of a
business license.
2. waiving of the drainage fee of $23,968 due to the offsite
drainage improvements that are being made.
3. Additional credit being provided against the traffic impact
fee for improvements the city has requested that Vons make on
Courtland Street and Oak Park Boulevard. She said alternately
Vons representatives have indicated that they prefer not to make
improvements on Courtland and not get the credit back.
The Planning Director said that concerning Parcel Map Conditions
of Approval No. 11, there had been a change to the appellant's
modification that would now read:
"Concurrent with recordation of the parcel map, the applicant
shall record CC&R's and easements that, at a minimum, regulate
joint parking, drainage, access and maintenance. The City
Attorney shall review and approve CC&R's and easements with
respect to these specific items."
Ms. Liberto-Blanck said staff had recommended that the following
language be added to the end of the appellant's suggested
wording:
"Those provisions required by the city as part of the approval
process may not be amended or otherwise changed without prior
written consent of the city."
Public Works Director Wallace addressed the Council on drainage
fee issues regarding Courtland street and Oak Park Boulevard. He
said there is a requirement for improving Oak Park Boulevard
across the frontage of the property, widening the roadway by
approximately 12 feet and incorporating a sidewalk. He said the
city of Grover Beach had requested that Arroyo Grande require
Vons to continue to widen the street up to Brighton Avenue to
make a more uniform street (at the cost of $90,000 to $95,000).
He said the applicant would not object to that suggestion as long
as the work would be credited to the traffic impact fees it pays
to Arroyo Grande. He recommended that the Oak Park Boulevard
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transition remain undefined because the City does not know what
the transition will look like until design information is
received from Vons, and discussions are held with the City of
Grover Beach concerning the annexing of the small widened strip r
to Grover Beach so Arroyo Grande will not have to maintain it.
Mr. Wallace said the second issue has to do with Courtland Street
and a condition requiring a sidewalk, curb and gutter and some
paving of the roadway. He said the applicant wants credit to the
traffic impact fees for the $24,000 cost. He recommended that
the City require the improvement of at least the concrete
sidewalk to be made at the appropriate grade so curbs and gutters
could be constructed at a later time.
The Public Works Director said the final issue was drainage. He
explained the applicant had requested some time ago to make some
off-site improvements rather than construct the on-site retention
basins and underground water storage facilities. He said the
cost difference, according to Vons' engineer, is $55,000, and
therefore Vons wishes the City to waive drainage fees of $24,000.
He recommended against this because, (1 ) the City had already
provided the facilities to accommodate the Vons drainage, ( 2 )
Vons had received significant benefit by not having to maintain
the on-site facilities in perpetuity, and (3) Vons has
approximately 20,000 square feet more area to be developed.
Council Member Fuller asked what off-site improvements would be
made by Vons. Mr. Wallace said, (1 ) the Poplar street basin
would be lined for higher capacity, and (2) the installation of
a bleeder line for the Soto Basins down various streets to
discharge to a storm drain system eventually going to Arroyo
Grande Creek and allowing the City to drain the basins. He said
this would be of mutual benefit to the City and Vons, which would
not have to construct and maintain basins on its property.
After being assured that the hearing had been duly published and
all legal requirements met, Mayor Dougall declared the hearing
open and said all persons would be heard regarding the matter.
Speaking in favor of the appeal were TOM COURTNEY of Courtney
Architects, representative of Oak Park Center; TOM WALLEN of the
Vons companies; JOHN BARTLETT of Halferty Development Company; l
and DAN LLOYD of Engineering Development Associates, project
engineer.
Mr. Courtney thanked the City for its cooperation in working out ' ,
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the issues of this project. He said it boiled down to two
issues, the drainage and Courtland Street.
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Mr. Lloyd used the overhead projector to illustrate his talk. He
said Vons was asking to construct only the concrete sidewalk at
( ~ the appropriate grade, but not construct the curb and gutter and
not relocate the utilities. He asked the City to credit the costs
of anything required beyond the sidewalk to the traffic impact
fees.
The project engineer said Vons agreed with offsite drainage
improvements, but there is some benefit to be gained by the city.
He said the $123,000 cost for constructing the off site drainage
improvements should be credited to fees charged by the city. He
answered questions of Council concerning the equity of the trade-
off.
He said the second issue was Oak Park Boulevard improvements, and
stated that the condition requiring an approved transition at the
Vons frontage line does not mean widening the street all the way
across the Peace Lutheran Church property and homes to Brighton
Avenue. He said that was not Vons' responsibility, and the City
of Grover Beach should be involved in solving the problem.
Ms. Carmichael, owner of property across Grand Avenue from the
Vons project, asked the Council if the Poplar Basin potential
would be used up by Vons, how this would affect future
development, and if the City would in the future be able to
provide more drainage.
DON HILLYARD, president of Peace l.utheran Church congregation,
said the church does not want a ~arge transition at the church
parking lot. He said the cities and Vons should get together and
make three to four lanes for good traffic flow on Oak Park
Boulevard.
Mr. Bartlett said Vons is looking for economic fairness and
feasibility, and he reaffirmed what Mr. Lloyd told the Council.
Mr. Wallen addressed the uses relative to the zoning of the
project. He said it is not Vons' intent to go though an
immediate conversion of the use of the building and the proposed
development. He said the goal was to get a confirmation of Vons'
ability to convert the building to a different use or recycled
use in the future if that is required. He said some proposed
uses had been submitted.
When no one further came forward to speak, Mayor Dougall closed
the hearing to the floor.
The Council began consideration of the appeal and reached the
following decisions on zoning Issues, Conditions Related to Fees
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and General Text Clarifications as listed in the August 8, 1995,
Staff Report prepared by the Planning Director:
1. CUP Condition of ADproval No.6 - Planning Department [
Council consensus to approve staff recommendation.
2. CUP Conditions of ApQroval 18 and 45 - Public Works Department
Mayor Dougall and Council Members Fuller and Lady agreed to
approve the Appellant's request.
3 . CUP Condition of Approval No. 42; Tentative Parcel Map
Condition of Approval No. 22: and Mitigation Measure No. 29-Fire
Department
Council consensus to approve staff recommendation.
4. CUP Conditions of ApQroval 28 and 28a - Public Works
Department and Planning Department
Council consensus to approve staff recommendation.
5. CUP Condition No's 33, 34, 35 and 36; Parcel Map Conditions
13. 14, 15 and 16; Mitigation Measure 26-Public Works Department
Council consensus to approve staff recommendation, and work with
the City of Grover Beach on the transition.
6. Mitigation Measure No. l6-Water Neutralization Program-Public
Works Department
Council'consensus to approve staff recommendation.
7. CUP Condition of Approval 15g; Mitigation Measure No. 9-public
Works Department and Planning Department
Council consensus to approve staff recommendation.
8. CUP Condition of Approval 19; Parcel MaD Condition of Approval
17-Planning Department and Public Works Department
Council consensus to approve staff recommendation.
9. Parcel Map Condition of Approval No. 11
Council consensus to approve staff recommendation.
10. CUP Condition of Approval No. 33; Parcel Map Condition of
Approval No. 13 and Mitigation Measure No. 8
Council consensus to approve the appellant's request. I
11. Mitigation Measure No. 11-Planning Department I
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Council consensus to approve staff recommendation. l.
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12. Additional Issue
Council consensus to approve staff recommendations on time frames
for collecting fees on the Building Tax, the School Fee, the
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Traffic Signal and Traffic Impact Fees and the Sewer and Water
r." Fees.
f city Attorney Lyon said staff should review the resolution
I partially upholding the appeal before the council votes on the
matter.
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At 11:05 p.m. Mayor Dougall said there would be a five-minute
recess, while staff reviewed the resolution.
7.A. CLARIFICATION OF CREDIT FOR BRISCO ROAD INTERCHANGE TRAFFIC
ANALYSIS STUDY
City Manager Hunt said on March 28, 1995, the city council agreed
to provide credit to Ottse for the portion of the traffic
analysis study on the Brisco Road Interchange, which provides a
citywide benefit and does not specifically benefit or apply to
the 44-acre commercial site. He said the City drew up an
agreement and sent it for Ottse's approval. He said on July 12,
1995, the representative of ottse returned the letter to the city
indicating the agreement should provide for 100 percent credit,
not 10 percent.
Mr. Hunt recommended that the Council ( 1 ) agree to provide 10
percent credit, as the current draft agreement specifies, ( 2 )
provide a percentage of credit to the developer based on certain
events, or (3) provide 100 percent credit on the future traffic
impact fee with no performance stipulation.
Council Members discussed the alternatives, and chose a revised
version of No. 2, as follows:
40 percent credit will be provided when a development application
on the 44 acres is submitted to the City for review and approval;
50 percent credit will be provided when entitlements (i.e., City
Council approval of development applications) are received on the
44 acre commercial site; and
100 percent credit will be provided when a building permit is
r issued on the first phase of development on the 44 acre
commercial site.
8.A. DESIGNATION OF VOTING pELEGATE FOR LEAGUE ANNUAL CONFERENCE
\ Mr. Hunt said to expedite the conduct of business at the League
"'-..-' of California cities annual conference business meeting, the city
Council should designate a voting representative and an alternate
who will be present.
Council Members decided that -Mayor Dougall and Mayor Pro Tern
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Souza would be delegates and Council Member Brandy would be
alternate to the conference, which will be held in San Francisco
October 22 to 24, 1995. [
B.B. SCHEDULING OF JOINT CITY COUNCIL AND PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING
Mr. Hunt said it was the staff recommendation that the City
Council schedule the next joint meeting with the Planning
Commission for October 17 or 31, 1995.
Council Members discussed the matter and approved October 17,
1995, as date of the joint meeting.
9.A. WRITTEN COMMUNICATIONS
None.
10. ORAL COMMUNICATIONS
Council Member Lady praised the Senior Advisory Commission for
bringing to the Council's attention State Assembly and Senate
bills regarding rent control in cities.
6. C. VONS' APPEAL CONTINUED FROM EARLIER IN THE MEETING
Council Member Brandy pointed out the late hour and the pressure
being put on staff to revise the resolution so the Council could
vote on it. He suggested that the appeal be continued to the
next Council meeting. Other Council Members agreed.
It was moved by Brandy/Lady, and the motion passed unanimously to
partially uphold the appeal and bring the matter back to the
August 22, 1995, meeting Consent Agenda for the Council vote.
11. CLOSED SESSION
The Council adjourned at 11:55 p.m. to a Closed Session on the
following:
(a) Conference with Legal Counsel:
Anticipated Litigation: Government Code Section 94956.9(b)i
Significant Exposure to Litigation Involving Two Potential Cases
(b) Conference with Labor Negotiator: Gov. Code Sec. 54957.6
Agency Negotiator: Rick TerBorch, Police Chief
Represented Units: Service Employees' l
International Union Local
817i and Arroyo Grande
, Police Officers' Assn.
12. ADJOURNMENT.
The Council reconvened at 12:19 a.m. and immediately adjourned on
the unanimously approved motion of Brandy/Lady.
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NANCY A. VIS, CITY CLERK
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